[InOne]

Most voters believe we are living in broken Britain, according to a poll.

Nearly three fifths say they hardly recognise the country they are living in and are deeply pessimistic about the state of Britain today.

The survey shows that 70 per cent believe that society is now broken and 68 per cent believe people who play by the rules get a raw deal.

Many say they are worried by the pace of social change and 42 per cent admit they would like to emigrate, the Populus poll for the Times found.

Women, working-class people and Tory voters were more likely to say that they hardly recognise their own country.

Overall, 64 per cent think that Britain is going in the wrong direction and just 31 per cent believe it is on the right track.

This is a widely used measure of mood in the U.S., where 57 per cent of people think America is going wrong and 37 per cent believe it is on the right track.

It is not all gloom. Three fifths (60 per cent) of those polled say they look to the future with optimism, against 38 per cent who are looking forward with anxiety.

While 45 per cent say Britain’s best years are behind us, 50 per cent say that they are still to come.

More than half the public (55 per cent) say that their children’s lives will be better than their own, while 37 per cent say that they will be worse.

Voters’ main fire is directed at political institutions: 73 per cent say politics is broken in Britain and 77 per cent say there are far fewer people in public life that they admire than there used to be.

The poll suggests anger at MPs who have had to repay expenses.

A third say that they will vote against their local MP if he or she had been required to repay money.

David Cameron claimed yesterday that his generation of Tories were better placed than the Government to ‘fix broken politics’, and unveiled new rules that would bar former ministers in the private sector from lobbying government for two years.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...e-country.html

Do we live in a broken Britain?

[Chels]

it's the weatherrrr

[WOMBAI]

Not at all surprised - I'm one of them! Australia or New Zealand for me!

[Scarlett.]

I'm tired of the stupid phrase "Broken Britian" like all this that is going on is brand new

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Chewy

I'm tired of the stupid phrase "Broken Britian" like all this that is going on is brand new

Indeed, people do go on about a Golden Age of Britian which probably didn't exist, but this is the here and now so we might as well complain about it

[arista]

Yes Broken
due to 13 years of Poxy New Labour.

[Patrick]

Imigrate to were Poland, America, Africa, Russia?

It doesnt get any better than the UK the other countries are worst than here.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Patrick

Imigrate to were Poland, America, Africa, Russia?

It doesnt get any better than the UK the other countries are worst than here.

It gets alot better than the UK lol

[andyman]

Was this poll done in Watford?.. I remember the 1980s and it was more fking broken then..

[Shasown]

Ah the youth of today, just didnt experience the good old days when Brittania really ruled, when Johnny Foreigner would touch his forelock or doff his titfer to us Brits, simply because they realised their place in the order of things.

You kids probably wont believe half of this but

I mean, when I was a kid we didn't have The Internet. If we wanted to know something, we had to go to the damn library and look it up ourselves, in the reference section!!

There was no email!! We had to actually write somebody a letter - with a pen!

Then you had to walk all the way across the street and put it in the postbox and it would take, like, a week to get there!

Stamps were a penny!


Social Services didn't care if our parents beat us. As a matter of fact, the parents of all my friends also had permission to kick my ass! Nowhere was safe!

There were no MP3' s or Napsters! If you wanted to steal music, you had to hitchhike to the damn record store and shoplift it yourself!

Or you had to wait around all day to tape it off the radio and the DJ would usually talk over the beginning and @#*% it all up! There were no CD players! We had tape decks in our car. We'd play our favorite tape and "eject" it when finished and the tape would come undone.. Cause - that's how we rolled, dig?

We didn't have fancy crap like Call Waiting! If you were on the phone and somebody else called they got a busy signal, that's it!

And we didn't have fancy Caller ID either! When the phone rang, you had no idea who it was! It could be your school, your mum, your boss, your bookie, your drug dealer, a collections agent, you just didn't know!!! You had to pick it up and take your chances, mister!

We didn't have any fancy Sony Playstation video games with high-resolution 3-D graphics! We had the Atari 2600! With games like 'Space Invaders' and 'Asteroids'. Your guy was a little square! You actually had to use your imagination!! And there were no multiple levels or screens, it was just one screen.... forever! And you could never win.

