[arista]

GUILTY! Paedophile rapist, 18, met with a probation officer just 90 minutes before he raped an 11-year-old girl in a park





Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2QpvcVAlO

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...s-8578312.html


That 11 year old girl had to have surgery.

Evil Paedo - I hope he stays in Prison forever

[Omah]

No doubt he will have a hard time in the chokey ..... :hmph)

[Jake.]

disgusting pig

[Z]

Rape is wrong, why isn't this drilled into everyone's heads from a young age?

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by Zee

Rape is wrong, why isn't this drilled into everyone's heads from a young age?

It is, some sick people just don't care.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Zee

Rape is wrong, why isn't this drilled into everyone's heads from a young age?

Not really the point though really.

Plenty people know rape/murder etc is wrong but they still do it, they're just not right in the head.

You can't cure an evil psycho by telling them it's wrong.

[Z]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Not really the point though really.

Plenty people know rape/murder etc is wrong but they still do it, they're just not right in the head.

You can't cure an evil psycho by telling them it's wrong.

I believe people can be deterred from doing things if they're scared enough of the consequences. I think there's still very much a prevailing attitude that a man can do whatever he likes to a woman and the consequences won't matter that much or he won't be found out.

[Marsh.]

But most people who are psycho enough to commit these brutal crimes aren't afraid of the consequences.

Of course they know the ramifications of their actions, they just don't care. If they did, they wouldn't be psycho.

I see what you mean, upbringing is a huge factor. But the majority of the people committing these crimes know full we'll what they're doing.

[Vanessa]

This is horrific! She's only 11 !

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

This is horrific! She's only 11 !

The most vulnerable are always the most likely to be victimized by these type of cowardly people.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by arista

GUILTY! Paedophile rapist, 18, met with a probation officer just 90 minutes before he raped an 11-year-old girl in a park





Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2QpvcVAlO

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...s-8578312.html


That 11 year old girl had to have surgery.

Evil Paedo - I hope he stays in Prison forever

Barstewert

[Cherie]

This was awful, he followed her off the bus and dragged her into a park, stripped her (it was November) and shoved a glove in her mouth, she was subjected to a 3 hour ordeal and the bastard didn't even admit it, so she had to testify via video link. This was the second time he had done it, he got 10 months in a Juvenile centre and was out in 5.

[Jack_]

This is sad, and because it's a teen (I know he's 18 but you know what I mean) on a pre-teen it does raise a lot more questions than if the perpetrator had been older. He committed a similar offence on a 12 year old girl when he was 16, why did he not receive some kind of psychological help? I think if you're sexually attracted to children at that age there's room for a little bit more help than if the guy had been in his 50's or something.

But yeah, doesn't excuse the case. Just a person with a lot of psychological issues.

[Nedusa]

Here we are again, how many times must we read about stories like this ? What is left to say that hasn't been said before ?

Rape , particularly this type of brutal child rape should not be classified as a crime in the normal sense of the word. People even misguided evil nasty low life's still know that this is crossing a line and in my opinion perpetrators of child rape like this need to be removed from society completely with no possibility of ever returning. They have the most serious psychopathic urges and as such are damaged goods. They can never be rehabilitated and as their crimes are so serious I believe it should be 1 strike and you're out. Removed from society for ever , no fuss no delay just removed never to be seen again.


Society needs to be protected from deranged psychos like these.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Jack_

This is sad, and because it's a teen (I know he's 18 but you know what I mean) on a pre-teen it does raise a lot more questions than if the perpetrator had been older. He committed a similar offence on a 12 year old girl when he was 16, why did he not receive some kind of psychological help? I think if you're sexually attracted to children at that age there's room for a little bit more help than if the guy had been in his 50's or something.

But yeah, doesn't excuse the case. Just a person with a lot of psychological issues.

Well all violent criminals have psychological issues. No one can hurt other people without having psychological issues. That goes without saying.

[Ryan57]

**** and Scum. Deserving of both words.

[Mystic Mock]

It's horrible what's happened, but there is only so many times this can be said as paedophiles get off more lightly with the law nowadays, especially since the paedophile is only a teenager, I'm not saying it's right, but the courts will go soft on him sadly.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Well all violent criminals have psychological issues. No one can hurt other people without having psychological issues. That goes without saying.

