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Old 05-02-2015, 10:52 AM #1
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I mean what do you think her aim was in CBB? Did she go in just wanting the pay cheque or did she want to make the public like her? And if so isn't that going to effect her "career" which needs people to dislike her? Or is she planning a change of direction in career when she gets out do you think?

hhhmmm lots of questions Basically do you think she was aiming to go in and stay disliked (or become more disliked) or to change the publics view on herself?
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Her game plan failed and it was to be a nasty bitch but it became obvious it was all a act
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I think she will be much in demand but she will not be as acerbic or foolhardy in future. I think she has learned a lot and has shown a very caring soft side

Its been a journey for her but its been a good one
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I think she will be much in demand but she will not be as acerbic or foolhardy in future. I think she has learned a lot and has shown a very caring soft side

Its been a journey for her but its been a good one
That's not going to be good for her "career" though. She's not even a very articulate speaker or decent debater from what we've seen in there. All she was getting by on before she went in was her childish and nasty outbursts
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pretty sure she did it for the pay check and the self publicity. Her money will come from the dirt she dishes out on them on leaving the house
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pretty sure she did it for the pay check and the self publicity. Her money will come from the dirt she dishes out on them on leaving the house
yeah, I reckon she'll go back to being exactly what she was before, I honestly don't think she's capable of being anything else.
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I think it was a big risk for her to go in the house because her 'profile' is at it's highest at the moment. Big Brother can ruin a person's career (ie, Jade in CBB) but I don't think Hopkins has anything to worry about. She'll go back to her gigs that Katie had before going in the house.
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the "breakup" with her and Michelle leaves the door open for her to even bad mouth her.

I said this before, but I feel this series smacked of scripting more than any i've previously seen. I'm not falling for it any more , there will be no more votes from me.

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I think it was a big risk for her to go in the house because her 'profile' is at it's highest at the moment. Big Brother can ruin a person's career (ie, Jade in CBB) but I don't think Hopkins has anything to worry about. She'll go back to her gigs that Katie had before going in the house.
She wouldn't have as much to lose as Jade had though, Jade was successful because people liked her, Katie is the opposite. It's much much harder to get people to like you again then it is to get them to dislike you again
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Sure she did it for the money like all of them.I get the impression she also wanted to be seen by a wider audience to promote a TV career.I think she may have succeeded.
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Sure she did it for the money like all of them.I get the impression she also wanted to be seen by a wider audience to promote a TV career.I think she may have succeeded.
That makes sense, she will come out of BB In a much better position.
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She did say it was for the pay cheque, to pay for her kids school fees.
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Well she said her paycheck was to cover private school fees or something, but that might have just been a dig at Pricey.

I don't know really. I think she has a real need for fame and attention. Maybe she wanted to just be herself in the house and see if the public liked her and accepted her for who she truly is warts and all.

Much and all as I don't care for her, we have seen a few times where she is a bit more normal, or where she has seemed well liked by friends and funny. I personally feel this all gets overshadowed though by the times she is too nasty and mean and by the way she never seems happy unless she has at least one person in the house who she is not getting along with who she can bitch about and argue and bicker with constantly. She really does seem to have a need to argue with someone. It's like she thrives of it and it's her fuel for life. I think she would be miserable and bored in a peaceful happy house where she had nothing to disagree with. At least longterm anyways, she might be ok with it for a few days.

She's supposed to be somebody who just says what she thinks and doesn't care who it offends etc., but I really feel it's the attention more than anything that she craves. Lots of people are very opinionated with unpopular opinions but not many would want to be in the public eye and make a column or tweets about their opinion even if they were offered. Not necessary out of cowardice but maybe because they just value their privacy.

I think a lot of celebrities have a very strong need for attention and crave it from a large audience. Just their friends and family wouldn't be enough. I feel this more about people who are famous for things like just being party animals, or looking good, or being controversial, or reality tv. Not so much as for genuinely good singers or actors or artists as these are skills. It's not always a bad thing, some z listers are lovely just crave attention, others if they can't get that attention for looking really stunning or having an interesting life or nice personality, might use more nasty or over the top controversial means to get that attention they desire.

I would love, love, love the experience of doing civilian big brother but would never do it because I absolutely hate the idea of ever being even slightly in the public eye and open for judgement from such a large audience. I would hate for my family or friends to be approached by tabloids looking for dirt, I would hate for forums full of people describing me as "boring" or worse mean comments, I would hate stories about my past or my family being in the papers, I would hate snaps being taken of me for magazines or blogs that commented on what I was wearing, or my relationship with my boyfriend etc., I would hate being recognisable walking down the street, I would also worry that it would effect my career prospects in science.
Being famous for a scientific breakthrough I would be ok with as the tabloids don't follow them around!, but in general I like my anonymity.

