[lostalex]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Bollocks, what makes being a patriotic Iranian worse than being a patriotic Briton?

the British state doesn't stone homosexuals and rape victims to death as a matter of national policy? That's just 1 of many reasons.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by lostalex

the British state doesn't stone homosexuals and rape victims to death as a matter of national policy? That's just 1 of many reasons.

No, but they do allow child murderers to be freed, given new identities and allow them a completely new life to start over - all paid for by the public purse - the same public who in the majority, dsagree with such 'policies'. Iran may have their flaws, but my god, so too does Britain and the rest of the Western world.

To suggest Patriotism as being considered a mental disorder is uttery nonsense. Many people see different things, good and bad, in their country.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by lostalex

the British state doesn't stone homosexuals and rape victims to death as a matter of national policy? That's just 1 of many reasons.

Irrelevant. If you're from Iran and consider yourself patriotic that doesnt automatically mean you're accountable for what your government does and it doesnt mean you're a "bad patriot".

And look at the atrocities Britain has commited in the past, and the USA, if you're patriotic to the UK it doesnt suddenly mean you're accountable for that either.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Irrelevant. If you're from Iran and consider yourself patriotic that doesnt automatically mean you're accountable for what your government does and it doesnt mean you're a "bad patriot".

And look at the atrocities Britain has commited in the past, and the USA, if you're patriotic to the UK it doesnt suddenly mean you're accountable for that either.

Totally agree.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Irrelevant. If you're from Iran and consider yourself patriotic that doesnt automatically mean you're accountable for what your government does and it doesnt mean you're a "bad patriot".

And look at the atrocities Britain has commited in the past, and the USA, if you're patriotic to the UK it doesnt suddenly mean you're accountable for that either.

That's a good point. I suppose it is all relative. I'm only speaking for myself. If i was Iranian, i wouldn't be proud of my country, but I'm American, and i am very proud of my country. (but not everything it's ever done)

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

That's a good point. I suppose it is all relative. I'm only speaking for myself. If i was Iranian, i wouldn't be proud of my country, but I'm American, and i am very proud of my country. (but not everything it's ever done)

You don't know that though, you would think very differently if you were Iranian.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by lostalex

That's a good point. I suppose it is all relative. I'm only speaking for myself. If i was Iranian, i wouldn't be proud of my country, but I'm American, and i am very proud of my country. (but not everything it's ever done)

That does not make sense. How can you possible assume / know how you would feel if you were someone else!!

I have no idea what it would feel like to be a Masai warrior for example, therefore I could not possibly comment on whether they are proud of Kenya?

How you can say that, completely baffles me.

[Zippy]

Nothing wrong with being proud of where you come from

But like with everything else its about moderation. Nobody likes extremists or arrogant superiority complexes.

But devotion and loyalty are fine and dandy.