[Ghostinthehouse]

Sisqo was trying to talk Sov round for the rest of the house (remember trying to con her with his 'play your battles' talk) but at the same time was saying how Sov wasn't a 'team player' to the rest of them in the bedroom and on the red chairs. Sisqo is a two faced dick.

He would pretend to Sov at the smoking area that he agreed with her then sat with Dane saying 'yeah bro, she is not on the team'.

And Sisqo said that Sov was 'making a big deal out of nothing man' about her not wanting to wear a dress (Sisqo said that to Jonas behind Sov's back) and then he cries his eyes out on the floor because of the mankini task.

Get Sisqo out.

[Stacey.]

Sisqo isnt playing any game, They were friends.
stop trying to turn people against housemates with these silly threads...
Likee, seriously man!

[Niamh.]

There's a big difference between wearing a dress and wearing mankini!! and Sisko told Sov to her face that he thought she was singling herself out from the group

[Ghostinthehouse]

Some of you Sov fans have been fooled just like Sov was. LOL.

Sisqo had no respect for a white woman hip hop singer - and he made that clear.

He was playing both sides.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ghostinthehouse

Some of you Sov fans have been fooled just like Sov was. LOL.

Sisqo had no respect for a white woman hip hop singer - and he made that clear.

He was playing both sides.

I'm not a Sov fan at all. I don't really care what his or any others HMs taste in music is. But just out of curousity how did he make that clear?

[Stacey.]

Originally Posted by Ghostinthehouse

Some of you Sov fans have been fooled just like Sov was. LOL.

Sisqo had no respect for a white woman hip hop singer - and he made that clear.

He was playing both sides.

You wont change many peoples minds with your pathetic little reasons

[Stephanie]

he was being really 2faced after she got evicted.

[Jordan.]

Jonas did worse tbh he contributed to getting her up even though they were friends.

[Jords]

Sisqo isnt that bad, just a bit boring, we had Coolio last year who was an ace housemate.

But Basshunter played Sov.

[Ghostinthehouse]

Originally Posted by Stephanie

he was being really 2faced after she got evicted.

You're right, loads of people have noticed that Sisqo is two faced about Sov, and Sisqo is two faced to other HM too, especially towards Nichola.

[Jords]

I understand where all the noms for Sisqo thinking hes all it are from now, see him in the DR being jelous that people thought Alex is muscly and he says he can do what Alex can?

Gone down in my estimations after that silly rant.

[tintedshadow]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

There's a big difference between wearing a dress and wearing mankini!! and Sisko told Sov to her face that he thought she was singling herself out from the group

there really isnt.sovereign kicked up a fuss because she's used to dressing a certain way,since the age of 8 or something,so it was a big deal for her,sisqo had his issues with his outfit,but to both their credits they both stuck it out..
dane and stephan on the other hand....

dont personally see sisqo being two faced though,he's been a good friend to sovereign thats not to say he's not allowed to disagree with her actions. he's decent enough i guess

[tintedshadow]

Originally Posted by Jords

I understand where all the noms for Sisqo thinking hes all it are from now, see him in the DR being jelous that people thought Alex is muscly and he says he can do what Alex can?

Gone down in my estimations after that silly rant.

well i think he just feels like he gets overlooked,same as the countdown task where somehow heidi and alex were deemed more suitable than sisqo. not saying he's smarter but he wasnt even considered which dented his ego a little..

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by tintedshadow

well i think he just feels like he gets overlooked,same as the countdown task where somehow heidi and alex were deemed more suitable than sisqo. not saying he's smarter but he wasnt even considered which dented his ego a little..

Agreed. He has little man syndrome.

Even though he's not little everywhere *wink*

[Suguler]

I think Sov can be a team player in the right environment, but its clear that had she tried to fit in, the team in the house, ruled by Vinnie, would choke the life out of her.

Had she followed Sisqo's advice she might have been able to stay in the house but would have been turned into a soulless drone by following Vinnie's gang. She would also have been branded fake and been ridiculed.

Sisqo wants to win (and I think saw Sov as the only person in the house who could take on Vinnie), whereas Sov felt she would rather keep her dignity than become one of Vinnie's pets.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Suguler

I think Sov can be a team player in the right environment, but its clear that had she tried to fit in, the team in the house, ruled by Vinnie, would choke the life out of her.

Had she followed Sisqo's advice she might have been able to stay in the house but would have been turned into a soulless drone by following Vinnie's gang. She would also have been branded fake and been ridiculed.

Sisqo wants to win (and I think saw Sov as the only person in the house who could take on Vinnie), whereas Sov felt she would rather keep her dignity than become one of Vinnie's pets.

Funny, I don't remember her ever taking on Vinnie. You fans keep trying to portray her as a strong warrior. In truth, she was a whiney immature brat with no communication skills. Vinnie would have wiped the floor with her if she had actually confronted him with her mouth.

