[Patrick]

This is weird, look at that countdown from the other night 'The greatest noughtie TV shows' or whatever the **** it was called.
They didnt include BB at all but took the piss out of it.

Im making a video on youtube about the Noughties, and went on Google Images.

Type in 'The Noughties' and look at the first bloody picture that comes up.

Yet that show seems to think BB isnt the greatest show of the decade.

[Tellymix]

Brilliant news. It really is the best show of the 00's!

[Tom]

For a start its the BB8 logo so its hardly anything to be proud of

And it was an article written in January 2008 when Big Brother was in a MUCH stronger position than it is now

[Patrick]

Originally Posted by Tom

For a start its the BB8 logo so its hardly anything to be proud of

And it was an article written in January 2008 when Big Brother was in a MUCH stronger position than it is now

Lmao thats what I was thinking, like why the hell did they use the BB8 logo.

Well anyway if it was written in January 08 then it still means BB went through 9 series that got the nation talking.
So what if BB10 was a fail, its still just one series compared to the other 9.

It still is the show of the decade as it made headlines and it started when the decade started and everyone has heard of it.

[Brad.]

Top Gear is way better than BB

[arista]

Originally Posted by Brad.

Top Gear is way better than BB

Top Gear is Not

The BBC Riggs which public go into the Studio.


So you have to bring a Female with You.

Now that Stinks.



Women would go anyway,
but the Stupid BBC Riggs it so more women are there than should be.

[Patrick]

Originally Posted by Brad.

Top Gear is way better than BB

Bradley Branning



sorry about the branning part just needed a last name to add an effect lmao

[BB11UK]

People will never credit BB for creating the biggest TV genre of The Noughties.

Too many shows have taken the concept and become more popular with the press and public.

[Gavin]

I'm afraid this article is a load of rubbish as there's at least 5 other programmes which have been better than Big Brother this decade. Off the top of my head: Top Gear, Lost, Criminal Justice, The Sopranos, The Office...

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Gavin

I'm afraid this article is a load of rubbish as there's at least 5 other programmes which have been better than Big Brother this decade. Off the top of my head: Top Gear, Lost, Criminal Justice, The Sopranos, The Office...

Those shows aren't that influential though

BB has had huge impact on TV and culture

[Gavin]

Originally Posted by Tom

Those shows aren't that influential though

BB has had huge impact on TV and culture

Influence shouldn't be the only factor in deciding what the greatest show in the decade is.

Anyway, I don't think it's been that influential. In what way has it had a huge impact on TV and culture?

It's had a little impact, but not huge...

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Gavin

Influence shouldn't be the only factor in deciding what the greatest show in the decade is.

Anyway, I don't think it's been that influential. In what way has it had a huge impact on TV and culture?

It's had a little impact, but not huge...

BB started the reality TV boom and its the first show where every single decision was made by the public which lead on to other shows.

No TV shows had spin off shows before Big Brother (in the BBLB sense, not Celebrity BB sense).

Its also tackled a few taboos through controversial housemates which no shows have done before.

It was a defining format and a lot of other shows have copied elements from it such as I'm a Celebrity, Fame Academy, Love Island, Back to Reality, The Farm, Hells Kitchen etc. Its also been used as a model to create interest in shows like X Factor and The Apprentice.

It was one of the very first show to use celebrities as the contestants.

We had no z list celebrity culture before Big Brother which eventually created a huge interest in actual celebrities. There was a bit of interest before but not to todays extent.

[Gavin]

Originally Posted by Tom

BB started the reality TV boom and its the first show where every single decision was made by the public which lead on to other shows.

Popstars began in New Zealand in early 1999, before Big Brother even started in Holland. A core aspect of Popstars was the fact that viewers could vote.

Big Brother just took the same aspect and made sure that every single decision was made by the public. It did not make up the concept of reality TV show phone voting. That had already been done. Big Brother itself is largley influenced by The Real World which began in 1992.

No TV shows had spin off shows before Big Brother (in the BBLB sense, not Celebrity BB sense).

Actually that's incorrect. Spin offs have been around for years. In 1960, a programme called the Andy Griffiths Show began which is a spin-off of The Danny Thomas Show. Check it out on Google if you don't believe me.

Frasier is a spin-off of Cheers. Beverly Hills 90210 spined off to Melrose Place. All long before BB.

It was a defining format and a lot of other shows have copied elements from it such as I'm a Celebrity, Fame Academy, Love Island, Back to Reality, The Farm, Hells Kitchen etc. Its also been used as a model to create interest in shows like X Factor and The Apprentice.

Fame Academy is more influenced by Popstars. Hell's Kitchen, also, I don't think was heavily influenced by Big Brother.

X Factor is just an evolution of Pop Idol which itself was an evolution of Popstars. I disagree about The Apprentice, there's no phone voting and there's little seen of the contestants inside the house. Most of it is based around the business tasks. It's a very loose link to Big Brother.

The others, I agree were influenced a lot by Big Brother. But it's no different from a drama being influenced by another drama which was made years ago. You could argue that EastEnders and all these other soaps are influenced from Corrie, which itself was influenced from radio soap The Guilding Light.

It was one of the very first show to use celebrities as the contestants.

Not true. Celebrity Jeopardy had been running on TV since 1996.

We had no z list celebrity culture before Big Brother which eventually created a huge interest in actual celebrities. There was a bit of interest before but not to todays extent.

The Z list celebrity culture was influenced by BB, indeed. But I think the Internet and the rise of trashy magazines arguably had a bigger part in that.

[ILoveTRW]

Originally Posted by Tom

Its also tackled a few taboos through controversial housemates which no shows have done before.

wrong, the real world had:
a gay guy in 1992
a pregnant women wondering whether of not to have an abortion in 1993
a person dying from aids in 1994
a threesome in 1996
a women getting smacked in the face by a guy because she called him a homo in 1998
and a women who was an alacholic and nearly commited suicide on the show in 1999

[Patrick]

Gavin its not about being BETTER than Big Brother, its about whats impacted on us this decade.

And im quite sure Top Gear and the Office have ever been on the front page of Newspapers for Race Rows, Pool Orgys, Fight Nights etc

[Barbie]

People seem to put shame on BB, It got really big in the early years, then it became something you didnt talk about much, more of a secret pleasure that you knew most were watching
But it started of reality TV massively and has been on every year for a decade, if its not a show to be proud of then what is?

[Redmond]

Big Brother is by far the most influential show of the decade. It kickstarted the reality tv genre, for better or for worse. It also impacted scripted TV. To deny BB's influence is to totally underestimate it's impact.

[Patrick]

Originally Posted by Redmond

Big Brother is by far the most influential show of the decade. It kickstarted the reality tv genre, for better or for worse. It also impacted scripted TV. To deny BB's influence is to totally underestimate it's impact.

this

It annoyes me that people say IAC or BGT or the Apperentance, is better than BB when clearly, they wouldnt be here without BB.

[Gavin]

Originally Posted by Redmond

Big Brother is by far the most influential show of the decade. It kickstarted the reality tv genre, for better or for worse. It also impacted scripted TV. To deny BB's influence is to totally underestimate it's impact.

It helped kickstart the reality TV genre, but was certainly not alone in doing so. Popstars had been around before BB.

It's not really impacted on scripted TV much, I don't know where you get that link from.

The people who keep saying that Big Brother's a huge influential show are just fans of the show. Ask people on the street which one's been the most influential show, and they probably wouldn't answer BB... they probably wouldn't say anything actually.

I'm not saying BB's not been influential, it has been... but it's been exaggerated on here.

[Patrick]

Well said Tom and Barbie.