[arista]

1st Title:USA : Baltimore Riots :
At last a Mother Slapping her Son around his head


From Ch4HD News

A Cop said to the Ch4HDNews Lady Reporter
if only we had more mums like that


They showed a mother Slapping
her Son who had a Hoodie on
around his head






http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...t-rioting.html


Thanks to Tom for the gif
which was on Chaos thread

I made this thread as her thread vanished
its now back

[user104658]

OR... we know for a fact that this guy has a mother who likes to slap him about the face, and now he has grown up to be a violent thug. Violence teaches violence. If she had respected him more when he was growing up instead of slapping him around, maybe he wouldn't be so keen to trash the world now.

Just sayin'.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

OR... we know for a fact that this guy has a mother who likes to slap him about the face, and now he has grown up to be a violent thug. Violence teaches violence. If she had respected him more when he was growing up instead of slapping him around, maybe he wouldn't be so keen to trash the world now.

Just sayin'.

why when white kids riot and cause havoc in towns they're called revellers but blacks violent thug?

[Ninastar]

i get what you're saying cece, but TS is far, far from racist...

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

why when white kids riot and cause havoc in towns they're called revellers but blacks violent thug?

I don't think anyone rioting and causing havoc has ever been called a "reveller"... I'm pretty sure you must mean something else...

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

certainly things like rowdy and unruly are used quite a bit, but never violent thugs.
Sigh life just isn't fair.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

certainly things like rowdy and unruly are used quite a bit, but never violent thugs.
Sigh life just isn't fair.

I live in Scotland. There are plenty of very white (pasty, even) violent thugs here.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I live in Scotland. There are plenty of very white (pasty, even) violent thugs here.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

OR... we know for a fact that this guy has a mother who likes to slap him about the face, and now he has grown up to be a violent thug. Violence teaches violence. If she had respected him more when he was growing up instead of slapping him around, maybe he wouldn't be so keen to trash the world now.

Just sayin'.

He is a teen
that Mother had watched a Community Center
for old foilks , just built
Burn to the Fecking Ground.




I am with the Mother
smack that Punk Ass Kid rounds his head more

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

OR... we know for a fact that this guy has a mother who likes to slap him about the face, and now he has grown up to be a violent thug. Violence teaches violence. If she had respected him more when he was growing up instead of slapping him around, maybe he wouldn't be so keen to trash the world now.

Just sayin'.

..we don't know that though, her emotions are all caught up in the turbulence of the riot and seeing her son a part of it and I would think that part of her slapping him would come from a fear and dread for his safety and a reaction to that...because her reaction and her emotions were to slap him in this extraordinary situation is no indication of a mother who likes to slap her son or that she hasn't shown him respect in his growing up...or that there is any sort of 'slapping around' type history in his childhood or life...

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..we don't know that though, her emotions are all caught up in the turbulence of the riot and seeing her son a part of it and I would think that part of her slapping him would come from a fear and dread for his safety and a reaction to that...because her reaction and her emotions were to slap him in this extraordinary situation is no indication of a mother who likes to slap her son or that she hasn't shown him respect in his growing up...or that there is any sort of 'slapping around' type history in his childhood or life...

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

OR... we know for a fact that this guy has a mother who likes to slap him about the face, and now he has grown up to be a violent thug. Violence teaches violence. If she had respected him more when he was growing up instead of slapping him around, maybe he wouldn't be so keen to trash the world now.

Just sayin'.

I think it is wildly presumptuous T.S, to decide from a 10 second clip in such outrageous circumstances, that this mother has been a poor parent who has raised her son in a violent manner with corporal punishment as any regular part of a brutal regime, because - to me - the exact opposite seems more likely to be the case.

To assume what you assume, is as ludicrous as deciding that a Crown Court judge who has just sentenced a violent thug he has never met before to a long prison sentence, is a man of mean and severe merciless habits.

If this mother - unlike a growing number of unfit parents on both sides of the Atlantic - has raised her children to be moral, decent, and law abiding in a loving, stable, home environment, is morally outraged by the violence she witnesses erupting in her home city, then recognises her son as one of those taking part - she will be rightfully shocked and incensed.

The fact that she was personally moved enough to GO to the scene of his law-breaking to both, put a stop to it and - admittedly angrily - to PUNISH him for it, shows a degree of morals, care and parental responsibility so increasingly lacking in the parents of the growing number of feral, lawless kids which now blight all Democratic societies across the globe.

