[LeatherTrumpet]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8583551.stm

Smoking should be banned in all cars as well as in public places where young people congregate, doctors are urging.

The Royal College of Physicians wants England's imminent review of anti-smoking laws to consider such measures to protect the young.

It says passive smoking results in 300,000 extra child visits to GPs in the UK every year for problems such as asthma and bacterial meningitis.

But driving and smoking lobby groups (big tobacco companies) say cars are a "private space".

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This makes perfect sense and it is a horrible thing to do in a car and totally greedy and unnecessary

[rapunza1977]

yukkkkkkkkkkkkkk nothing worse coming in to work in the morning, turning to your right and there is some haggered looking aul bord puffing away in her car! Nice and fresh for going into work

yuk yuk yuk

would never enter anyones car who smoked. I kicked off in a cab once when the guy puffing away - he moaned it was his right his car - I said not this is a public taxi service, you run this as a business so you should refrain from smoking - vile vile vile

[teamandre]

i think that as long as you dont have kids or other people in the car then its your own choice personally it a dirty habbit

[Niamh.]

Fair enough in Taxis and that but don't tell me I can't smoke in my own privatly owned car thank you very much!

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Fair enough in Taxis and that but don't tell me I can't smoke in my own privatly owned car thank you very much!

You cant

and you can let two ugly gay blokes sleep there either


so thats you told

[lily.]

I'm with you Niamh.

I don't smoke - gave up 6 years ago - but I think this is taking things too far. What will be next? You can't smoke in your own house?

The Nanny State strikes again.

[Tom]

Ban it if there are kids in the car. Otherwise just leave it

The fumes are 3000 times more toxic in a car because of such a small space.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Tom

Ban it if there are kids in the car. Otherwise just leave it

The fumes are 3000 times more toxic in a car because of such a small space.

I don't smoke with my kids in the car but most of the time they're not in the car with me.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

You cant

and you can let two ugly gay blokes sleep there either


so thats you told

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by lili

I'm with you Niamh.

I don't smoke - gave up 6 years ago - but I think this is taking things too far. What will be next? You can't smoke in your own house?

The Nanny State strikes again.

Our freedom of choice seems to be slipping away right before our eyes

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by lili

I'm with you Niamh.

I don't smoke - gave up 6 years ago - but I think this is taking things too far. What will be next? You can't smoke in your own house?

The Nanny State strikes again.

I know, stropping people getting cancer and dying is just TOO much

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I know, stropping people getting cancer and dying is just TOO much

It called free will LT, drinking can cause diseases they should ban that too, chocolate can cause obesity lets ban that aswell

[setanta]

If they want to smoke their brains out in their own car let them, provided of course that they're on their own. As for the health issues, I'm sure that they'll have paid for any medical care they may need later on in life through the huge taxes that governments place on tobacco.

[setanta]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

If there isn't a blanket ban in force - how do they stop people smoking with children or unconsenting adults in the car - who can't or don't like to say anything?

Well, they could introduce a confidential phoneline for people to ring if they see anyone breaking that law, like they do in the States with regard to the carpool lanes. Another deterrent anyway and sure there's so many cameras pointed on the roads nowadays that it would be hard to have a puff without them spotting you.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Although I agree in theory that people should be allowed to smoke in their own cars - unfortunately it isn't that black and white!

Not that up on the smoking laws, so not fully aware of what it covers - but although many parents wouldn't smoke with their children in the car - many would! Children need to be protected from those parents! Information and education is always the best way to promote such issues - but sometimes enforcement may be the only way!

If there isn't a blanket ban in force - how do they stop people smoking with children or unconsenting adults in the car - who can't or don't like to say anything?

A ban on smoking with children in the car fine. But telling me I can't smoke in my car that I paid for is just not on.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

It called free will LT, drinking can cause diseases they should ban that too, chocolate can cause obesity lets ban that aswell

they do not equate as only excessive consumption of both cause that and they have no side effects to others in moderate consumption

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

they do not equate as only excessive consumption of both cause that and they have no side effects to others in moderate consumption

Because some people choose to eat/drink in moderation, it's all about choices that I don't want taken away from me.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

A ban on smoking with children in the car fine. But telling me I can't smoke in my car that I paid for is just not on.

Exactly. If people don't like it then wind the window down and shut up.

Personally I don't let anyone smoke in my car and thats my choice- its the decision of the driver, not the passengers. If they don't like it then either wind the window down and shut up or get out and find another way to travel.

Fair enough if its kids, but adults? Nah.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Because some people choose to eat/drink in moderation, it's all about choices that I don't want taken away from me.

why was the choice of using heroin or cocaine taken away from you?

[Shasown]

Yeah I think they should put a blanket ban on smoking in cars, however in return for this I think that the hard shoulder of all motorways should be declared a designating smoking area. All roads should have smokers stops just like bus stops that can only be used by smokers. And because of the amount of money raised by the taxes on tobacco, the NHS should have a two tier system whereby smokers receive higher priority for all treatment.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

why was the choice of using heroin or cocaine taken away from you?

Because government has yet to find a way to control and tax imports of those substances.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

why was the choice of using heroin or cocaine taken away from you?

It's not really, I'm sure I could get either If I looked!

[Twilight]

They are taking to far now, whats next you can't smoke in your own house?
My mum will not be happy, and she smokes in the car, but she has the window open fully.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Fair enough in Taxis and that but don't tell me I can't smoke in my own privatly owned car thank you very much!

I agree with this, I don't smoke but it's ridiculous to try to stop people smoking in their own cars.

[bananarama]

I agree a ban in the car where passengers are involved but otherwise if a solitary person wants to smoke them selves to death......That's their stupid choice.......However in practice enforcing a ban would be as good as impossible........So whats the point!!!!!!!!!!!