[Jason.]

Originally Posted by MB.

I'm not sure how viewing figures are going to fall to 800k if they keep producing series like CBB15, considering that's their most-viewed series an' all...

I said BB15/CBB14/CBB15.

All of which were too similar in terms of heavy conflict and twists.
BB15 and CBB15 were the worst in terms of manipulation.

The fact that the final week ratings for CBB15 dropped. Shows how stale it got, from all the conflict.

CBB15 could've averaged around 3.2m. But, it got so draining to watch by Day 25, that the ratings were on about 2.8m, as opposed to the 3.2m, the show was getting a few weeks earlier.

CBB15 only rated well because it was controversial. Just like CBB5 got good ratings.

CBB13 got good ratings because it was a classic series throughout.

[Daniel.]

I've been thinking about BB15 and maybe it wasn't that bad, lots of dramatic moments.

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by MB.

Sure, you could argue that BB14 has the highest civilian viewing figures on Channel 5, but it was just as twist and public influence-heavy as BB15 was. Plus, it wasn't up against a World Cup.

Whilst I do agree.

It wasn't to the same extent that BB15 had.

BB14 had a better cast, and tasks too. As well as humor and fun.

BB15 was all about ruthlessness and dark and nasty game play.

The World Cup didn't kill the BB15 ratings.
BB15 ratings were low from the get and go, and never improved.

The ratings always stood at 1.5-1.6m.

The Olympics tarnished the BB13 ratings.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

I've been thinking about BB15 and maybe it wasn't that bad, lots of dramatic moments.

Just because the series had drama doesn't automatically make it okay for me.

Just look at the second half of BB7, BB12, and once Alicia leaves CBB15 to see that.

[Daniel.]

Originally Posted by BB6

BB15 was all about ruthlessness and dark and nasty game play.

That sounds amazing to me and could describe the likes of BB6 and BB13 better than it did BB15.

[Daniel.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Just because the series had drama doesn't automatically make it okay for me.

Just look at the second half of BB7, BB12, and once Alicia leaves CBB15 to see that.

I like the second half of BB7

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

That sounds amazing to me and could describe the likes of BB6 and BB13 better than it did BB15.

BB6 and BB13 had nothing to do with game play, IMO.
Those were both divided series.

The producers knew what they wanted from BB15, and they got it. Shame they didn't get the ratings.
The promo for the series said it all, TBH.

Always going on about how ruthless the housemates were and how they were on the cusp of fame.

The producers wanted nasty, and they got it. Fair play.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

That sounds amazing to me and could describe the likes of BB6 and BB13 better than it did BB15.

BB6 and BB13 did still have contestants in them that liked to have fun though, and the nastiness was more comedic in them series compared to most of the BB15 nastiness imo.

[Rob!]

Tbh if BB6 aired now, I don't think it would be anywhere near as popular. It was just as nasty as BB15 if not worse.

[Daniel.]

Originally Posted by BB6

BB6 and BB13 had nothing to do with game play, IMO.
Those were both divided series.

The producers knew what they wanted from BB15, and they got it. Shame they didn't get the ratings.
The promo for the series said it all, TBH.

Always going on about how ruthless the housemates were and how they were on the cusp of fame.

The producers wanted nasty, and they got it. Fair play.

BB6 was pretty much endless gameplay with people like Derek and Makosi, no idea what you were seeing

[Daniel.]

Originally Posted by Rob!

Tbh if BB6 aired now, I don't think it would be anywhere near as popular. It was just as nasty as BB15 if not worse.

It was amazing though

Makosi's lies, Craig's stalking, Derek's snobbery

[Daniel.]

Nastiness honestly doesn't bother me as long as it's entertaining, BB6 and BB13 are for me the two most consistently entertaining series and they were nasty. BB15 just lacked entertainment a lot and it was actually dull often.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

I like the second half of BB7

Fair enough if you can handle that much focus on the next Romeo & Juliet & Bunny & Boiler & Norman.

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by MB.

