[Liberty4eva]

The more I look into the whole global warming scare, the more I think it's about taxing and controlling people and less about saving the planet. Guess I want to see where people on this forum stand.

Also, not really necessary to this discussion, I've found a couple of youtube videos (one a hillarious parody of the other) to highlight the different tactics of the sides.

Youtube video

Youtube video

[lostalex]

It really doesn't matter what you think. It's real and it's happening. What you think has absolutely no impact on it's existence.

And whether you believe in it or not, there's nothing you can do about it, which is even more depressing.

Even if America took every car off the road tomorrow, the pollution from China would continue the carbon emissions destroying the planet.

There's nothing America or Europe can do. China is killing the planet and there's nothing we can do to stop them.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by lostalex

It really doesn't matter what you think. It's real and it's happening. What you think has absolutely no impact on it's existence.

And whether you believe in it or not, there's nothing you can do about it, which is even more depressing.

Even if America took every car off the road tomorrow, the pollution from China would continue the carbon emissions destroying the planet.

There's nothing America or Europe can do. China is killing the planet and there's nothing we can do to stop them.

As opposed to finger pointing people should be doing their own little bit. Two wrongs dont make a right.

Maybe the pollution from China is the greatest contributing factor, that doesnt mean America and Europe should just carry on polluting the way they are.

You wont get anyone to stop doing something willingly that you are doing anyway until you show them that you are doing what you want them to do.

The Earth goes through periods of cooling down and heating up naturally, the sun is expanding all the time. We cant stop that, however we can reduce our contribution to climate change.

[Patrick]

Originally Posted by lostalex

It really doesn't matter what you think. It's real and it's happening. What you think has absolutely no impact on it's existence.

And whether you believe in it or not, there's nothing you can do about it, which is even more depressing.

Even if America took every car off the road tomorrow, the pollution from China would continue the carbon emissions destroying the planet.

There's nothing America or Europe can do. China is killing the planet and there's nothing we can do to stop them.

We could always...

Spoiler:

...Blow Up China

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by lostalex

It really doesn't matter what you think. It's real and it's happening. What you think has absolutely no impact on it's existence.

Same advice to you. No matter how often you believe and 'announce' the planet is warming - it doesn't become true.

Technically (and realistically) the overall temperature has been cooling. for something like 5 years or more.
No doubt (and we ought to expect) it will also go back up for 5 or 15 years and then cool again.

But as Lord Monckton might ask - what temperature is the climate supposed to be?

[billy123]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

Same advice to you. No matter how often you believe and 'announce' the planet is warming - it doesn't become true.

Technically (and realistically) the overall temperature has been cooling. for something like 5 years or more.
No doubt (and we ought to expect) it will also go back up for 5 or 15 years and then cool again.

But as Lord Monckton might ask - what temperature is the climate supposed to be?

Long time no see el-proximo good to see you checking in

You are correct and that is why a lot of "experts" have suddenly stepped away from the term global warming and have coined the term climate change.

In the 80's the panic was that we were entering another ice age accelerated by cfc gases as temperatures had been dropping over a 10 year period only for the realisation that this had stopped happening and was followed by a 10-15 year period of rising temperatures causing the term global warming to become the hot topic.

Then comes the period we seem to be in now seeing some of the coldest winters on record all over the world so now we get panics about "climate change" so they dont have to do an about turn again.

It looks to me like these could well be natural cycles that the earth encounters and that not some crisis that needs to be dealt with yesterday or we all die.

I still think we need to change and that we are slowly poisoning our world and it cant continue as it is indefinitely but as for creating a huge greenhouse that we are all going to fry in ummmm no i dont think so.

(just out of curiosity in the 80's the panic was about the huge hole in the ozone layer that using aerosols and fridges had caused the hole was due to get so big we all died of radiation poisoning from ultra violet light what became of that hole? )

[GypsyGoth]

I think the world will start cooling down in about five years time. It's all going to be about Global Cooling.

[Beastie]

The sun is coming closer to Earth. This is why the Earth is getting warmer. The Human Race are probably contributing a small fraction to it. Not much difference will be made though if someone decides to take up a few extra carbon footprints by driving to work though.

[Patrick]

Originally Posted by thebeast

The sun is coming closer to Earth. This is why the Earth is getting warmer. The Human Race are probably contributing a small fraction to it. Not much difference will be made though if someone decides to take up a few extra carbon footprints by driving to work though.

