[Niamh.]

The first millionaire from Simons new game show Red or Black Nathan Hageman is in danger of not receiving his winnings.......

http://www.metro.co.uk/tv/874583-red...-ex-girlfriend


Should he or shouldn't he?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

The first millionaire from Simons new game show Red or Black Nathan Hageman is in danger of not receiving his winnings.......

http://www.metro.co.uk/tv/874583-red...-ex-girlfriend


Should he or shouldn't he?

Yes he did his time.


He is a Legal Player

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes he did his time.


He is a Legal Player

I thought so too, I actually didn't think they'd be allowed to take the winnings from him but they must be.

[Pyramid*]

Mmmm...... given that the show were aware of his criminal background, they still allowed him to participate: regardless.

I've no time for anyone who assaults or physcially harm another human being in such circumstances: male or female - but if the show knew before hand and allowed him to take part: it's no use them trying to take the moral high ground now.

He's entitled as far as I'm concerned. It might seem unfair - and from the victim's perspective, I understand the grievance feeling: I understand it all too well, but the show's people knew about it - and let him take part.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Mmmm...... given that the show were aware of his criminal background, they still allowed him to participate: regardless.

I've no time for anyone who assaults or physcially harm another human being in such circumstances: male or female - but if the show knew before hand and allowed him to take part: it's no use them trying to take the moral high ground now.

He's entitled as far as I'm concerned. It might seem unfair - and from the victim's perspective, I understand the grievance feeling: I understand it all too well, but the show's people knew about it - and let him take part.

No they were not aware
this is the press dug it up.
He never told them.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by arista

No they were not aware
this is the press dug it up.

No, it says they were aware but that he'd told them it was a man that he'd assaulted not a woman

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

No, it says they were aware but that he'd told them it was a man that he'd assaulted not a woman

Yes so they did not have the Truth.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by arista

No they were not aware
this is the press dug it up.
He never told them.

ITV had initially supported Hageman following news of his conviction, saying they were aware of his criminal past.


Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/tv/874583-red...#ixzz1XAa4XaSC

Originally Posted by Niamh.

No, it says they were aware but that he'd told them it was a man that he'd assaulted not a woman

Correct, they state they were aware.

If they were bothered at all by any conviction: they would have felt the need to check it out ..... they knew about it, didn't feel they needed / wanted / cared to check it out.... so they should pay up the readies.

[ILoveTRW]

give it to the victims

[arista]

Originally Posted by ILoveTRW

give it to the victims

No as he did a prison term


So thats done with.

[Tom4784]

He's done his time and there hasn't been any offences since, let him have his money. If we continue to punish people who have repayed their debt then we might as well give life to everyone who's ever done wrong.

[joeysteele]

I will never condone his actions as to the crime committed but of course he should have the winnings.
If he won the lottery he would get that.

I am sure though they will have something in very small print that says something different to that.
Something that goes on the lines of, if the company feels it has been misled as to applicants and contestants then they reserve some right to not honour payments.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I will never condone his actions as to the crime committed but of course he should have the winnings.
If he won the lottery he would get that.

I am sure though they will have something in very small print that says something different to that.
Something that goes on the lines of, if the company feels it has been misled as to applicants and contestants then they reserve some right to not honour payments.

Yeah, they must do otherwise they wouldn't be discussing it. Still though, I think he'd have a pretty good chance legally of getting it if they decided not to give it to him and he challenged it.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah, they must do otherwise they wouldn't be discussing it. Still though, I think he'd have a pretty good chance legally of getting it if they decided not to give it to him and he challenged it.

Not the best start for Simon's new show really though.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Not the best start for Simon's new show really though.

Or is it............? Everytime some "scandal" comes out about one of his shows I always suspect a fix, I'm getting very cynical!

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Or is it............? Everytime some "scandal" comes out about one of his shows I always suspect a fix, I'm getting very cynical!

Worked a treat for WWTBAM with Judith Keppel, related to royalty, the million pound question being one on Royal Family history IIRC?



I'm with you on the cynical ploy front...

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Or is it............? Everytime some "scandal" comes out about one of his shows I always suspect a fix, I'm getting very cynical!

Contoversial headlines, you are likely right. He always says in response to positive or negative headlines that 'all' publicity is good publicity, if people are talking about you, you are noticed.

[Maia]

They should give the money to Angel instead.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Mollie.

They should give the money to Angel instead.

No he played that game and Won.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by arista

No he played that game and Won.

Precisely.

They knew about his background, didn't care enough to check it out and seek clarification on it: so it wasn't important enough to the show at the point of allowing him to become a contestant.

The man won fair and square. Now on the back of all this publicity: if he wanted to move on with his life having done his jail time: the show have put paid to that................................... what price Ł1m in winnings. Could it be Karma coming round and all that!!

[MTVN]

Yeah I think he should get the money, he's served his time for his offence and they obviously had no problem with him appearing despite his criminal record so it's only fair that he now gets to keep his winnings

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Yeah I think he should get the money, he's served his time for his offence and they obviously had no problem with him appearing despite his criminal record so it's only fair that he now gets to keep his winnings

Also, if they didn't give him the money they're basically saying that it's ok for him to assault a man but not a woman. I mean, I know it's probably worse that it was a woman as he could do more damage but you're either making a stand against violence or you're not.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Also, if they didn't give him the money they're basically saying that it's ok for him to assault a man but not a woman. I mean, I know it's probably worse that it was a woman as he could do more damage but you're either making a stand against violence or you're not.

yep spot on.

I wonder what the ever growing amount of MEN who suffer daily from domestic abuse etc would have to say about that.

They haven't really thought all this 'publicity' thing through very well: geezo!!

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Also, if they didn't give him the money they're basically saying that it's ok for him to assault a man but not a woman. I mean, I know it's probably worse that it was a woman as he could do more damage but you're either making a stand against violence or you're not.

Yeah that's a good point as well, you can't really say it's fine for him to compete if he assaults a man but not a woman, assault is assault and it's not really any good to try and make out that the gender of the victim makes it a lot more acceptable/unacceptable

[arista]

Yes Wright Stuff Ch5 spent 20mins on it


If its on Every News
thats big PR