Her 'corporal' punishment is far more likely to be the exception rather than the rule, because violent parents are bad parents and bad parents would not have been moved to do what this mother did. Bad parents simply do not give a shet where their kids are, or what they are doing.

For society to actually work, there HAS to be laws, and there has to be PUNISHMENT for those whose personal 'Moral Code' is insufficient to prevent them breaking such laws.

The above TENET is what lies at the very HEART of the 'civil unrest' which is escalating throughout certain states of the USA, because, increasingly, certain 'Officers of The Law'; from individual Police Officers to entire departments, Judges, and Politicians, are BREAKING the law -either directly or by complicity - by MURDERING BLACKS - yet their crimes are NOT being PUNISHED.

As true and sad a fact as this is, BREAKING other LAWS in protest, by destroying property, looting, and attacking innocent people is NOT the answer, because this will eventually lead to Martial Law, Civil War, then a total breakdown of Democracy replaced by Anarchy - which is EXACTLY what certain political agitators at the core of all these riots desire.

A crashed plane full of schoolboys landing on a tropical island paradise without any adult authority figures is not mandatory for Golding's 'Lord of The Flies' nightmare dystopia to become a reality, and for humans to revert to savagery, because it is HERE now, occurring before our blinkered eyes, and has been for centuries.

On OUR streets. to those of every other Country in the world - from the Baltics to the Middle East to the Far East - MAN is increasingly reverting to barbaric INHUMAN savagery and the WEAKER and more TOLERANT a democratic government is, then the more quickly that reversion is allowed to accelerate and take an IRREVERSIBLE foothold in our societies, because weak authority is as bad as Golding's non-authority.

Not ALL men are the same. The majority POSESS an intrinsic moral code whilst a minority DO NOT, but because the majority that do, are passive, peaceful and decent, they WILL ALWAYS be AT RISK and eventually succumb to those that don't.

Which is why we must have laws - rigid equitable laws - and an equitable Judicial System administrated by rigid but equitable men.

The laws and the society we have in Democracies may not be perfect, but the alternative should such laws be crushed and society with them - is unthinkable.

Is society a BETTER place since our Police, Justice, and Penal systems became 'soft'?

Perhaps, this mother had her rules, her laws, and because, despite her best instructions and teaching and despite her love and nurture, this son was persistently wayward in BREAKING those laws, she 'just lost it' at yet another of his criminal escapades.

As Ammi so succinctly said, we have NO RIGHT to judge her punishment - corporal or not - as evidence of her being an abusive mother.

I for one APPLAUD this mother and wish there were thousands more just like her.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by arista

He is a teen
that Mother had watched a Community Center
for old foilks , just built
Burn to the Fecking Ground.




I am with the Mother
smack that Punk Ass Kid rounds his head more

And I am with you on this Arista.

[user104658]

All I can say is a resounding... "maybe".

And that to me, she looks pretty comfortable swinging her arm, and he looks pretty used to being slapped by his mother.

I might be making too many assumptions I suppose, that's true. But the entire premise of this thread to me smells like it'll take inevitable sidestep into "if parents still smacked their kids these things wouldn't happen" / "they should bring back hitting people with sticks in school to teach respect then there would never be in riots". And other statements of complete and utter nonsense.

I was just trying to pre-empt that, I suppose. If she was just overwhelmed and snapped, fine, but this is not the answer nor is it to be applauded. Violence of any kind against someone you love, for any reason, or as a reaction to anything, is never the answer.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

All I can say is a resounding... "maybe".

And that to me, she looks pretty comfortable swinging her arm, and he looks pretty used to being slapped by his mother.

I might be making too many assumptions I suppose, that's true. But the entire premise of this thread to me smells like it'll take inevitable sidestep into "if parents still smacked their kids these things wouldn't happen" / "they should bring back hitting people with sticks in school to teach respect then there would never be in riots". And other statements of complete and utter nonsense.

I was just trying to pre-empt that, I suppose. If she was just overwhelmed and snapped, fine, but this is not the answer nor is it to be applauded. Violence of any kind against someone you love, for any reason, or as a reaction to anything, is never the answer.

