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Patrick · 20-02-2010, 12:08 AM

Oh my god, Look at this:

You have a dead family member/partner lieing on the ground, in pain dieing, head busted, his life has ended.

And you dont get to say your Final Goodbyes to him because some dick head of a police man thinks its cool to hold people back?

This really bothered me, not for the Soap because it ient real.
But the thought of someone dieing and you dont even get to say Bye to them because the Police hold you back for some pointless reason.

Okay fair enough if he was murdered, they would need finger prints and stuff.

But everyone saw him fall off the Queen Vic Roof, so why cant they just go and say bye to him?

Why do Police Men do that?
Does anyone else agree its wrong and not fair?

I mean your loved one could be suffering, knowing their life is about to end in a matter of seconds as they slowly die.
And your waiting for your family member to run up to you knowing they are there but then the Police dont allow them?

Well Im sorry but if that was my friend/family member I would hit the Police Man I wouldnt care if he arrested me for a bit for assaulting the bellend, Going to jail for a few months isnt as big a deal as not getting to say goodbye to someone you've knowen for years.

Jack_ · 20-02-2010, 12:11 AM

It's wrong yes, I'd imagine they do it in real life but not to the extent that it happens in soaps/dramas.

It's all about keeping people safe I think. Sounds stupid but I think that's the reason.

Patrick · 20-02-2010, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack_

It's wrong yes, I'd imagine they do it in real life but not to the extent that it happens in soaps/dramas.

It's all about keeping people safe I think. Sounds stupid but I think that's the reason.

Oh right,
Safe from what?

Wildcat! · 20-02-2010, 12:19 AM

I think when someone suffers trauma., in a fall or accident, no one is supposed yto touch them apart from paramedics. Because they might injure them further. Thats why they carry you carefully, and imobilise you to avoid doing any further damage.

Jack_ · 20-02-2010, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Patrick

Oh right,
Safe from what?

I think the below post sums it up. That and death like that can be a traumatic thing, they need the witnesses to stay calm so they don't hurt themselves I guess.

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Originally Posted by Wildcat!

I think when someone suffers trauma., in a fall or accident, no one is supposed yto touch them apart from paramedics. Because they might injure them further. Thats why they carry you carefully, and imobilise you to avoid doing any further damage.

Arneldo · 20-02-2010, 12:22 AM

It is safer not to touch, move a person after they have suffered a fall. It is best, if possible, to wait until paramedics arrive on the scene.

Patrick · 20-02-2010, 12:24 AM

Oh right, Thanks guys.

It looked like he was pretty much dead anyway so no Doctors could fix him now, so even if you did make it worst it wouldnt make a diffrence because he would die anyway.

_Seth · 20-02-2010, 12:56 AM

I hope the dude who was holding the camera at 1:18 is fired. Look how ****ing jerky it was! It totally ruined the atmosphere.

Firewire · 20-02-2010, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Phlip

I hope the dude who was holding the camera at 1:18 is fired. Look how ****ing jerky it was! It totally ruined the atmosphere.

It was a LIVE episode. These things happen. There was obviously going to be some mistakes.

Shasown · 20-02-2010, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Patrick

Oh right, Thanks guys.

It looked like he was pretty much dead anyway so no Doctors could fix him now, so even if you did make it worst it wouldnt make a diffrence because he would die anyway.

The human body is an amazing piece of natural engineering, it can survive some serious heavy duty traumas. Even when a body appears to be dead life can still be there.

Doctors are the only people legally able to declare a person dead. Paramedics etc will move a body, however they will move it in a certain way, to prevent further damage to the head and spine, in case life still does exist. Nothing worse than a well intentioned relative turning someone over with some sort of spinal or head injury and actually killing them. The only time casualties should be moved is if there is a greater threat to them for example imminent fire, or falling masonery.

The Police will prevent people from approaching casualties to prevent them making any situation worse and to retain evidence at the scene, It also allows other emergency services being able to work in the area of the casualty unhindered.

The copper on the ground isnt allowed to decide the person is dead and has to follow guidelines and rules, basically even if there is very little chance that Bradley survived the fall, plod still has to treat the situation as if he is badly injured until someone who can make the call says he is dead.

Scarlett. · 20-02-2010, 01:41 AM

Aside from all the reasons above, the police would have needed to investigate, it would have been a possible crime scene and other people contaminate crime scenes

EDIT: wait...the same was said above...I need sleep xD

Patrick · 20-02-2010, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Shasown

The human body is an amazing piece of natural engineering, it can survive some serious heavy duty traumas. Even when a body appears to be dead life can still be there.

Doctors are the only people legally able to declare a person dead. Paramedics etc will move a body, however they will move it in a certain way, to prevent further damage to the head and spine, in case life still does exist. Nothing worse than a well intentioned relative turning someone over with some sort of spinal or head injury and actually killing them. The only time casualties should be moved is if there is a greater threat to them for example imminent fire, or falling masonery.

The Police will prevent people from approaching casualties to prevent them making any situation worse and to retain evidence at the scene, It also allows other emergency services being able to work in the area of the casualty unhindered.

The copper on the ground isnt allowed to decide the person is dead and has to follow guidelines and rules, basically even if there is very little chance that Bradley survived the fall, plod still has to treat the situation as if he is badly injured until someone who can make the call says he is dead.

Well explained

I understand it now, Thanks.

_Seth · 20-02-2010, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Jonathan.

It was a LIVE episode. These things happen. There was obviously going to be some mistakes.

There was no excuse for that. What where the odds of him ****zing out of all times? They could have had a tripod.

Patrick · 20-02-2010, 03:08 AM

Also found out somthing the police cant do, apperantly people are complaining about how The Police man killed Bradley.

If that happened in Real Life, the copper would not of been allowed up to the roof with the suspect.

_Seth · 20-02-2010, 03:11 AM

The cop didn't push him did he? And yeah no cop would have followed him.

Patrick · 20-02-2010, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Phlip

The cop didn't push him did he? And yeah no cop would have followed him.

Nope he didnt push him, Bradley pushed himself of the vic roof, you can see his hands pushing against somthing.

But the Police Man comes closer to him and 'startles' him.

_Seth · 20-02-2010, 03:33 AM

The stunt man jumped, not Bradley.

XD

*mazedsalv** · 20-02-2010, 08:46 AM

Thats what I was thinking... they were holding his own Dad back... its his son, surely they could let him go to go to his aid!!

*mazedsalv** · 20-02-2010, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Phlip

I hope the dude who was holding the camera at 1:18 is fired. Look how ****ing jerky it was! It totally ruined the atmosphere.

I liked it much more, seemed more real and it was the fact that it was Live and some mistakes would obviously happen.

30stone · 20-02-2010, 11:27 AM

It was quite unrealistic this, a police man would never risk his life climbing up there they would wait for him to com down as he has no where to go.

But no not really think they should let them go..
Have to say irl if jack wanted to he coulda thrown that old chubby police bloke on th floor.

Captain.Remy · 20-02-2010, 11:31 AM

The acting is so horrible in this video lmao It burns your eyes.

Smithy · 20-02-2010, 12:18 PM

lmao at 1:18, but does it really matter patrick, its a soap not real life.

Iceman · 20-02-2010, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 30stone

It was quite unrealistic this, a police man would never risk his life climbing up there they would wait for him to com down as he has no where to go.

But no not really think they should let them go..
Have to say irl if jack wanted to he coulda thrown that old chubby police bloke on th floor.

If you watch it again its actually Jack holding onto the police man!!!!!!!