Well, it's good to know that we all still have faith in this show.

How can we have faith in the show, when the last three series has been artificial boiled shyte.

It's not like they're helping the show, so why anyone would have any faith in it is beyond me.

Heck, they don't even have faith in the show themselves. What happened to BB being the main event of the summer. The fact most of the anticipation is for CBB16 speaks volumes, TBH.

I had faith for it, after CBB13. They disappointed me with BB15, and CBB14.
I re-gained my faith for CBB15, till Alicia was evicted, and the series turned into another BB15.

If they don't fix it, and BB16 is like BB15, and the second half of CBB15. Then it pretty much sets the tone for the next two years of Big Brother, IMO.

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

BB6 was pretty much endless gameplay with people like Derek and Makosi, no idea what you were seeing

I saw the live feed.

[Daniel.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Fair enough if you can handle that much focus on the next Romeo & Juliet & Bunny & Boiler & Norman.

I liked it because Aisleyne is my favourite housemate ever and I enjoyed watching her, imo very real, journey.

[Daniel.]

Originally Posted by BB6

I saw the live feed.

Good for you.

[Jason.]

Big Brother 6 and 13 were good because it natural.
The cast were good, which is why the series were good.

[Mystic Mock]

BB15 lacked humour, the only people that made me laugh was Helen, Ash, Biannca, Christopher on occasion, and Mark on occasion.

The others had their moments, but not really good enough imo, and considering there was like 20 contestants in BB15 it's not good that only 5 Housemates made me laugh on a semi-regular basis.

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by BB6

How can we have faith in the show, when the last three series has been artificial boiled shyte.

It's not like they're helping the show, so why anyone would have any faith in it is beyond me.

Heck, they don't even have faith in the show. What happened to BB being the main event of the summer. The fact most of the anticipation is for CBB16 speaks volumes, TBH.

I had faith for it, after CBB13. They disappointed me with BB15, and CBB14.
I re-gained my faith for CBB15, till Alicia was evicted, and the series turned into another BB15.

If they don't fix it, and BB16 is like BB15, and the second half of CBB15. Then it pretty much sets the tone for the next two years of Big Brother, IMO.

If they didn't have faith in the show then why the hell would they be forking out £120m a year to air it?

In my opinion, channel 5 have come a long way since the compete and utter arse gravy that was BB12 and CBB...whatever the one with Katona was. That was horrific. Glossy, trashy ****e.

[Daniel.]

I know, I'm just saying I thought there were a lot of gameplayers like Makosi, Derek, Caroline, Lydia etc I know that wasn't the theme but I think there were more ruthless gameplayers in those series than BB15 which is what made them nasty.

[Daniel.]

Danielle, Toya and Pauline were the ones from BB15 who often had me in hysterics.

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Rob!

If they didn't have faith in the show then why the hell would they be forking out £120m a year to air it?

In my opinion, channel 5 have come a long way since the compete and utter arse gravy that was BB12 and CBB...whatever the one with Katona was. That was horrific. Glossy, trashy ****e.

They came along way from CBB8/BB12 to get to CBB13.
Then took twenty step backwards with BB15 and CBB14.

BIB -
You tell me.

They spend £120m a year, and can't even promote their series properly.

I haven't even seen an ident for Timebomb yet, and the series starts next week, FGS.

[Mystic Mock]

Pauline was a good villain in terms of ruling the House with an iron fist, I wouldn't particularly call her funny though away from “it's Jale's fault” that she said directly to Jale's face.

And Toya and Danielle was overrated imo.

Oh and I agree that Ch5's BB's have improved, but I just wish that they could have CBB13's fun with the arguing and bitching.

[Mystic Mock]

Pauline was a good villain in terms of ruling the House with an iron fist, I wouldn't particularly call her funny though away from “it's Jale's fault” that she said directly to Jale's face.

And Toya and Danielle was overrated imo.

Oh and I agree that Ch5's BB's have improved, but I just wish that they could have CBB13's fun with the arguing and bitching.