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Patrick · 09-12-2010, 05:36 PM

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Four arrests have been made as several hundred angry students mounted a protest in Belfast city centre Today.

Over 500 students gathered outside the City Hall to voice their anger over the proposed rise in student tuition fees in England and the withdrawal of the education maintenance allowance (EMA).

Three men and one woman were arrested in connection with disorderly behaviour as what began as a peaceful parade began to spiral out of control.

One of the men is in his twenties while the others are in their teens.

The protest was organized to co-incide with the Westminster vote on tuition fees taking place on Thursday evening.

Missiles were also thrown at the PSNI in city centre Belfast as they tried to disperse the crowd which was causing major disruption to the flow of traffic.

Many students carried out a sit-down protest on the streets and roads and traffic diversion signs had to be put in place.

A feeder parade organised by the student campaign group Free Education for Everyone (FEE) assembled outside Queen's University's Student Union at lunchtime and marched
through the city to meet fellow disillusioned students from all over the north outside the City Hall.

Sadie Fulton, of FEE, said the protest was just a flavour of what is to come if tuition fees are raised.

"We're not going to go away quietly. If our fees are going to be tripled then what is a right, our education, is only going to be something that the rich can afford," said the final year Queen's student.

Gareth McGreevy, President of Queen's University's Student Union, said they did not organise the protest which was "mainly attended by secondary school students."

He said: "We do not support any illegal behaviour - we support peaceful, legal protests. We are deeply saddened that the concern of the wider public has escalated into violent behaviour.

"We support peaceful legal protests, and indeed have been engaging in mature, informed debates and we see it as a positive step forward that all Northern Ireland MPs have voted against the fees increase today."

Paint bombs, bricks, glass bottles and other missiles were thrown, as the march, which had been largely peaceful, turned violent.

Quite epic.

A group of 6th years in my school walked out to join this at around 10ish this morning was quite cool.

I had to get out of school early so as I was walking through town and saw this, it actually looked pretty peaceful and rather dull.

I actually at one point said to my mate, 'Why the ****** is their police cars there?' and she was like 'Incase it gets out of hand or something' but I kind of laughed, now it's quite funny at how wrong I was.

I expect there shall be more of these to come and angry students since the fees HAVE been risen.

I also hope more situations like this, happened in England aswell and not just here because the more the better really.

JobsForTheBoys · 09-12-2010, 05:43 PM

The police should have used rubber bullets and water cannons instead of pussyfooting about.

Judas · 09-12-2010, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dasher

Quite epic.
I also hope more situations like this, happened in England aswell and not just here because the more the better really.

More peacefull protests or riots?

Patrick · 09-12-2010, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudolph

More peacefull protests or riots?

Riots.

Protests are boring unless they turn into riots.

Judas · 09-12-2010, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dasher

Riots.

Protests are boring unless they turn into riots.

Have we a future anarchist on our hands? What makes you think they are boring? Do you think riots are the best way to partcipate directly?

(these are just questions on your views, not neccesarily criticisms

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Patrick · 09-12-2010, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudolph

Have we a future anarchist on our hands? What makes you think they are boring? Do you think riots are the best way to partcipate directly?

(these are just questions on your views, not neccesarily criticisms

)

I just find Riots more entertaining to watch really,

Protests don't usually get a point across, they do sometimes but not all the time.

And really,
If the police don't want to play fair [Like in this case] then they're going to get what's coming to them.

This is twice in one year actually people have began a peaceful sitdown protest, and the police went and made it bigger than it had to be, resulting in a riot.

[When I say twice in a year, I mean in Belfast not sure about other places but I imagine it may be the same]

Shaun · 09-12-2010, 06:16 PM

Yeah policemen getting injured, what entertainment.

It's people like you that don't deserve higher education

Judas · 09-12-2010, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dasher

I just find Riots more entertaining to watch really,

Protests don't usually get a point across, they do sometimes but not all the time.

And really,
If the police don't want to play fair [Like in this case] then they're going to get what's coming to them.

