[Vicky.]

I dont think I have ever seen pink beef :S

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Who was saying that humans are the closest to pork?.... hmmmmm?

It was Livia, she said she sometimes eats teenagers because she loves bacon but pigs aren't kosher. Something like that. That's basically what I remember from that thread anyway.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I dont think I have ever seen pink beef :S

A lot of butchers beef is quite pinky, supermarket beef tends to be bright red. However, I'm lead to believe that supermarkets actually often add extra red colouring to cheap meat cuts to make it look juicier / more appealing. Not sure how accurate that is though. Can't be bovered googling. (Get it? Bothered? Bovered? Bovine...? )

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It was Livia, she said she sometimes eats teenagers because she loves bacon but pigs aren't kosher. Something like that. That's basically what I remember from that thread anyway.

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...rk#post7518745


Ahem... awaits apology

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Because if alarmed they will be in "fight or flight" mode resulting in more blood being in the muscle tissue that gets sliced n diced to make yummy yummy steak... One would assume.

Yes, you assume right - that is exactly the reason. A lot of butchers actually dye red meat products with cochineal or similar red colouring to make it more appealing to shoppers.

[DemolitionRed]

Its something to do with low levels of glycogen. That healthy unstressed animals have a naturally high glycogen content and glycogen levels are evident in the colour of the meat after slaughter, but if the animal is stressed prior or during slaughter the glycogen levels deplete making the meat a deep red in colour.

Any biologists in the house?

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...rk#post7518745


Ahem... awaits apology

I stand corrected Kizzy! Though it was Livia who used the term long pork. And I think something about how she'll cook youngsters for house guests but doesn't eat them herself because they're too cute.

[DemolitionRed]

Supermarkets put carbon monoxide in their meat so it keeps its colour.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Supermarkets put carbon monoxide in their meat so it keeps its colour.

Sounds delicious...

I tried googling all about beef and stumbled across a guy comparing a massive, juicy grass fed steak to supermarket steak. He makes it sound so delicious. But I have flu and I literally can't taste anything at all... This is just depressing. What I wouldn't give to taste anything at all! This description of mouth watering organic beef is like torture.

[Toy Soldier]

Just realised I've come into a thread about unethical animal slaughter, and ended up craving steak.

[Northern Monkey]

Well.....I'm stunned

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Sounds delicious...

I tried googling all about beef and stumbled across a guy comparing a massive, juicy grass fed steak to supermarket steak. He makes it sound so delicious. But I have flu and I literally can't taste anything at all... This is just depressing. What I wouldn't give to taste anything at all! This description of mouth watering organic beef is like torture.

Hope you're feeling better soon.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I stand corrected Kizzy! Though it was Livia who used the term long pork. And I think something about how she'll cook youngsters for house guests but doesn't eat them herself because they're too cute.

That's an outrageous slur.

I will eat teenagers, but only Jewish ones... so long as they're not cute. Like lambs.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I eat meat and enjoy it, and I don't plan to stop anytime soon. I don't think this means I can't find the act of making damn sure the animal feels the pain as its being killed disgusting

My sentiments exactly.
I also like to think my meal has had a decent life as well.free range and outdoor bred all the way if possible.



If we were all vegetarians then most of these animals would not be born, they are bred to feed us all.

[LeatherTrumpet]

there are plenty on here that dream of a large piece of meat sliding down their throats


and that is before they have dinner

[jennyjuniper]

I'm a vegetarian, but I don't try to stop others eating meat. It's a personal choice. However I would ask that whenever possible buy eggs and meat raised on ecological farms. They still have to die, I realise that, but at least until then their lives are kinder and more enjoyable.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by jennyjuniper

I'm a vegetarian, but I don't try to stop others eating meat. It's a personal choice. However I would ask that whenever possible buy eggs and meat raised on ecological farms. They still have to die, I realise that, but at least until then their lives are kinder and more enjoyable.

See I think people should go with the taste angle more. The ethics angle will persuade a few to put their hands deeper into their pockets... But for most, "cheapness" wins out.

However, it is also true that organic beef raised in fields eating grass instead of eating grain in a barn tastes SO much better. Free range eggs taste a lot better than caged hen eggs too. People will pay more for better tasting food...

Unfortunately, I find free range chicken meat to be a bit scrawny / tough compared to its artificially bloated mass farmed counterpart. I prefer a nice blank miserable chook for something like a curry. Sorry chickens. Then again, my empathy for animals (which isn't huge to begin with) pretty much ends with mammals. I couldn't really give a stuff about "bird welfare"... A chicken has more DNA in common with a lettuce or a '03 Vauxhall Astra than it does with a human. That is a fact.

Although what really gets my goat, is when people start going into "insect rights". I mean come onnn...

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

there are plenty on here that dream of a large piece of meat sliding down their throats


and that is before they have dinner

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

it wasnt just you i thought of

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

it wasnt just you i thought of

Spill then LT. Who?

[farhad]

Trying to ban halal meat is what exactly Hitler did to the jewish community, where he banned kosher. I can see the the exact similarities. Its been scientifically proven that the halal slaughter causes leastest pain to the animal, and imo its the most humane method. the guidline states that the knife should be very sharp and should be done away from the presences of other animals so it doesn't scare them.

[farhad]

Being stunned causes animals to suffer longer painful death and its not humane at all, if you want to attack the muslims then have the balls to attack the jewish kosher, both exactly the same principle. do your research done by german dietry institutions, in comparison to stunning and halal slaughter, hala slaughter the graph showed 0 pain signals, and in the slaughter we don't cut the whole head of, we cut the vessels of the windwipe,neck etc is cut and the pain signal responsible for pain is terminated. Animal does not die of pain, it dies of painless death.

[Dave600]

"Being stunned causes animals to suffer longer painful death and its not humane at all"

What nonsense, please provide evidence to back that up. Below is the CSIRO's findings which are the exact opposite to your claim. Essentially their findings found stunning removed all pain yet slaughter without stunning resulted in pain for periods between 10 and 30 seconds.

"However, EEG measurements indicated that animals in the unstunned slaughter group were likely to have experienced conscious pain up to 30 seconds post slaughter."

http://www.mla.com.au/Research-and-d...eef-Cattle/935

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

it wasnt just you i thought of

[Johnnyuk123]

A spokesperson for the Department for the Environment, Food, and Rural Affairs (DEFRA) said: “The government has no intention of banning religious slaughter. The government would prefer animals to be stunned before slaughter, but we respect the rights of Jewish and Muslim communities to eat meat in accordance with their beliefs.”

I would agree with this but ONLY if my rights to purchase none halal meat were respected by both communities which sadly it is not.