[sampvt]

People seems to think that the winner comes from their fans voting........wrong........Let me explain.

In the house there are groups. The biggest group is the fab 4 with Callum, Michele, Hoppo and Kav.

The next group is non existent because KP, cheggars and Perez fight alone.

Once one member of a group gets oiked, his or her supporters align themselves to another member of her group, so Camis vots will now go to either Callum, Hoppo or maybe Michele.

If KP gets oiked, the votes disappear because her supports wont vote for anyone else because she wasn't aligned to a group.

If you think of it logically......Hoppo cant loose because she has 4 fan bases in Kav, cami, Michele and Callum to pick votes up from.

THAT MY FRIENDS IS WHY HOPPO WILL WIN, not because cheggars is a nice guy, or that Perez is entertaining, or why KP deserves the spot because of her fans because they are not in large numbers fans of the show.

Hoppo will win because she has a big group of fans behind her that are supporters of the Mean girls alignment. Now please re think your tactics as they are based on a flawed business model.

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by sampvt

People seems to think that the winner comes from their fans voting........wrong........Let me explain.

In the house there are groups. The biggest group is the fab 4 with Callum, Michele, Hoppo and Kav.

The next group is non existent because KP, cheggars and Perez fight alone.

Once one member of a group gets oiked, his or her supporters align themselves to another member of her group, so Camis vots will now go to either Callum, Hoppo or maybe Michele.

If KP gets oiked, the votes disappear because her supports wont vote for anyone else because she wasn't aligned to a group.

If you think of it logically......Hoppo cant loose because she has 4 fan bases in Kav, cami, Michele and Callum to pick votes up from.

THAT MY FRIENDS IS WHY HOPPO WILL WIN, not because cheggars is a nice guy, or that Perez is entertaining, or why KP deserves the spot because of her fans because they are not in large numbers fans of the show.

Hoppo will win because she has a big group of fans behind her that are supporters of the Mean girls alignment. Now please re think your tactics as they are based on a flawed business model.

Have you though factored in all the Perez (so called) team that have left. Nadia's, Alicia's fans may still vote.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by abhorson

Have you though factored in all the Perez (so called) team that have left. Nadia's, Alicia's fans may still vote.

Those voters have already aligned themselves to others but its hard to see Perez getting votes from anyone other than Nadia and when you look at it objectively, If they are no longer in the house, their fan bases and voters cant have been that strong anyway so if you look at Camis votes and Nadias votes. Cami obviously had more voters than Nadia because Nadia went first and cami beat her in the votes market.

Hence the votes Hoppos group gets, will be greater than that of perez's and Cheggars. Its all in the group vote because members andf fans of that group wont let any other party win so Hoppos fans might be made up of Michele and cami loosers.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Those voters have already aligned themselves to others but its hard to see Perez getting votes from anyone other than Nadia and when you look at it objectively, If they are no longer in the house, their fan bases and voters cant have been that strong anyway so if you look at Camis votes and Nadias votes. Cami obviously had more voters than Nadia because Nadia went first and cami beat her in the votes market.

Hence the votes Hoppos group gets, will be greater than that of perez's and Cheggars. Its all in the group vote because members andf fans of that group wont let any other party win so Hoppos fans might be made up of Michele and cami loosers.

Cami wasn't up when Nadia went though

[bots]

i don't think its that simple either. And lets not forget that the bookies are about people betting, nothing more, its votes that count.

I don't agree at all that a group picks up all the groups fans, particularly in this series.. None of the hm's are true friends with each other, they know it and we know it, it is allegiance of convenience. Nothing more.

The majority of housemates know that they don't stand a cat in hells chance against keith or katie price, so they have banded together to try and get them out. That strategy has completely failed as they are still there and they know it, thats why KH was so pissed that Cami got evicted. Its no longer in her control, its over to the public, and she has annoyed her fair share of them.

I can see many of the public voting so that Perez or KH don't win, i don't think the same applies to KP or Keith, and that is what will make the difference in the end

[sampvt]

Just to make this post easier to understand.... For example....Hoppos group, which consisted of 5 people had maybe 100,000 votes combined. Hoppo had say 40,000 of these votes as the matriac. as her siblings fall away, she will pick up votes from them so when cami, michee and Kav go, the 100,000 votes from that group will support Callum and hoppo, so the weaker the group gets by evictions, the stronger the surviving members f that group gets.