The game just kept getting harder and harder and faster and faster until you died! Just like LIFE!


You had to use a little book called a TV Guide to find out what was on! You were screwed when it came to channel surfing! You had to get off your ass and walk over to the TV to change the channel!

NO REMOTES!!!

There was no Cartoon Network either! You could only get cartoons on Saturday Morning. Do you hear what I'm saying!?! We had to wait ALL WEEK for cartoons, you spoiled little rat-bastards!

And we didn't have microwaves, if we wanted to heat something up we had to use the cooker! Imagine that!

That's exactly what I'm talking about! You kids today have got it too easy. You're spoiled. You guys wouldn't have lasted five minutes back in the 1970's or before!

Arrrr the good old days.

[Tom4784]

The past is always rose tinted on reflection and we're a country of complainers. It's not a perfect country but a lot of the people who complain about this country will only find reasons to hate wherever they move to because complaining is in our blood We're never satisfied and we're always pessimistic that pretty musch sums up Britain nothing's changed

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Ah the youth of today, just didnt experience the good old days when Brittania really ruled, when Johnny Foreigner would touch his forelock or doff his titfer to us Brits, simply because they realised their place in the order of things.

You kids probably wont believe half of this but

I mean, when I was a kid we didn't have The Internet. If we wanted to know something, we had to go to the damn library and look it up ourselves, in the reference section!!

There was no email!! We had to actually write somebody a letter - with a pen!

Then you had to walk all the way across the street and put it in the postbox and it would take, like, a week to get there!

Stamps were a penny!


Social Services didn't care if our parents beat us. As a matter of fact, the parents of all my friends also had permission to kick my ass! Nowhere was safe!

There were no MP3' s or Napsters! If you wanted to steal music, you had to hitchhike to the damn record store and shoplift it yourself!

Or you had to wait around all day to tape it off the radio and the DJ would usually talk over the beginning and @#*% it all up! There were no CD players! We had tape decks in our car. We'd play our favorite tape and "eject" it when finished and the tape would come undone.. Cause - that's how we rolled, dig?

We didn't have fancy crap like Call Waiting! If you were on the phone and somebody else called they got a busy signal, that's it!

And we didn't have fancy Caller ID either! When the phone rang, you had no idea who it was! It could be your school, your mum, your boss, your bookie, your drug dealer, a collections agent, you just didn't know!!! You had to pick it up and take your chances, mister!

We didn't have any fancy Sony Playstation video games with high-resolution 3-D graphics! We had the Atari 2600! With games like 'Space Invaders' and 'Asteroids'. Your guy was a little square! You actually had to use your imagination!! And there were no multiple levels or screens, it was just one screen.... forever! And you could never win.

The game just kept getting harder and harder and faster and faster until you died! Just like LIFE!


You had to use a little book called a TV Guide to find out what was on! You were screwed when it came to channel surfing! You had to get off your ass and walk over to the TV to change the channel!

NO REMOTES!!!

There was no Cartoon Network either! You could only get cartoons on Saturday Morning. Do you hear what I'm saying!?! We had to wait ALL WEEK for cartoons, you spoiled little rat-bastards!

And we didn't have microwaves, if we wanted to heat something up we had to use the cooker! Imagine that!

That's exactly what I'm talking about! You kids today have got it too easy. You're spoiled. You guys wouldn't have lasted five minutes back in the 1970's or before!

Arrrr the good old days.

Nice post lol I think i'd of been fine in the 70's haha, it's only recently i've become really attached to the net, and i'm planning to go travelling anyway. I think I was in the last genenration without the net really, it was coming up when I was a kid but nothing like it is today. I used to be able to go out at like 10am and not be back all day and my mum would not even worry. Doubt it's like that now, the media has created too many folk devils and people are scared any paranoid of everyone. Not good really, like people don't even know their neighbours these days in some cases!!! I'd say it's changed alot since you were growing up and you probably saw the most dramatic effects.

[Braden]

I want to live in Dubai

[arista]

Originally Posted by Toasteee

I want to live in Dubai

If you have the Money
it would be Bliss.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toasteee

I want to live in Dubai

what a dive in the desert. full of filth, full of slaves.