..no I'm not remotely applauding it but it's also not assuming so much more from her actions in a highly emotive and extraordinary situation and her fear at that moment for her son and the realising that he was part of it all...one isolated action does not make a 'history'...we brought back the hitting with sticks in our school quite a while ago btw only it's the children who have them and do the hitting....

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..no I'm not remotely applauding it but it's also not assuming so much more from her actions in a highly emotive and extraordinary situation and her fear at that moment for her son and the realising that he was part of it all...one isolated action does not make a 'history'...we brought back the hitting with sticks in our school quite a while ago btw only it's the children who have them and do the hitting....

There's no answer to that.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

There's no answer to that.

..children find it very hard to resist a good quality stick......

[user104658]

I don't think that was brought back, kids have always hit each other with sticks. Do you know which kids do the most "hitting with sticks"? The ones who are hit at home.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

why when white kids riot and cause havoc in towns they're called revellers but blacks violent thug?

Looting can hardly be called revelling, not sure white football hooligans have ever been called revellers can you provide a link where looters whatever their colour have been labelled revellers

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I don't think that was brought back, kids have always hit each other with sticks. Do you know which kids do the most "hitting with sticks"? The ones who are hit at home.

..yeah the bringing back bit was just a joke and it's just that I have rubbish jokes...but honestly TS that's not true in my experience either, which is more that a child being hit at home in the sense I think that you mean... would be more the child who is less likely to join in with any games whatever they are and generally interact less because whether playing with sticks be appropriate or not and obviously in school it's reinforced that it's not...it's much more of a generally happy, playful and active mind and a worry free mind....obviously there may be some situations that you have said as well but it's also something that shouldn't be assumed, that violence will breed violence and active violence...because violence so often breeds fear and insecurity and a 'dumbing down' of a child...

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I don't think that was brought back, kids have always hit each other with sticks. Do you know which kids do the most "hitting with sticks"? The ones who are hit at home.

Is this apart from the bullies who are intrinsically more aggressive, less disciplined and physically bigger and stronger who are able to hit with sticks because they have no internal moral compass which determines such conduct is wrong, do not respect any external rules which decree it is wrong, and do not fear any punishment for breaking such rules because they are soft and impotent?

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Looting can hardly be called revelling, not sure white football hooligans have ever been called revellers can you provide a link where looters whatever their colour have been labelled revellers

http://www.theroot.com/blogs/the_gra..._football.html

[Kizzy]

I once hit my son with a spring roll he still talks about it to this day... Even though I only smacked him as many times as I can count on the fingers of one hand I could see me doing this if I caught him looting :/

[user104658]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Is this apart from the bullies who are intrinsically more aggressive, less disciplined and physically bigger and stronger who are able to hit with sticks because they have no internal moral compass which determines such conduct is wrong, do not respect any external rules which decree it is wrong, and do not fear any punishment for breaking such rules because they are soft and impotent?

You don't instill a moral compass in someone by hitting them .

I actually once saw a woman at soft play, smack her child and at the same time shout "don't hit!!" at him. I mean just... What? If you were ever looking to confuse a 5 year old, there's one way to do it.

Every bully I've ever encountered is a bully because they are seeking to feel powerful. These kids are seeking to feel powerful because they feel powerless at home. It's more or less that simple. If you respect your children as individuals and talk to them as equals then they will behave respectfully to others... It's more or less that simple. Treating like an equal does not mean pandering to or spoiling... It means exactly what it means. I talk to my 5 year old in exactly the same way I talk to any adult.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..yeah the bringing back bit was just a joke and it's just that I have rubbish jokes...but honestly TS that's not true in my experience either, which is more that a child being hit at home in the sense I think that you mean... would be more the child who is less likely to join in with any games whatever they are and generally interact less because whether playing with sticks be appropriate or not and obviously in school it's reinforced that it's not...it's much more of a generally happy, playful and active mind and a worry free mind....obviously there may be some situations that you have said as well but it's also something that shouldn't be assumed, that violence will breed violence and active violence...because violence so often breeds fear and insecurity and a 'dumbing down' of a child...

I agree really, one of my daughters friends who is very much "controlled" at home (and would never misbehave in front of her mother, or a teacher for that matter, because she is terrified of authority figures) can best be describes as nervous, anxious and insecure.

She is also incredibly angry and shoves, hits, grabs, and shouts in kids faces and lashes out when she thinks there aren't any adults looking.