I know that and practically say so in every thread like this

[lostalex]

Well you make it sound like it's society's fault or something, that if they just got the right kind of psychological help then these types of crimes wouldn't happen.

I hate when people blame Society instead of blaming the individual.

[Jack_]

I never said that, but I think for the benefit of society and the person themselves, they should receive help once they've committed a crime, because when they're inevitably released I'd rather them have had at least some kind of rehabilitation and a chance of not re-offending, than just being thrown into a prison to meet harder criminals and be released again just to re-offend. I don't think we should just ignore people's psychological issues, if we address them we might in part resolve them.

But on a separate note, society does have a lot of influence on other crimes...just not necessarily this one. But that's a different debate.

[Mystic Mock]

Controversially I don't believe that all paedophiles are evil as they can't help who they fancy, but the people that act on those feelings can't be helped imo as they've got no restraint on themselves.

[lostalex]

Well most studies show that rape is not even about sex or "who you fancy" it's about getting off on power and control and abuse. They get off on abusing people, it doesn't have much to do with how the person looks or what the person looks like, it's just about getting off on ABUSE. That's why most rapists don't necessarily rape the prettiest girl, cause it's not about physical beauty in the conventional sense, they are getting off on the Abuse itself.

I watched an interesting documentary about rape recently, and it talked about how especially in male rape cases, it has nothing to do with attraction. Most men that are raped, are raped by Heterosexual men. SO rape has nothing to do with conventional sexuality or beauty, the rapist is getting off on the power and domination.

You'll often hear people say things like "well she couldn't have been raped, she's not PRETTY enuf to be raped". and that's total nonsense, cause it has nothing to do with physical attraction.

[Mystic Mock]

I suppose you're right Lostalex, I probably watch too many scripted TV Shows where it's always the girls that look like they've just come off a modelling shoot have been raped.

Anyway I believe that there should be a clinic for people that have the urge to rape a child but haven't done it yet, I believe they can be saved as they obviously don't want to commit a sex crime, and to make sure that they never get grassed up by any workers the workers punishment would be 15 years in Prison.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

I suppose you're right Lostalex, I probably watch too many scripted TV Shows where it's always the girls that look like they've just come off a modelling shoot have been raped.

Anyway I believe that there should be a clinic for people that have the urge to rape a child but haven't done it yet, I believe they can be saved as they obviously don't want to commit a sex crime, and to make sure that they never get grassed up by any workers the workers punishment would be 15 years in Prison.

why would you say that they don't want to commit a sex crime? obviously they did want to commit a sex crime. It's perfectly logical to assume that they would like to commit MORE sex crimes.

Oh i misread your comment, you are talking about people that have those urges but havn't done it yet? I guess i agree with you, but i don't think anyone with those urges is willing to submit themselves to any type of treatment. The stigma would be far to great, and once someone did admit to those urges, what happens if they go out and do it anyway? then the whole program would be discredited and everyone would blame the government for not locking those people up before they did commit the crime.

It would just take one person from that program to go out and rape or molest, and then the entire program would be under a firestorm of media criticism "WHY weren't these peadophiles looked up, why did the government not prevent this" etc etc... you can already imagine the Daily Mail headlines...

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Controversially I don't believe that all paedophiles are evil as they can't help who they fancy, but the people that act on those feelings can't be helped imo as they've got no restraint on themselves.

You're right on this one Mock.

Being a paedophile in the very definition of the word is not a psychological disorder, it's just socially unacceptable and highly unusual (much like most other types of paraphillia) and obviously must be difficult for anybody that is sexually attracted to children and has to (and does) refrain from acting on their urges, it only becomes a psychological issue when they are incapable of restraining themselves and go out and commit an obviously awful crime on a defenceless minor. The problem is is that you don't really get a lot of sympathy to those who can restrain themselves and don't act on their urges, and that side of it isn't really discussed much which I imagine only puts those people into a much more difficult position than they're already in...it's not as if you can 'come out' as a paedophile, the reaction would be one of sheer disgust, imagine how it must be feel to know you're attracted to people you shouldn't be and can't tell anyone and will most likely never be able to resolve it properly.

I made a thread about this a while back actually.

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...d.php?t=221535