[Crimson Dynamo]

What was the poll?

What was the aim of the poll?

Who conducted it?

How many people did they ask?

What type of people did they ask?

How were the questions written?


These questions need to be answered before you could take any "results" even remotely seriously

[NettoSuperstar!]

Crime, family break-up, drunks and drugs: the Conservatives—and apparently plenty of voters—think that Britain has a “broken society”. Does the claim stand up?

http://www.economist.com/world/brita...=hptextfeature

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8368310.stm

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

http://www.economist.com/world/brita...=hptextfeature

that is an article about lots of polls and surveys. Is the DM article sourced from the Economist article?

[InOne]

Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

http://www.economist.com/world/brita...=hptextfeature

Interesting.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Aye interesting, public perception and reality dont always match up (No LT its nowt to do with the DM article)

[InOne]

They should probably shouldn't highlight as much of the stuff that happens on estates really, almost makes it seem like it's main stream society.

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

what a dive in the desert. full of filth, full of slaves.

No Not Filth.


And there are many Western People there.



You Utter Bible Freak.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by InOne

Interesting.

begs the question what are the government doing when a magazine can make a better case for re-election than they can?


It is also worth saying that people always look at emigration based on holiday experience.

ie ooh we loved Spain when we were on holiday there (no cares, free time, out every night) so we will probably move there..


then they find out it is just as bad as where they left just a bit hotter and even that is a pain in the ass.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by arista

No Not Filth.


And there are many Western People there.



You Utter Bible Freak.

Dubai is a hole that attracts the vacuous and the morally bankrupt. It is actually like a huge hoover for twits so from that point of view rather useful.

[Wildcat!]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Ah the youth of today, just didnt experience the good old days when Brittania really ruled, when Johnny Foreigner would touch his forelock or doff his titfer to us Brits, simply because they realised their place in the order of things.

You kids probably wont believe half of this but

I mean, when I was a kid we didn't have The Internet. If we wanted to know something, we had to go to the damn library and look it up ourselves, in the reference section!!

There was no email!! We had to actually write somebody a letter - with a pen!

Then you had to walk all the way across the street and put it in the postbox and it would take, like, a week to get there!

Stamps were a penny!


Social Services didn't care if our parents beat us. As a matter of fact, the parents of all my friends also had permission to kick my ass! Nowhere was safe!

There were no MP3' s or Napsters! If you wanted to steal music, you had to hitchhike to the damn record store and shoplift it yourself!

Or you had to wait around all day to tape it off the radio and the DJ would usually talk over the beginning and @#*% it all up! There were no CD players! We had tape decks in our car. We'd play our favorite tape and "eject" it when finished and the tape would come undone.. Cause - that's how we rolled, dig?

We didn't have fancy crap like Call Waiting! If you were on the phone and somebody else called they got a busy signal, that's it!

And we didn't have fancy Caller ID either! When the phone rang, you had no idea who it was! It could be your school, your mum, your boss, your bookie, your drug dealer, a collections agent, you just didn't know!!! You had to pick it up and take your chances, mister!

We didn't have any fancy Sony Playstation video games with high-resolution 3-D graphics! We had the Atari 2600! With games like 'Space Invaders' and 'Asteroids'. Your guy was a little square! You actually had to use your imagination!! And there were no multiple levels or screens, it was just one screen.... forever! And you could never win.

The game just kept getting harder and harder and faster and faster until you died! Just like LIFE!


You had to use a little book called a TV Guide to find out what was on! You were screwed when it came to channel surfing! You had to get off your ass and walk over to the TV to change the channel!

NO REMOTES!!!

There was no Cartoon Network either! You could only get cartoons on Saturday Morning. Do you hear what I'm saying!?! We had to wait ALL WEEK for cartoons, you spoiled little rat-bastards!

And we didn't have microwaves, if we wanted to heat something up we had to use the cooker! Imagine that!

That's exactly what I'm talking about! You kids today have got it too easy. You're spoiled. You guys wouldn't have lasted five minutes back in the 1970's or before!

Arrrr the good old days.

Epic post.