Katie Hopkins and some other celebs seem the opposite to this. Katie has been on the Apprentice, I'm a celebrity, Big Brother and we also know that she auditioned for the very first series of BB too so it would seem she has always wanted to be in the public eye in some way. Again I don't have a problem with this, many celebs I like are similar, just maybe when it was exposed that Katie had an affair with 3 married men which 7 children were affected by, that she thought "well I'm never going to be liked for being a nice person so might as well not hold back" and get her attention for being controversial instead.

Although she gets such criticism for her opinions, she also does get a lot of support too which then of course makes her believe that she is a voice that says what others are afraid to. It gives her a purpose in her own mind at least, and also the attention she craves.

Maybe with BB she wanted to show that there was more to her than just the title of homewrecker or bitch or whatever. I don't think she wanted everyone to think she was nice and that she didn't really mean the things she said, because I believe she probably does fully believe a lot of what she says. I think it's more that she wants people to see that yes she IS opinionated and has controversial opinions, but that there is also more to her like her sense of humour etc and that she can show kindness to some people.

This seemed to have worked quite well for her in fairness as many people are thinking this about her. For others, her behaviour in the house has just confirmed she is still a cow a lot of the time. It's just how people will differ in opinion on how they judge her actions in there.

I never gave a fcuk about her beforehand, just saw her as an irritating attention seeking fly really that I never gave much thought too or was hugely bothered by. In the house at first she just reinforced this idea I had of her when she gave crap insults on opening night, and the way she used to do over the top hand motions and panto in the diary room for the first week few days. Cami Li always angered me more because she was just so vicious and aggressive in the way she spat out her insults and the snappy fingers "bitch" thing.

However Hopkins hasn't endeared herself to me either. Yeah at first I just thought of her as an eejit really, but I've seen how unnecessarily cruel she can be too, particularly to Alicia. I've seen how she will try to pick at and argue with quieter people who are not looking for trouble like Alicia,Patsy and Keith until she can make them react. I just think if that's how you need to get your attention, then sorry but not a huge fan.
(I never minded her arguments with Perez and Nadia as much because they both seem to love arguing too although sometimes she just never knew when to let something go with Perez and would antagonise him even though she told everybody to ignore him, I also didn't agree with her trying to get everybody to isolate him either - she had no right to dictate to others what to do in the aim of making someone she didn't like uncomfortable)

So yeah sorry I've rambled on far too much, but I think her reasons are mainly validation from the public that she can be a controversial cow but that she also has a nicer side too, and the attention too of course that she feeds of.
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Great post Peggy, i really enjoyed that, it made a lot of sense to me, I feel very similarly to you on all of those points
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Great post Peggy, i really enjoyed that, it made a lot of sense to me, I feel very similarly to you on all of those points
Thanks Niamh, I ended up typing way more than I meant to and probably went a little off topic a few times!
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yeah, I reckon she'll go back to being exactly what she was before, I honestly don't think she's capable of being anything else.
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I believe Katie wants to win and she entered the BB house with that intention. The need to win overshadows anything else in Katie's world and she's admitted that in various interviews. Failure isn't an option and she will view coming out 5th, 4th, 3rd or 2nd as failure.

She sees her biggest competition in Michelle and Parez (though he's now out of the way) and this is why we saw her hedging her bets and making friends with Parez and also the reason we saw her talking about Michelle's need to win in the diary room yesterday. Out of every one left, Katie is hungry to win this last hurdle and come out of this with the crown because the crown opens up so many more doors to her.

All publicity is good unless it involves something really controversial like racism. On that score, Katie has kept her nose clean.
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A regular BOTS spot to add to her regular This Morning spots. Keep the pay cheques coming.

In all seriousness, I think her game plan was initially to get the money and either say the odd controversial thing/keep her head down. She probably wasn't expecting the Perez factor, the fact that she'd come across quite well. Now, her plan is to win, without a doubt.
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Money and more things to talk about when she's done. I can't wait for the "lol. The British Public is so stupid. They voted me to win when they hated me" articles and tweets.
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She wouldn't have as much to lose as Jade had though, Jade was successful because people liked her, Katie is the opposite. It's much much harder to get people to like you again then it is to get them to dislike you again
Jade was initially disliked, she was branded 'miss piggy' by the media and it stuck, it was them that turned public perception as they had turned her into a hate figure well before CBB.
The public are fickle and can be influenced easily.
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i'm sure katie h won't mind me recycling this famous quote.............

............the lady is not for turning

i feel she has done good ..........who? would have imagined such popularity

in the house

a good career choice................and well paid....well played!

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The public are fickle and can be influenced easily.
From what i remember she was loved before she went into CBB by alot of people. She was a proper brand much like Katie P
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I mean what do you think her aim was in CBB? Did she go in just wanting the pay cheque or did she want to make the public like her? And if so isn't that going to effect her "career" which needs people to dislike her? Or is she planning a change of direction in career when she gets out do you think?

hhhmmm lots of questions Basically do you think she was aiming to go in and stay disliked (or become more disliked) or to change the publics view on herself?
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Well she said her paycheck was to cover private school fees or something, but that might have just been a dig at Pricey.

