[the truth]

other than for the rare situation where a person must have a gun i.e. farmers or huge areas f land protecting their animals from hunters

other than that, with 300 million guns floating around america, the whole nation needs to be cleaned up...starting at the top with obama and co

the first thing everyone needs to do is understand one simple point, more guns in the system , do not make you safer, they make you much more endangered and thousands more innocent people will die, that is a tragic fact that will get worse and worse the more guns we see and the more hype and hysteria we see spouted on news channel allowed to lie such as fox news (which is banned in some nations like canada where gun crime is tiny compared to usa)

in england 39 people were shot dead last year, in america it was 8775

the national rifle association are mega powerful and make billions, time for obama to win the election then have an unarmed showdown once and for all with these crazy money grabbing gun slinging zealaots.

live nationwide debate, in which the sheer logic and human decency of starting to disarm america must begin as the true agenda of the gun supporters is exposed as a violent money anti-patriotic grabbing sham

In the meantime my thoughts and prayers go to all the victims and injured people affected by the latest shooting tragedy

[BBfanUSA]

...do you realize that you can't reason with hicks/rednecks that are stupid as **** right? I live in America. There's no way in hell that'll happen. You would have to take away their guns from their cold dead hands after the gov't has killed them so you could actually get to them. This also goes for Gangsters,etc. Even if you ban guns they'll still leak into the country America is too big to watch every inch of the border.

My god I hate it when this things are brought up.

Also I need to add something you showed that America has a bigger number. That's because it's a bigger population. Even with a number as big as that.

and also I'm sure the NRA isn't full of rich people. There's probably members of the middle class and rednecks.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by the truth

other than for the rare situation where a person must have a gun i.e. farmers or huge areas f land protecting their animals from hunters

other than that, with 300 million guns floating around america, the whole nation needs to be cleaned up...starting at the top with obama and co

the first thing everyone needs to do is understand one simple point, more guns in the system , do not make you safer, they make you much more endangered and thousands more innocent people will die, that is a tragic fact that will get worse and worse the more guns we see and the more hype and hysteria we see spouted on news channel allowed to lie such as fox news (which is banned in some nations like canada where gun crime is tiny compared to usa)

in england 39 people were shot dead last year, in america it was 8775

the national rifle association are mega powerful and make billions, time for obama to win the election then have an unarmed showdown once and for all with these crazy money grabbing gun slinging zealaots.

live nationwide debate, in which the sheer logic and human decency of starting to disarm america must begin as the true agenda of the gun supporters is exposed as a violent money anti-patriotic grabbing sham

In the meantime my thoughts and prayers go to all the victims and injured people affected by the latest shooting tragedy

I agree with your statement but I feel that it's to late for USA now as the psychos have already got the guns, and also they need to deal with rape and paedophile crimes at the same time, and other forms of murder so Obama or whoever is incharge after the next election has alot to sort out.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by big brother usa fan

...do you realize that you can't reason with hicks/rednecks that are stupid as **** right? I live in America. There's no way in hell that'll happen. You would have to take away their guns from their cold dead hands after the gov't has killed them so you could actually get to them. This also goes for Gangsters,etc. Even if you ban guns they'll still leak into the country America is too big to watch every inch of the border.

My god I hate it when this things are brought up.

Also I need to add something you showed that America has a bigger number. That's because it's a bigger population. Even with a number as big as that.

and also I'm sure the NRA isn't full of rich people. There's probably members of the middle class and rednecks.

Even on a percentage scale though America is always in the top 10 committing a crime.

[BBfanUSA]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

I agree with your statement but I feel that it's to late for USA now as the psychos have already got the guns, and also they need to deal with rape and paedophile crimes at the same time, and other forms of murder so Obama or whoever is incharge after the next election has alot to sort out.

actually there's a sex offender/pedophile registry. Especially Pedos are very restricted. They cannot live within 100 yards within a school/Daycare/playground/anything that involves kids. Also in some states they have to have notices saying they're Pedos and they have to alert everyone within the neighborhood face to face.