She didn't play for the team because she was LAZY. She practically admitted that when she left. Saying she wasn't gonna clean toilets or dishes. Not because of Vinnie, because she just wasn't. No better reason than that. Stop making up your own noble excuses.

[Suguler]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Funny, I don't remember her ever taking on Vinnie. You fans keep trying to portray her as a strong warrior. In truth, she was a whiney immature brat with no communication skills. Vinnie would have wiped the floor with her if she had actually confronted him with her mouth.

She didn't play for the team because she was LAZY. She practically admitted that when she left. Saying she wasn't gonna clean toilets or dishes. Not because of Vinnie, because she just wasn't. No better reason than that. Stop making up your own noble excuses.

Why would anyone want to play for a team where the "leader" controls every aspect of your existence?
The team in that house is one where everyone surrenders their identity to Vinnie, and where dissent and expression are crushed.

Laziness is something that we have seen in many HMs, Sov is hardly unique in this regard.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by Suguler

Why would anyone want to play for a team where the "leader" controls every aspect of your existence?
The team in that house is one where everyone surrenders their identity to Vinnie, and where dissent and expression are crushed.

Laziness is something that we have seen in many HMs, Sov is hardly unique in this regard.

Didnt hear Sov making a big thing out of Vinnie trying to control her, wierd that, her view is quite different from her loyal army of fans. Maybe they see things the way they want to.

Wow when some of them leave school and venture out into the big nasty world they aint half in for a reality check.

[BB_Eye]

I think you can only call Sisqo a backstabber if you're looking at the dynamic of the house in completely black & white terms. Sov's faults were not something simply imagined by Vinnie and the others. She was sulky and she did behave selfishly and was probably a nightmare to be around. This isn't to say Vinnie isn't using Sov's faults in a ruthless campaign to eliminate the competition from the house, because this is true. But if Sisqo's comments tell us anything, then it tells us that even the most placid person can get annoyed by that sort of behaviour.

[tintedshadow]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Didnt hear Sov making a big thing out of Vinnie trying to control her, wierd that, her view is quite different from her loyal army of fans. Maybe they see things the way they want to.

Wow when some of them leave school and venture out into the big nasty world they aint half in for a reality check.

then you clearly wernt playing attention as she took issue with being patronised and targeted by the mr patato head of the house.. hence why she got singled out,because she made her voice heard and this wasnt in line with vinnie's commandments.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by tintedshadow

then you clearly wernt playing attention as she took issue with being patronised and targeted by the mr patato head of the house.. hence why she got singled out,because she made her voice heard and this wasnt in line with vinnie's commandments.

And yet Vinnie was the one trying to help her, was the one who gave her his egg not only gave it but also cooked it for her.

Your clearly watching a different program. Or is it just to empathise with Sov because of her age and you dont like older people in authority?

[BBUK4LYFE]

Originally Posted by Ghostinthehouse

Some of you Sov fans have been fooled just like Sov was. LOL.

Sisqo had no respect for a white woman hip hop singer - and he made that clear.

He was playing both sides.

you aren't very smart, that statement is fair, no?

[tintedshadow]

Originally Posted by Shasown

And yet Vinnie was the one trying to help her, was the one who gave her his egg not only gave it but also cooked it for her.

Your clearly watching a different program. Or is it just to empathise with Sov because of her age and you dont like older people in authority?

assume all you want little lady i happen to see both sides of vinnie, trying to help sovereign only to talk behind her back,slate her at any given moment and rip chunks out of her,in lamens terms a forty something old man took it upon himself to target a twenty four year old woman,that may work fine in your little world but not with me..

[Zippy]

Sisqo tolerated Sov more than the others because he got to chat with her more while smoking. But towards the end even he could see her glaring faults and realised she was casting a dark cloud over the house with her stubborn attitude.

She was a cancer that needed to be removed.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Funny, I don't remember her ever taking on Vinnie. You fans keep trying to portray her as a strong warrior. In truth, she was a whiney immature brat with no communication skills. Vinnie would have wiped the floor with her if she had actually confronted him with her mouth.

She didn't play for the team because she was LAZY. She practically admitted that when she left. Saying she wasn't gonna clean toilets or dishes. Not because of Vinnie, because she just wasn't. No better reason than that. Stop making up your own noble excuses.

Sensible assessment, finally. Sov says she was totally herself, trouble is "herself" was a selfish, uncooperative, leeching, hypocrital whiny immature brat. She showed herself up big time in the house, and her only audience now will be those who share her (cough!) views on life, thankfully and hopefully a minority of young people.

The same people who want to say and do whatever they like, irrespective of how disruptive, insulting or uncooperative they are or how adversely they affect the rights of others, are the same people who run to the authorities/police to complain about any perceived infringements of THEIR so called "rights". They are ignorant and hypocritical, and are fortunate to live in a country that tolerates such attitudes. Its about time that lowlifes who screech about THEIR rights realise that such rights come with a price tag, i.e they accept responsibilities for their actions.