I don't know really. I think she has a real need for fame and attention. Maybe she wanted to just be herself in the house and see if the public liked her and accepted her for who she truly is warts and all.

Much and all as I don't care for her, we have seen a few times where she is a bit more normal, or where she has seemed well liked by friends and funny. I personally feel this all gets overshadowed though by the times she is too nasty and mean and by the way she never seems happy unless she has at least one person in the house who she is not getting along with who she can bitch about and argue and bicker with constantly. She really does seem to have a need to argue with someone. It's like she thrives of it and it's her fuel for life. I think she would be miserable and bored in a peaceful happy house where she had nothing to disagree with. At least longterm anyways, she might be ok with it for a few days.

She's supposed to be somebody who just says what she thinks and doesn't care who it offends etc., but I really feel it's the attention more than anything that she craves. Lots of people are very opinionated with unpopular opinions but not many would want to be in the public eye and make a column or tweets about their opinion even if they were offered. Not necessary out of cowardice but maybe because they just value their privacy.

I think a lot of celebrities have a very strong need for attention and crave it from a large audience. Just their friends and family wouldn't be enough. I feel this more about people who are famous for things like just being party animals, or looking good, or being controversial, or reality tv. Not so much as for genuinely good singers or actors or artists as these are skills. It's not always a bad thing, some z listers are lovely just crave attention, others if they can't get that attention for looking really stunning or having an interesting life or nice personality, might use more nasty or over the top controversial means to get that attention they desire.

I would love, love, love the experience of doing civilian big brother but would never do it because I absolutely hate the idea of ever being even slightly in the public eye and open for judgement from such a large audience. I would hate for my family or friends to be approached by tabloids looking for dirt, I would hate for forums full of people describing me as "boring" or worse mean comments, I would hate stories about my past or my family being in the papers, I would hate snaps being taken of me for magazines or blogs that commented on what I was wearing, or my relationship with my boyfriend etc., I would hate being recognisable walking down the street, I would also worry that it would effect my career prospects in science.
Being famous for a scientific breakthrough I would be ok with as the tabloids don't follow them around!, but in general I like my anonymity.

Katie Hopkins and some other celebs seem the opposite to this. Katie has been on the Apprentice, I'm a celebrity, Big Brother and we also know that she auditioned for the very first series of BB too so it would seem she has always wanted to be in the public eye in some way. Again I don't have a problem with this, many celebs I like are similar, just maybe when it was exposed that Katie had an affair with 3 married men which 7 children were affected by, that she thought "well I'm never going to be liked for being a nice person so might as well not hold back" and get her attention for being controversial instead.

Although she gets such criticism for her opinions, she also does get a lot of support too which then of course makes her believe that she is a voice that says what others are afraid to. It gives her a purpose in her own mind at least, and also the attention she craves.

Maybe with BB she wanted to show that there was more to her than just the title of homewrecker or bitch or whatever. I don't think she wanted everyone to think she was nice and that she didn't really mean the things she said, because I believe she probably does fully believe a lot of what she says. I think it's more that she wants people to see that yes she IS opinionated and has controversial opinions, but that there is also more to her like her sense of humour etc and that she can show kindness to some people.

This seemed to have worked quite well for her in fairness as many people are thinking this about her. For others, her behaviour in the house has just confirmed she is still a cow a lot of the time. It's just how people will differ in opinion on how they judge her actions in there.

I never gave a fcuk about her beforehand, just saw her as an irritating attention seeking fly really that I never gave much thought too or was hugely bothered by. In the house at first she just reinforced this idea I had of her when she gave crap insults on opening night, and the way she used to do over the top hand motions and panto in the diary room for the first week few days. Cami Li always angered me more because she was just so vicious and aggressive in the way she spat out her insults and the snappy fingers "bitch" thing.

However Hopkins hasn't endeared herself to me either. Yeah at first I just thought of her as an eejit really, but I've seen how unnecessarily cruel she can be too, particularly to Alicia. I've seen how she will try to pick at and argue with quieter people who are not looking for trouble like Alicia,Patsy and Keith until she can make them react. I just think if that's how you need to get your attention, then sorry but not a huge fan.
(I never minded her arguments with Perez and Nadia as much because they both seem to love arguing too although sometimes she just never knew when to let something go with Perez and would antagonise him even though she told everybody to ignore him, I also didn't agree with her trying to get everybody to isolate him either - she had no right to dictate to others what to do in the aim of making someone she didn't like uncomfortable)

So yeah sorry I've rambled on far too much, but I think her reasons are mainly validation from the public that she can be a controversial cow but that she also has a nicer side too, and the attention too of course that she feeds of.
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Katie Hopkins is a comedienne albeit with some hard-edged comedy. Even her face is comedic.
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