People who do perform rape are put into the registry so anyone can look them up as well.

There's other problems America have to worry about first. Like Healthcare/Social Security, The Border with Mexico, Debt Problem before rape cases and pedos.

[MTVN]

Increasing gun control won't fully solve the problem, you could even say it'd make it worse because the sort of people who will use them for murderous purposes will still find ways to get them (as they did in Norway, Toulouse etc.) but those who are actually law abiding and carry guns for any number of reasons won't be able to get them. Anyway it's unrealistic to expect America to Europeanise it's gun laws, I think often western Europeans take quite a snobbish attitude to Americans as if we've got the gun problem all figured out but they're too stupid to realise but we should recognise that we have a very different attitude to firearms than a lot of Americans do, and we can't always apply the same standards

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by big brother usa fan

actually there's a sex offender/pedophile registry. Especially Pedos are very restricted. They cannot live within 100 yards within a school/Daycare/playground/anything that involves kids. Also in some states they have to have notices saying they're Pedos and they have to alert everyone within the neighborhood face to face.

People who do perform rape are put into the registry so anyone can look them up as well.

There's other problems America have to worry about first. Like Healthcare/Social Security, The Border with Mexico, Debt Problem before rape cases and pedos.

While I dont agree with a lot of americas laws and that, I wish we had something like this. Instead the UK protect convicted paedophiles with anonymity

[BBfanUSA]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Increasing gun control won't fully solve the problem, you could even say it'd make it worse because the sort of people who will use them for murderous purposes will still find ways to get them (as they did in Norway, Toulouse etc.) but those who are actually law abiding and carry guns for any number of reasons won't be able to get them. Anyway it's unrealistic to expect America to Europeanise it's gun laws, I think often western Europeans take quite a snobbish attitude to Americans as if we've got the gun problem all figured out but they're too stupid to realise but we should recognise that we have a very different attitude to firearms than a lot of Americans do, and we can't always apply the same standards

If I had that gif of a guy applauding in Black and White movie looking mean I would post that here. THANK YOU MTVN.

Though there is still a problem with Pedos NOT being reported. The Penn State Sandusky scandal is a great example of this.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by big brother usa fan

actually there's a sex offender/pedophile registry. Especially Pedos are very restricted. They cannot live within 100 yards within a school/Daycare/playground/anything that involves kids. Also in some states they have to have notices saying they're Pedos and they have to alert everyone within the neighborhood face to face.

People who do perform rape are put into the registry so anyone can look them up as well.

There's other problems America have to worry about first. Like Healthcare/Social Security, The Border with Mexico, Debt Problem before rape cases and pedos.

You might say that but howcome America has alot of rapists and paedophiles reoffending? don't get me wrong it happens over here aswell but that's more due to it being a holiday camp and the short prison sentences.

[lostalex]

ain't gonna happen, unless you wanna start Civil War part 2.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

You might say that but howcome America has alot of rapists and paedophiles reoffending? don't get me wrong it happens over here aswell but that's more due to it being a holiday camp and the short prison sentences.

the vast majority of pedophillia and rape happens inside yur own home. Most children are molested by their own family members or people close to the family. And families hide it and protect the offenders.

The Jerry Sandusky case is the perfect example, everyone knew what was happening and no one said anything.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by lostalex

the vast majority of pedophillia and rape happens inside yur own home. Most children are molested by their own family members or people close to the family. And families hide it and protect the offenders.

The Jerry Sandusky case is the perfect example, everyone knew what was happening and no one said anything.

Stuff like that makes me sick, I know I can have a pretty dark sense of humour about these stuff but I could never understand how people's own parents cover up for the paedophiles or the rapists that done it to there Daughter/Son, anything like this ever happened to one of my family members and I found out who done it I would grass them up in a heartbeat and that's if I was in a rational mind.

[lostalex]

You'd think everyone feels that way mock, but given the absolutely astronomical rates of molestation and rape, some say as high as 1 out of 4 girls have been sexually assaulted by the age of 18....

