[Mitchell]

Originally Posted by arista

But she can Dance far better than you
dear

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

if we have this tremendous rise in obesity we hear about how comes today the news is all about the rise in food banks?

they both cant be right

Because unhealthy / fattening food is cheap and easy. What do the food banks even offer? Tinned crap, white carbs, carbs and more carbs. If you live off that crap you will get fat, simple as that. Body converts all those empty carbs to fat and also the poor quality leaves people feeling lethargic, therefore less active, therefore getting less exercise.

[Toy Soldier]

As for her comments, a bit daft in that people of all sizes have to buy clothes SOMEWHERE, but I do completely get her point in theory. Being overweight / obese in the western world is becoming "normalised" to the point that people who are, to be blunt, quite fat are seen as a normal / healthy weight. If it was only about aesthetics that wouldn't be a problem: people are free to have whatever body type they want if they are happy with it.

But when people have a distorted view of "normal weight", they are likely to think that their weight is "perfectly healthy" when they are, in fact, overweight... and then they're surprised / horrified when they start developing wider health issues related to their weight. Or rather, how much fat they're carrying... "weight" is meaningless in terms of health, only body fat percentage really matters.

But yeah... putting it simply, being an *unhealthy* weight shouldn't be normalised, congratulated or applauded. People shouldn't be shamed either, of course, and at the end of the day it's their own business if they want to have painful health complications and die younger... but, being healthy should always at least be strongly encouraged. It's NOT really "fine to be fat".

[edit] Edited to add: I say this as someone who has gained 2st (and lost muscle mass, so realistically gained more than 2st of fat) in the last 8 months so I'm not preaching from any soapbox. I'm currently not being healthy at all (went from cycling 15 miles a day for work to catching the bus like a lazy arsehole) and need to sort it out.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Because unhealthy / fattening food is cheap and easy. What do the food banks even offer? Tinned crap, white carbs, carbs and more carbs. If you live off that crap you will get fat, simple as that. Body converts all those empty carbs to fat and also the poor quality leaves people feeling lethargic, therefore less active, therefore getting less exercise.

No you will only get fat if you eat more than you burn off. Plenty people are thin and eat rubbish. What causes the obesity is take away food plain and simple

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

As for her comments, a bit daft in that people of all sizes have to buy clothes SOMEWHERE, but I do completely get her point in theory. Being overweight / obese in the western world is becoming "normalised" to the point that people who are, to be blunt, quite fat are seen as a normal / healthy weight. If it was only about aesthetics that wouldn't be a problem: people are free to have whatever body type they want if they are happy with it.

But when people have a distorted view of "normal weight", they are likely to think that their weight is "perfectly healthy" when they are, in fact, overweight... and then they're surprised / horrified when they start developing wider health issues related to their weight. Or rather, how much fat they're carrying... "weight" is meaningless in terms of health, only body fat percentage really matters.

But yeah... putting it simply, being an *unhealthy* weight shouldn't be normalised, congratulated or applauded. People shouldn't be shamed either, of course, and at the end of the day it's their own business if they want to have painful health complications and die younger... but, being healthy should always at least be strongly encouraged. It's NOT really "fine to be fat".

[edit] Edited to add: I say this as someone who has gained 2st (and lost muscle mass, so realistically gained more than 2st of fat) in the last 8 months so I'm not preaching from any soapbox. I'm currently not being healthy at all (went from cycling 15 miles a day for work to catching the bus like a lazy arsehole) and need to sort it out.

I absolutely agree with all that TS. It is a huge issue, I was watching the Irish Voice actually and I noticed that so many of the contestants (noticeably more so the girls for some reason) were over weight, it really is a worrying thing. I myself, gained a stone and a half in the last few years (which thankfully I'm halfway there to getting rid of now) but I was thinking to my myself, I'm sure I don't eat that much how have I actually put on all this weight? It wasn't until i actually started keeping note of how many calories are in everything I was eating did I realise that you don't actually even need to eat a horrendous amount to pile up your calories, if you're eating the wrong things. The one I was most shocked by actually was just how bad McDonalds was, 1100 calories in a medium meal That's almost your whole days allowance for a woman and you're hungry again like an hour later

[Vanessa]

But you can be healthy even if you're a little overweight. The most important thing is do some excercise and eat healthy. I try to, most of the time.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

No you will only get fat if you eat more than you burn off. Plenty people are thin and eat rubbish. What causes the obesity is take away food plain and simple

Yes but if you eat nothing but crap like tinned macaroni and white bread you will become tired / lethargic, like I said, and therefore less likely to keep active and burn calories. Bad food is a double-edged sword, and whilst I agree that take-away food is very rarely any good, it's far from being the only bad choice. Supermarket ready-meals / tinned meals / convenience foods like supernoodles that some people try to live on, are far worse. Especially the ones packed with hydrogenated fats, MSG, or both.

The worst offender is coke / other carbonated drinks though. The full-fat ones are A) full of calories and B) cause a "sugar crash" within a couple of hours of drinking one. You're not going to be doing any exercise whilst crashing, and the most likely scenario is that you're going to seek out another sugary drink.

"Diet" (irony!) drinks are even worse because the combination of the artificial sweeteners plus the gas stretching the stomach promotes hunger.


Anyway... my main point is, these food banks are not providing the raw, fresh foods that promote an energetic or healthy lifestyle. It's processed crap and heavy carbs.

