[Kyle]

Do you feel a kinship with countrymen of other countries within the Union?

With the Scottish referendum coming soon I was wondering, do you guys feel that you are more akin to people within your countries or that we within the Union (or even the entire British Isles if your from the Republic and want to include yourself) all have a similar identity and special relationship.


Me personally, as an Englishman raised in England with a Scottish father I feel a sort of brotherly affection towards people from Scotland, Wales and Norn Ireland that I don't think I would share with any other nationalities.

I'm eager to get the thoughts of everyone on this and even non Brits if you feel you have a special kinship with certain nationalities please do share.

[fingers]

If your father is Scottish, then being born in England doesn't make you English, you're Scottish.

Strictly speaking, though, you are British.

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by fingers

If your father is Scottish, then being born in England doesn't make you English, you're Scottish.

Well for a start my father didn't crack me out of his hole i came out of my Mother who is ENGLISH but then again your looking for a reaction aren't you.....

[fingers]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

Well for a start my father didn't crack me out of his hole i came out of my Mother who is ENGLISH but then again your looking for a reaction aren't you.....

Not really, I'll leave you to your thread.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

Do you feel a kinship with countrymen of other countries within the Union?

With the Scottish referendum coming soon I was wondering, do you guys feel that you are more akin to people within your countries or that we within the Union (or even the entire British Isles if your from the Republic and want to include yourself) all have a similar identity and special relationship.


Me personally, as an Englishman raised in England with a Scottish father I feel a sort of brotherly affection towards people from Scotland, Wales and Norn Ireland that I don't think I would share with any other nationalities.

I'm eager to get the thoughts of everyone on this and even non Brits if you feel you have a special kinship with certain nationalities please do share.

I don't feel a kinship with any person on a geographical sense, really. Even people from the same City as me may as well be from a different planet. I feel more connected to people who have had similar life experiences to me and who have had to deal with the same issues as me, regardless of where they're from.

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by fingers

Not really, I'll leave you to your thread.

I never said you could leave, get back here and tell me if you feel a kinship or not!

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Verbal

I don't feel a kinship with any person on a geographical sense, really. Even people from the same City as me may as well be from a different planet. I feel more connected to people who have had similar life experiences to me and who have had to deal with the same issues as me, regardless of where they're from.

That's fair enough Verbal.

[smudgie]

If I see/hear someone from Yorkshire..North Yorkshire in particular or the North East in general then I feel we are from the same place and a sort of Kinship.
Consider myself English first and then British.

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by smudgie

If I see/hear someone from Yorkshire..North Yorkshire in particular or the North East in general then I feel we are from the same place and a sort of Kinship.
Consider myself English first and then British.

Do you not feel a kinship with us Yorkies of the southern variety?

It's all Gods country Smudgems!

[Lee.]

I'm Scottish. I yearn for my country to be independent. I feel kinship to English folk and Irish as my soon to be husband and his family are English, I love England and it's culture, and a lot of my ancestors are Irish .

[Kizzy]

I feel the Scottish and Irish have a kinship as they both hate the English

[Lee.]

That's not true kizzy.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by smudgie

If I see/hear someone from Yorkshire..North Yorkshire in particular or the North East in general then I feel we are from the same place and a sort of Kinship.
Consider myself English first and then British.

I kind of feel like this, feel a sense of 'kinship' with people from the same locality, then to a lesser extent with other English people, and then lesser than that to other British people from the other home countries

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Lee.

That's not true kizzy.

It's a teeny tiny bit true, anyway don't take my word for it... The Irish members will tell you

[lostalex]

i know this isn't exactly relevant to this specific topic, but i will say this...

As an American i don't feel any [particular kinship to Canadians or Mexicans, but if i hear Asians or Europeans slagging off Canadians or Mexicans, you better believe i will stick by my North American brothers if need be.

As compeditive as we are, the truth is, i do take pride when i see how successful Canada and Mexico are in different ways. if i have to choose between rooting for Canada or Britain? i choose canada every day of the week. if i have to choose between supporting Mexico or Brazil? i choose Mexico every day of the week.

North America, even though there is no real formal union between our countries, i still am proud of our continent, and i love my frosty pale neighbors to the north, and my sun kissed angry neighbors to the south. At the end of the day, we have a pretty damn good continent. I think we are the continent that has been at peace for the longest amount of time.

[Kizzy]

I wish I were Canadian... They sound ace, quite unemotional and stoic, I have a kinship with them

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by lostalex

i know this isn't exactly relevant to this specific topic, but i will say this...

As an American i don't feel any [particular kinship to Canadians or Mexicans, but if i hear Asians or Europeans slagging off Canadians or Mexicans, you better believe i will stick by my North American brothers if need be.

As compeditive as we are, the truth is, i do take pride when i see how successful Canada and Mexico are in different ways. if i have to choose between rooting for Canada or Britain? i choose canada every day of the week. if i have to choose between supporting Mexico or Brazil? i choose Mexico every day of the week.

North America, even though there is no real formal union between our countries, i still am proud of our continent, and i love my frosty pale neighbors to the north, and my sun kissed angry neighbors to the south. At the end of the day, we have a pretty damn good continent. I think we are the continent that has been at peace for the longest amount of time.

Would you say the US and Canada are a lot closer than either of them are to Mexico though?

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

Do you not feel a kinship with us Yorkies of the southern variety?

It's all Gods country Smudgems!

It is all God's county...just know the Northern part the best, but a Yorkie is a Yorkie

[Kizzy]

West is best smudge!
Leeds! Leeds! Leeds!

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Would you say the US and Canada are a lot closer than either of them are to Mexico though?

As a Californian, i wouldn't say that, no. but people in other parts of America might feel differently, but here in California, it's hard not to know a lot of Mexicans, and they are generally great people. I'm sure people closer to the northern Border would say the same about Canadians.

Anyone who has a bad word to say about Mexican or Canadian immigrants obviously hasn't met many Mexicans or canadians. That's my opinion.

I think the USA got very lucky to have 2 very awesome neighbors.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Lee.

That's not true kizzy.

My son was shouting for England in the last match against Poland, he's a big Liverpool supporter so Gerard scoring was almost better than Ireland beating Kazakhstan

[Ammi]

...no, not really, I don't think I feel any sort of 'kinship' to anyone, other than perhaps if they come from/know a particular part in the UK that I might be familiar with also, you have 'something in common' that you can talk about but then their views on something could be different to mine..my dad was Irish so I have visited Ireland many times because of that but that only gives me that kinship to members of my own family who still live there because obviously they are my kin...I feel bonds/connections etc to people through talking to them and them as people, rather than areas/regions where they come from...

[Z]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I feel the Scottish and Irish have a kinship as they both hate the English

Hate is such a strong word... disdain is probably a better one like I have English friends and I don't think I have any active negative feelings towards England, but put me in certain scenarios (sports as an example) and it all comes spilling out

I dunno what it is, like obviously it's a learned behaviour from older generations but I couldn't even explain what it is specifically that makes a Scottish person anti-English and why it's so selective... one of my best friends is English, I don't hate him or his family, it's never once crossed my mind "oh he's English I hate him" or anything like that.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

West is best smudge!
Leeds! Leeds! Leeds!

All one big happy family.

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by smudgie

All one big happy family.

Not in Sheffield

We consider Leeds the arse of Yorkshire