Obviosly most people are more interested in hiding their head in the sand than actually confronting this issue.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Stuff like that makes me sick, I know I can have a pretty dark sense of humour about these stuff but I could never understand how people's own parents cover up for the paedophiles or the rapists that done it to there Daughter/Son, anything like this ever happened to one of my family members and I found out who done it I would grass them up in a heartbeat and that's if I was in a rational mind.

I dunno about covering up, it's more probably because they're not aware. When it happens inside the home it's usually someone they love and trust, it becomes the "our little secret" type thing. The child is either too young to understand what's happening or has the fear of god put into them so they don't speak out. (Not as in God will punish them, that the abuser will kill them or hurt them type thing)

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by lostalex

You'd think everyone feels that way mock, but given the absolutely astronomical rates of molestation and rape, some say as high as 1 out of 4 girls have been sexually assaulted by the age of 18....

Obviosly most people are more interested in hiding their head in the sand than actually confronting this issue.

That's a really bad statistic, and sadly it's getting worse on all the major crimes, including gun shootings in other countries.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by InOne

I dunno about covering up, it's more probably because they're not aware. When it happens inside the home it's usually someone they love and trust, it becomes the "our little secret" type thing. The child is either too young to understand what's happening or has the fear of god put into them so they don't speak out. (Not as in God will punish them, that the abuser will kill them or hurt them type thing)

I get what your saying but it's a sad state of affairs really.

[Patrick]

Originally Posted by big brother usa fan

actually there's a sex offender/pedophile registry. Especially Pedos are very restricted. They cannot live within 100 yards within a school/Daycare/playground/anything that involves kids. Also in some states they have to have notices saying they're Pedos and they have to alert everyone within the neighborhood face to face.

What a ******ed up and backwards law, proving how idiotic Americans really are.

'Hey, you just moved into the neighbourhood man?'
'Yeah! Btw I'm a Pedo lol x'
'alrighty then..'

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Patrick

What a ******ed up and backwards law, proving how idiotic Americans really are.

'Hey, you just moved into the neighbourhood man?'
'Yeah! Btw I'm a Pedo lol x'
'alrighty then..'

I think it's good that the parents get warned so that they don't mistakenly trust the paedo with there child and then the paedo does the deed with the child.

[BBfanUSA]

Also they're in a public database along with those that have performed rape and sexual assault.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by big brother usa fan

...do you realize that you can't reason with hicks/rednecks that are stupid as **** right? I live in America. There's no way in hell that'll happen. You would have to take away their guns from their cold dead hands after the gov't has killed them so you could actually get to them. This also goes for Gangsters,etc. Even if you ban guns they'll still leak into the country America is too big to watch every inch of the border.

My god I hate it when this things are brought up.

Also I need to add something you showed that America has a bigger number. That's because it's a bigger population. Even with a number as big as that.

and also I'm sure the NRA isn't full of rich people. There's probably members of the middle class and rednecks.

the population isnt the issue, america has the highest rate per person of deaths by gunshot in the entire developed world, its rate is over 40 times higher than the UK? so for example if in uk where theres 60 million then 40 people get shot dead last year, in the US theres 300 million people and 8775 are shot dead. so the american population is only 5 times the Uk but the number murdered by guns is 220 times as many as the british?

I realise as you say theres a vast number of morons with guns. thats th ewhole problem. ....for evil to thrive all it takes is for good men (and women) to do nothing, the good people, the moral clever decent peace loving people must get mad and fight tooth and nail using their love of peace and pacifism and good moral law and order to reduce the guns and weapons available to joe public...this is an enormous problem and frankly it must be addressed now. otherwise you and all americans may as well leave tonight because that great country will go to hell in a handbasket

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Patrick

What a ******ed up and backwards law, proving how idiotic Americans really are.

'Hey, you just moved into the neighbourhood man?'
'Yeah! Btw I'm a Pedo lol x'
'alrighty then..'

really? it proves how stupid Americans are? because there is so much less pedophillia in Ireland right? *cough-irishcatholicpriests-cough* are you stupid enuf to believe that?