[Amy Jade]

another futile attempt at getting some attention

[Suze]

If she had a brain she would be dangerous.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I absolutely agree with all that TS. It is a huge issue, I was watching the Irish Voice actually and I noticed that so many of the contestants (noticeably more so the girls for some reason) were over weight, it really is a worrying thing. I myself, gained a stone and a half in the last few years (which thankfully I'm halfway there to getting rid of now) but I was thinking to my myself, I'm sure I don't eat that much how have I actually put on all this weight? It wasn't until i actually started keeping note of how many calories are in everything I was eating did I realise that you don't actually even need to eat a horrendous amount to pile up your calories, if you're eating the wrong things. The one I was most shocked by actually was just how bad McDonalds was, 1100 calories in a medium meal That's almost your whole days allowance for a woman and you're hungry again like an hour later

What is even in McDonalds "food"?? We were talking about this the last time we went... you can wolf down a large quarter pounder meal, then you step out the door and you feel like you haven't eaten anything all day! And it's only McDonalds... even other fast food doesn't seem to have that effect.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

But you can be healthy even if you're a little overweight. The most important thing is do some excercise and eat healthy. I try to, most of the time.

A little overweight, sure, there's a fairly broad range of "healthy weights", but someone who is just a little overweight isn't going to be in "plus-size" clothes...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

What is even in McDonalds "food"?? We were talking about this the last time we went... you can wolf down a large quarter pounder meal, then you step out the door and you feel like you haven't eaten anything all day! And it's only McDonalds... even other fast food doesn't seem to have that effect.

I know, it's weird, I love their chips but you could actually eat them non stop for an hour and still feel hungry With Chinese food I always feel really bloated and sluggish afterwards, Indian I find the best, you feel full afterwards but not bloated

[arista]

Originally Posted by Livia

Here we go with another profoundly stupid woman being given a platform to air her opinions. I've seen her make an arse of herself on TV many times because she's frankly a bit dim... and yet she, along with people like Katie Hopkins, are now public orators on all matters affecting everyone. Get them ALL off my screen and out of my newspapers, please.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

A little overweight, sure, there's a fairly broad range of "healthy weights", but someone who is just a little overweight isn't going to be in "plus-size" clothes...

I suppose it depends on how active they are. Some people put on weight very easily.

[kirklancaster]

I thought this thread was about some egotistical TV 'personality' stepping out of her inane safe role and spouting that stores should not stock clothes for obese/oversize women?

The 'why's' and 'wherefores' of how people GOT to be fat, and the 'If's' and 'but's of 'HEALTH ISSUES' associated with being fat have nothing to do with this tedious 'KH' wannabe's statements.

FAT people already EXIST so the question is; Do we really want to see MOUNTAINS of wobbling cellulite and dimpled flesh bouncing up and down when FAT people are forced to walk around NAKED because of this big mouthed TV 'Celebrity?

I say no! Save our pavements from the damage caused by nipple drag from massive bosoms. Save our children from having to witness such horrors.

CLOTHE THE FATTIES and FECK JAMELIA!

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

She is a pop legend

Who has problems with toilets

Bang On Right LT.

[Kizzy]

'Make overweight people feel uncomfortable' ... So, bully them then Jamelia? Wow, she has had some strange views this one ( the date rape one :/ ) but this is a corker.
If she had some remotely ethical reason why she's concerned, if she was highlighting the socioeconomic factors connected with the rise in obesity, but she isn't.
What makes it worse is that the guests for the day had been teenagers, how must they be now feeling?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Oh yeah?.....

Feel the force

Good For You

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I suppose it depends on how active they are. Some people put on weight very easily.

Yes they need to Burn It Off
via
Yoga
Hot Sex
or
Standing more


Of course you can do all three of those
at once




Feel The Force

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

'Make overweight people feel uncomfortable' ... So, bully them then Jamelia? Wow, she has had some strange views this one ( the date rape one :/ ) but this is a corker.
If she had some remotely ethical reason why she's concerned, if she was highlighting the socioeconomic factors connected with the rise in obesity, but she isn't.
What makes it worse is that the guests for the day had been teenagers, how must they be now feeling?

Maybe she should leave twitter for a while

[Kizzy]

Jamelia has apologised after suggesting high street stores should not stock clothes "above a certain size" - but said she stands by her remarks.
The Loose Women panellist said she was "hounded on Twitter" after airing her views on the ITV show in a discussion about overweight teenagers.
"Knowing that I offended really upset me," Jamelia told Good Morning Britain.
"Knowing that I made people question themselves and their choices, it really did upset me. All I can do is apologise for that."


Engage your brain?


http://www.itv.com/news/2015-04-22/j...hing-comments/

[Niamh.]

How can she apologise but stand by her remarks at the same time

[LeatherTrumpet]

Perched for her "Islam is the baddest religion" next statement

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Jamelia has apologised after suggesting high street stores should not stock clothes "above a certain size" - but said she stands by her remarks.
The Loose Women panellist said she was "hounded on Twitter" after airing her views on the ITV show in a discussion about overweight teenagers.
"Knowing that I offended really upset me," Jamelia told Good Morning Britain.
"Knowing that I made people question themselves and their choices, it really did upset me. All I can do is apologise for that."


Engage your brain?


http://www.itv.com/news/2015-04-22/j...hing-comments/

Yes I watched that on GMBHD
but then she stupidly said
"I stand by what I said"

she would not go into detail of the
Online Anger , Threats


It was a soft interview by her ITV mates


Put the bitch on Ch4HD News
tonight for a Live Studio debate
with a Fat people


It Good To Cry

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

How can she apologise but stand by her remarks at the same time

Thats her Whole problem on LWHD


Someone needs to chuck a bucket of Water over her