This is twice in one year actually people have began a peaceful sitdown protest, and the police went and made it bigger than it had to be, resulting in a riot.

[When I say twice in a year, I mean in Belfast not sure about other places but I imagine it may be the same]

Oh right, I rarely agree with riots, especially in western democracies but I feel they can be usefull if used rarely - I don't think they are for the best in this case. There is something fascinating about riots and strikes I agree, even if they can be idiotic and irritating. Watching them is abit like watching Saw, it's quite horrible but you can help but watch.

Even if you dont like normal democracies I think you would like this Documentary, particularly this episode.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...2429147139558#

Great soundtrack to - and there is another episode before which focuses on the 70's when it was chaos - strikes everywhere, even grave diggers went on strike leaving coffins piling up. The working week was reduced to just 3 days (Five day weekend!), schools were closed because of power sortages... basically it was chaos.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...0&hl=en&emb=1#

JobsForTheBoys · 09-12-2010, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Nutcracker

Yeah policemen getting injured, what entertainment.

It's people like you that don't deserve higher education

I think he's a tomato short of a picnic to be honest.

Shasown · 09-12-2010, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dasher

I just find Riots more entertaining to watch really,

Protests don't usually get a point across, they do sometimes but not all the time.

And really,
If the police don't want to play fair [Like in this case] then they're going to get what's coming to them.

This is twice in one year actually people have began a peaceful sitdown protest, and the police went and made it bigger than it had to be, resulting in a riot.

[When I say twice in a year, I mean in Belfast not sure about other places but I imagine it may be the same]

Clue us in Partick how did the police make it bigger? Were they the ones throwing Paint Bombs, bricks, glass bottles and other missiles?

Iceman · 09-12-2010, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dasher

Riots.

Protests are boring unless they turn into riots.

Seriously, have you no morals or ethics?

JobsForTheBoys · 09-12-2010, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowman

Seriously, have you no morals or ethics?

I'm not treating him seriously, Its the best thing to do with posters like him.

Kazanne · 09-12-2010, 06:37 PM

These yobs need a good size 10 stuck up their asses,waste of space the lot of them.

Patrick · 09-12-2010, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JobsForTheBoys

I'm not treating him seriously, Its the best thing to do with posters like him.

Members like me?

Who the ****** are you? You random little thing.
You joined like an hour ago and you think you know half the forum, get out.

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Originally Posted by Shasown

Clue us in Partick how did the police make it bigger? Were they the ones throwing Paint Bombs, bricks, glass bottles and other missiles?

No.

However, Just as they did in July they grab people and try to make it bigger than it has to be.

No one went down to the middle of the town, all guns blazing and throwing things.

Students who feel passionate about something, went down to protest peacefully by sitting down, or standing up with signs. [And some funny ones at that].

But of course the police had to come along and cause sh*t.

In July, The Police actually attacked a group of protesters for doing nothing more than sitting down.

Video Here:

You can see what I mean if you skip to 0:53

Youtube video

Notice there was no violence on the protesters part, up until the police jumped in.

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Originally Posted by Snowman

Seriously, have you no morals or ethics?

Yes, and I just explained once and now twice [look above this] as to why I just said what I said.

billy123 · 09-12-2010, 06:47 PM

Youtube video

JobsForTheBoys · 09-12-2010, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dasher

Members like me?

Who the ****** are you? You random little thing.
You joined like an hour ago and you think you know half the forum, get out.
.

If they put your brain in a budgie it would fly backwards.

MTVN · 09-12-2010, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dasher

No.

However, Just as they did in July they grab people and try to make it bigger than it has to be.

No one went down to the middle of the town, all guns blazing and throwing things.

Students who feel passionate about something, went down to protest peacefully by sitting down, or standing up with signs. [And some funny ones at that].

But of course the police had to come along and cause sh*t.

In July, The Police actually attacked a group of protesters for doing nothing more than sitting down.

Video Here:

You can see what I mean if you skip to 0:53

Youtube video

Notice there was no violence on the protesters part, up until the police jumped in.

Maybe because they were illegally blocking the road..