Yeah apparently the UK is meant to have the same tempature that you'd find in Spain and Turkey in the near future.

I just wish it would hurry the ****** up.

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by Patrick

Yeah apparently the UK is meant to have the same tempature that you'd find in Spain and Turkey in the near future.

I just wish it would hurry the ****** up.

Haha. Oh usually France is hot enough for me. Can't wait for the sun though

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Patrick

Yeah....blahblahblah

Patrick, is that my fabulous Aisleyne in your avatar?

[arista]

Originally Posted by thebeast

The sun is coming closer to Earth. This is why the Earth is getting warmer. The Human Race are probably contributing a small fraction to it. Not much difference will be made though if someone decides to take up a few extra carbon footprints by driving to work though.

Yes The Sun will destroy this Planet in
the very long term future.


And we add to the problem
but we are not the problem.


Building a Space Station on other planets
will be our Very Long Term Future.
Walmart Space Dome with Non Stop Veg Growing.

[Niall]

Global warming is an obvious, human created danger. It really amazes me that people cannot see the massive effects that our actions are having on the world around us. As we speak global warming is reeking havoc across the globe. A small pacific nation called Tuvalu is having to deal with the prospect of their islands being submerged under the ocean because sea levels are rising. That is one of many problems caused by our actions.

[Grimnir]

Originally Posted by Niall

Global warming is an obvious, human created danger. It really amazes me that people cannot see the massive effects that our actions are having on the world around us. As we speak global warming is reeking havoc across the globe. A small pacific nation called Tuvalu is having to deal with the prospect of their islands being submerged under the ocean because sea levels are rising. That is one of many problems caused by our actions.

It amazes me that people STILL believe the government even though time and time again they have been proven to be liars

You never see a scientist talking about climate change, it is always a politican or a ******in joke celebrity. IF there is a scientist, then there is sure to be a politican sat in his lap whilst he speaks.

It is irrelevant whether climate change is occuring or not, all that is relevant is that the government are telling us that it is. The reason for this is to make money NOTHING ELSE. Government is corrupt and they lie about EVERYTHING. Financial crisis, Iraq, Middle East Crisis LIES and BS

IF climate change caused by MAN is indeed true and will cause devastating catastrophic events, then the government should BAN all causes of this so called man made contributions. BAN STOP CEASE. They dont because they know its balls.

People need to wake up

[InOne]

Won't happen in my lifetime. So I frankly don't give a fuck either way

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by InOne

Won't happen in my lifetime. So I frankly don't give a fuck either way

thats how I feel.

Little me can't do anything so why fuss about it.

If you look at the history of the planet its been through some very extreme changes over millions of years so Im sure its always gonna be that way regardless of what humans do. That said, I do think we should use our intelligence to find alterior sources to satisfy our needs. We are destroying many of the planets natural resources. They will run out eventually.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by InOne

Won't happen in my lifetime. So I frankly don't give a fuck either way

Be sure to tell that to your kids before you die. "Fuck you I'm outta here".

[InOne]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Be sure to tell that to your kids before you die. "Fuck you I'm outta here".

I don't want kids, they get in the way

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by InOne

I don't want kids, they get in the way

I wonder if you will be of the same opinion when love comes a calling.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Shasown

I wonder if you will be of the same opinion when love comes a calling.

Either way, there is nothing much we can do. Even the people who try to help are a drop in the ocean

[Patrick]

Hardly a Hoax.

[Grimnir]

Government says that carbon emissions from human activity are creating global warming and this global warming will have potentially catastrophic impact on the world. Right?

So why do the government not immediately ban all carbon emissions outright???

Because government is lying, just like they lie about EVERYTHING.

It is just a money making scam.

Rule number one is: If the government says it, its bollocks.

For billions of years the Earth has gone through periods of warm climate and cooler climate.

[Angus]

Over the whole course of Earth's history, the planet has warmed up and cooled down without any input from human beings. It is a natural and inevitable phenomenon and any actions taken by environmentalists to slow down global warming are just placebos to make them feel better - ultimately anything human beings do is not going to be enough to counteract the ongoing evolution of our planet.

[InOne]

One thing that does piss me off is people cutting down trees. Cos that is actively destroying nature

[Ninastar]

I think its a hoax