Perez votes wont go anywhere, Priceys votes defo wont go to Perez or Hoppo so Cheggars is running for the line with what he has now, Hoppo will get votes by default from the mean girls fans as the line gets closer. That's why I win money I this show, I follow the dynamics, not the nice guy image or deserved ones.

[MTVN]

I don't know, I think it can be too easy to assume that voters fall into rigid patterns defined by who was friends with their favourite, it's not at all guaranteed that those who support, say, Calum will by default support KH, voting trends can be a lot more individualistic than often made out. I voted for Cami but I'm not going to vote for any of the others because I just don't care that much about them and because I never really like 'teams' or 'groups' in BB. IMO the only ones who might really share a significant fan base are KH and Michelle because they are very obviously a tight knit friendship, but even then I'm sure there's plenty of Michelle fans who are not that keen on Hopkins.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by sampvt

People seems to think that the winner comes from their fans voting........wrong........Let me explain.

In the house there are groups. The biggest group is the fab 4 with Callum, Michele, Hoppo and Kav.

The next group is non existent because KP, cheggars and Perez fight alone.

Once one member of a group gets oiked, his or her supporters align themselves to another member of her group, so Camis vots will now go to either Callum, Hoppo or maybe Michele.

If KP gets oiked, the votes disappear because her supports wont vote for anyone else because she wasn't aligned to a group.

If you think of it logically......Hoppo cant loose because she has 4 fan bases in Kav, cami, Michele and Callum to pick votes up from.

THAT MY FRIENDS IS WHY HOPPO WILL WIN, not because cheggars is a nice guy, or that Perez is entertaining, or why KP deserves the spot because of her fans because they are not in large numbers fans of the show.

Hoppo will win because she has a big group of fans behind her that are supporters of the Mean girls alignment. Now please re think your tactics as they are based on a flawed business model.

Cami has fans?
Kav has fans?

Not sure what it says about us a nation if she wins. Embarrassing.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Cami has fans?
Kav has fans?

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Cami has fans?
Kav has fans?

Not sure what it says about us a nation if she wins. Embarrassing.

How else was she saved when she was up?

[VanessaFeltz.]

Originally Posted by MrWong

How else was she saved when she was up?

Because patsy had like 5 votes to save? :S

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by MelihV

Because patsy had like 5 votes to save? :S

I liked Patsy, she's a doll. A dull housemate though.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by MrWong

I liked Patsy, she's a doll. A dull housemate though.

You're not Wong!

[ozzyshaggah]

yes camis fans rallied and saved her

[Stevep]

Originally Posted by sampvt

People seems to think that the winner comes from their fans voting........wrong........Let me explain.

In the house there are groups. The biggest group is the fab 4 with Callum, Michele, Hoppo and Kav.

The next group is non existent because KP, cheggars and Perez fight alone.

Once one member of a group gets oiked, his or her supporters align themselves to another member of her group, so Camis vots will now go to either Callum, Hoppo or maybe Michele.

If KP gets oiked, the votes disappear because her supports wont vote for anyone else because she wasn't aligned to a group.

If you think of it logically......Hoppo cant loose because she has 4 fan bases in Kav, cami, Michele and Callum to pick votes up from.

THAT MY FRIENDS IS WHY HOPPO WILL WIN, not because cheggars is a nice guy, or that Perez is entertaining, or why KP deserves the spot because of her fans because they are not in large numbers fans of the show.

Hoppo will win because she has a big group of fans behind her that are supporters of the Mean girls alignment. Now please re think your tactics as they are based on a flawed business model.

That may be true for a small section of the BB viewing audience, but imo the general BB audience are not as fanatical as that and will very likely not have their thoughts dictated by the HMs they like in the house. And rightly so.

[abhorson]

Once someones fave is out imo they are more likely not to vote again though Sam. Although this season may be different because of Perez and HK.

So you are probably on the right track with the KH win.

[Withano]

I'm nt sure if being on this forum too long has turned me into an old conspiracy theorist cynic but that made complete sense to me Sampvt.

Probably the reason why Nadia could survive and possibly top a Perez-less eviction round but leave the week later too

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Withano

I'm nt sure if being on this forum too long has turned me into an old conspiracy theorist cynic but that made complete sense to me Sampvt.

Probably the reason why Nadia could survive and possibly top a Perez-less eviction round but leave the week later too

If Perez was oiked the first week, Nadia could and probably would have won. She was better at handling hoppo than Perez is. Nobody likes a smart ass and Nadia sealed her own fate by doing one thing wrong, she backed the wrong horse.

[nim136]

This may explain how Helen Wood won. *Shudders* Just mentioning her name makes me sick!