Don't make me waste my next infraction on an idiot like you please.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Patrick

What a ******ed up and backwards law, proving how idiotic Americans really are.

'Hey, you just moved into the neighbourhood man?'
'Yeah! Btw I'm a Pedo lol x'
'alrighty then..'

Quite the opposite IMO.

I think parents should have the right to know if their child is at risk.

Unlike over here where the criminals are protected and if anyone finds out they are pedos they get a new house somewhere else where noone knows them

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by lostalex

really? it proves how stupid Americans are? because there is so much less pedophillia in Ireland right? *cough-irishcatholicpriests-cough* are you stupid enuf to believe that?

Don't make me waste my next infraction on an idiot like you please.

I agree with your point and lol at the last sentence of your post.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by the truth

the population isnt the issue, america has the highest rate per person of deaths by gunshot in the entire developed world, its rate is over 40 times higher than the UK? so for example if in uk where theres 60 million then 40 people get shot dead last year, in the US theres 300 million people and 8775 are shot dead. so the american population is only 5 times the Uk but the number murdered by guns is 220 times as many as the british?

I realise as you say theres a vast number of morons with guns. thats th ewhole problem. ....for evil to thrive all it takes is for good men (and women) to do nothing, the good people, the moral clever decent peace loving people must get mad and fight tooth and nail using their love of peace and pacifism and good moral law and order to reduce the guns and weapons available to joe public...this is an enormous problem and frankly it must be addressed now. otherwise you and all americans may as well leave tonight because that great country will go to hell in a handbasket

and why are you focusing on gun shots? does it honestly matter to you if your family member was killed by gunshot, or knife, or rope?? the facts are that the US is one of the safest and least violent countries in the world, and actually the UK has higher violent cfrime rates than the US. Why are you so obsessed with gun shot homocides, if you compare Europe as a whole with the USA it's about the same, so no, this is not a US problem, Europe is just as violent and has similar rates of homocide as the USA.

IF i have to choose between getting shot or stabbed, i'd choose getting shot.

The point is that it doesn't matter how tyou kill someone. You are selectively usaing statistics to be anti-gun when in fact having guns has nothing to do with it.

South America has some of the strictest gun laws in the world, they also have the highest number of murder rates, so wtf does guns have to do with it??

Once again you have proven that yur username is ironic.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by lostalex

and why are you focusing on gun shots? does it honestly matter to you if your family member was killed by gunshot, or knife, or rope?? the facts are that the US is one of the safest and least violent countries in the world, and actually the UK has higher violent cfrime rates than the US. Why are you so obsessed with gun shot homocides, if you compare Europe as a whole with the USA it's about the same, so no, this is not a US problem, Europe is just as violent and has similar rates of homocide as the USA.

IF i have to choose between getting shot or stabbed, i'd choose getting shot.

The point is that it doesn't matter how tyou kill someone. You are selectively usaing statistics to be anti-gun when in fact having guns has nothing to do with it.

South America has some of the strictest gun laws in the world, they also have the highest number of murder rates, so wtf does guns have to do with it??

Once again you have proven that yur username is ironic.

Good effort to support guns fair play. shame you have to swear so much sort of makes you look stupid. Also to choose ways to be murdered is also insane and in incredibly bad taste. I repeat death by guns statistics are way higher per head in america than any other civilized nation. now why do you think this is and why do you ignore it? do you think america should have 300 million guns? maybe you think they should have more? how many more? 500 million ? 1000 million? should every adult and every child have a hand gun each? where do you draw the line?

also your claim that deaths by guns is as high in europe as america is a lie. also the european population in total is almst twice as much as america. however it is the death rate per person we need to concern ourselves with here. america has harsher sentences , longer sentences, more executions, yet still the gun murders are miles and miles ahead of the rest of the civilized world? I want to see this reduced ? do you? Ive made my suggestions, what are yours>?