[Colbert-Bump]

I don't think Ash is all that bad but Matthew was very unlucky to be evicted last night.

[Vanessa]

They don't. That's why they booed and chanted Ashleigh.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by bobnot

She can be whatever she wants to be but it seems she has chose to be a sour faced corner dweller with nothing but spite and bitchiness coming out of her.

In reaction to the behaviour of others. But in an increasingly conformist society that has no standards people will end up only ever criticizing those who aren't enjoying themselves enough when they're surrounded by people who let it all hang out in the most degenerate manner. No wonder the British have such a bad reputation abroad.

If thats what you see as the behaviour of a strong independent woman then i dont know what to say Videostar.

Her own opinion is enough for her. She doesn't feel the need to debase herself so as to not be a threat to others by trying to fit in with those who spend their evenings talking about their tedious sexual exploits. She is not at all intimidated by a 27 yeard old hardfaced woman (or her cronies) who have been absolutely vicious towards others and who is, frustratingly, there until the end unless something happens.

Seems like a tough cookie to me.

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

In reaction to the behaviour of others. But in an increasingly conformist society that has no standards people will end up only ever criticizing those who aren't enjoying themselves enough when they're surrounded by people who let it all hang out in the most degenerate manner. No wonder the British have such a bad reputation abroad.




Her own opinion is enough for her. She doesn't feel the need to debase herself so as to not be a threat to others by trying to fit in with those who spend their evenings talking about their tedious sexual exploits. She is not at all intimidated by a 27 yeard old hardfaced woman (or her cronies) who have been absolutely vicious towards others and who is, frustratingly, there until the end unless something happens.

Seems like a tough cookie to me.

What's wrong with lighthearted sex talk? It's all part and parcel of mint banter. Do you prefer bitching? I cannot think of any conversation Ashleigh has had in that house that didn't involve bitching about one of the other housemates. Why doesn't she just loosen up and get involved. The lads would love to hear some of Ashleigh's mint banter

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Achilles

What's wrong with lighthearted sex talk?

On National television? Talk so extreme its been reported that its unbroadcastable.

It's all part and parcel of mint banter. Do you prefer bitching?

If the target of the bitching/criticism is legitimate, yes.

I cannot think of any conversation Ashleigh has had in that house that didn't involve bitching about one of the other housemates.

Yes, but aren't you suspicious of that?

Why doesn't she just loosen up and get involved. The lads would love to hear some of Ashleigh's mint banter

Why doesn't she get with the program and degrade and debase herself by swimming in the sewage that others seem to live in? Gee, let me think.

[waterhog]

Originally Posted by jet

Like Helen and Ash? Was it just because an 18 yr old Irish girl took them on and they couldn't let her win?

Otherwise, I can't see any other reason....

i agree - i am totally backing ashleigh because of the reasons you said. she is so advanced for 18.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

No its because she's turned into a bitter little bunny boiler.

Very ungrateful and doesn't even want to be there, should we back a housemate and vote for her when she openly says she cant wait to get out of that **** hole or cant wait to get evicted and is going to smash up every camera to make sure she is?

Well said Daniel. Hopefully she gets her wish this coming week.

[GypsyGoth]

I think siding with Ashleigh might have been a step too far for the viewers. Her type of vindictiveness is best kept for revenge films, it's not a way to win over neutral viewers.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

No its because she's turned into a bitter little bunny boiler.

A bunny boiler? Seriously. And being fed up can be interpreted as being "bitter", but the question remains - does she have a legitimate complaint? I would say yes.

Very ungrateful and doesn't even want to be there

What's there to be grateful for? They've contrived drama, given a vicious bully a free pass to the final which they won't take away and the house is half full of a bunch of people whose conversations about sex begin to resemble animal grunts.

should we back a housemate and vote for her when she openly says she cant wait to get out of that **** hole or cant wait to get evicted and is going to smash up every camera to make sure she is?

We have before.

[Robodog]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

But Ashleigh was the only one to stand up against the nasties in there. How can anyone hate her for that???

I don't understand it...

Standing up to the nasties is not the problem, it's the way she delivered the message that rubbed people up the wrong way. She was too smug with it and ended up looking as bitter as the people she went against!

The best way she could have done it was like Chris when he had the power - he managed to express his dislike of Pauline - and get her evicted - without being either smug or bitter.

So sadly for Ashleigh it was not the message - but the delivery that let her down. Such is the nature of BB.

It's not so much what you say - but how you say it.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by jet

I agree with you that it was Ash v Ashleigh. But the viewers knew that it was between Ash and Matthew and why they would put Matthew out just to spite Ashleigh makes me sick. They could easily get rid of Ashleigh as soon as she is up. Why make Matthew the victim of their bile?

Jet it's the exact same way as people trying to get Ash out to get one up on Helen

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

But Ashleigh was the only one to stand up against the nasties in there. How can anyone hate her for that???

I don't understand it...

Ashleigh never stood up to anyone, she planned something that failed behind everyone's back fgs. And to add to that she got so bitter and smug whilst doing it that it turned the public off of her.

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

I think siding with Ashleigh might have been a step too far for the viewers. Her type of vindictiveness is best kept for revenge films, it's not a way to win over neutral viewers.

This.

[kefln]

That makes sense.

If you sit in the corner, surrounded by "friends" smoking generally, or directly, insulting women, making faces, but are a good looking man, you are safe.

If you sit in the corner making complaints about how horrible some of your HMs are - discussing things that have been seen on the HLS - making faces, but are a girl, then you are "hated".


If you are an "attractive" male and do nothing but smoke, bitch and take your top off, you are "entertaining".

If you are female, don't smoke and bitch, then you are out....

Got to love logic...

[Verbal]

Matthew went because of guilt through association, and the fact that he was a boring, wet pompous bastard. The Helen haters are fans of that phrase. How does it feel having it used against your favourite?

[Razor]

If this was USA BB Ashleigh would be praised.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Verbal

It is funny that the people who claim to hate 'the bully, nasty, evil bitch' Helen. Come out and make threads that make them exactly what they purport to hate.

So you are calling people on this forum nasty, evil bitches and bullies. wow.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by Razor

If this was USA BB Ashleigh would be praised.

Thank god it isn't because bbus is a bag of dog spunk.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by jet

So you are calling people on this forum nasty, evil bitches and bullies. wow.

I'm referring to the titles of the threads that are generally against Helen. Take this one for example 'Why do the GBP reward vile bullies and arrogant pricks?'

It is hardly a title Gandhi would approve of, is it?

[rionablue]

Ashleigh sealed her fate in my eyes when she attacked Kimberly who didn't deserve to be attacked ( I mean by the bitching and horrible name calling behind her back) And the final nail in her coffin was when she told Steven ( who is a real creep and I cant understand why Kim spends any time with him) that he could do ALOT BETTER than Kim and she said this in earshot of the other housemates. Ashleigh is jealous of Kim simple as!!!! Kim was a friend to her for the first few weeks and now Ashleigh has turned on her just cos Kim wanted to spend time with the other housemates (not just Helen either)

[Razor]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Thank god it isn't because bbus is a bag of dog spunk.

In your opinion, I think its bloody awesome.