[arista]

This Man was mean't to be set free it
in 2007

Why Keep him until now
He has Never Ever Been Charged.


USA /UK Balls Up.

http://news.sky.com/story/1578782/fr...nks-supporters

[Tom4784]

I hope he sues them for millions.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I hope he sues them for millions.

He doesn't have to to, he is due compensation which will run in to millions

[Johnnyuk123]

If you read the report he's not British. He's a Saudi National.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

If you read the report he's not British. He's a Saudi National.

"Mr Aamer was born in Saudi Arabia but has British residency. His wife and four children live in London."

That gives him British rights

[DemolitionRed]

Disgusting how a 21st century country can have an off shore camp to elude human rights laws.

Welcome home Shaker Aamer.

[kirklancaster]

No amount of money can really compensate him for all those irretrievable lost years of his life, but I hope it is millions.

As Arista says; "Why keep him all this time with no charges being brought?" I'm looking forward to some type of PROPER enquiry which airs the truth about this unsavoury mess. I wonder if I'll be waiting in vain?

[Nedusa]

This man is totally innocent ?

This man was wandering around a war zone claiming to be a charity worker... ?

The US authorities saw fit to keep this man incarcerated for 14 years as he is clearly a major terrorist threat.

Perhaps there is more to this story than just the miscarriage of justice theme ...

Anyone and I mean anyone who has been clearly identified and shown by the secret services to be actively plotting terrorist atrocities against the general populace should be incarcerated indefinitely and/or made to go for a long walk on a short plank...

Better these animals were caught before they have time to destroy people's lives..

So I apologise if I don't join in with the bleeding hearts brigade at the release of this "innocent man".

I bet there is a large dossier of involvement with terrorist groups ,affiliations ,tacit support etc... On this man.Make no mistake this man is a nasty piece of work and given the opportunity would gladly see you ,your family, your friends and your culture/way of life eradicated in a heartbeat.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

This man is totally innocent ?

This man was wandering around a war zone claiming to be a charity worker... ?

The US authorities saw fit to keep this man incarcerated for 14 years as he is clearly a major terrorist threat.

Perhaps there is more to this story than just the miscarriage of justice theme ...

Anyone and I mean anyone who has been clearly identified and shown by the secret services to be actively plotting terrorist atrocities against the general populace should be incarcerated indefinitely and/or made to go for a long walk on a short plank...

Better these animals were caught before they have time to destroy people's lives..

So I apologise if I don't join in with the bleeding hearts brigade at the release of this "innocent man".

I bet there is a large dossier of involvement with terrorist groups ,affiliations ,tacit support etc... On this man.Make no mistake this man is a nasty piece of work and given the opportunity would gladly see you ,your family, your friends and your culture/way of life eradicated in a heartbeat.

Where's the proof that he's guilty of anything or that he committed any kind of crime at all? There was nothing and he was unjustly held for YEARS without being charged.

You're demonising this man on nothing more than a whim.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

This man is totally innocent ?

This man was wandering around a war zone claiming to be a charity worker... ?

The US authorities saw fit to keep this man incarcerated for 14 years as he is clearly a major terrorist threat.

Perhaps there is more to this story than just the miscarriage of justice theme ...

Anyone and I mean anyone who has been clearly identified and shown by the secret services to be actively plotting terrorist atrocities against the general populace should be incarcerated indefinitely and/or made to go for a long walk on a short plank...

Better these animals were caught before they have time to destroy people's lives..

So I apologise if I don't join in with the bleeding hearts brigade at the release of this "innocent man".

I bet there is a large dossier of involvement with terrorist groups ,affiliations ,tacit support etc... On this man.Make no mistake this man is a nasty piece of work and given the opportunity would gladly see you ,your family, your friends and your culture/way of life eradicated in a heartbeat.

You KNOW that I am no terrorist appeaser - and I had this guy down just as you describe him - BUT, it is a total mystery then just WHY the authorities would choose to play in to the terrorists and their appeasers hands by NOT charging him?

As they have not charged him, then by law he is innocent and his 14 YEAR! imprisonment can only be categorised as unlawful - hence the perfectably reasonable agreement that he SHOULD be heavily compensated, AND my desire for a proper enquiry which will air the truth of this matter and answer my question of just why a man I was led to believe was a terrorist has yet been released without charge after 14 years?

We have a right to know the truth, and he has a right to compensation.

If he IS a terrorist, then the handling of this case by the authorities must be the biggest cock-up since Dunkirk.

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

This man is totally innocent ?

This man was wandering around a war zone claiming to be a charity worker... ?

The US authorities saw fit to keep this man incarcerated for 14 years as he is clearly a major terrorist threat.

Perhaps there is more to this story than just the miscarriage of justice theme ...

Anyone and I mean anyone who has been clearly identified and shown by the secret services to be actively plotting terrorist atrocities against the general populace should be incarcerated indefinitely and/or made to go for a long walk on a short plank...

Better these animals were caught before they have time to destroy people's lives..

So I apologise if I don't join in with the bleeding hearts brigade at the release of this "innocent man".

I bet there is a large dossier of involvement with terrorist groups ,affiliations ,tacit support etc... On this man.Make no mistake this man is a nasty piece of work and given the opportunity would gladly see you ,your family, your friends and your culture/way of life eradicated in a heartbeat.

..seriously? I'm not one to call people racist, but I find it extremely unlikely you'd be saying this if he was of white british ethnicity.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

You KNOW that I am no terrorist appeaser - and I had this guy down just as you describe him - BUT, it is a total mystery then just WHY the authorities would choose to play in to the terrorists and their appeasers hands by NOT charging him?

As they have not charged him, then by law he is innocent and his 14 YEAR! imprisonment can only be categorised as unlawful - hence the perfectably reasonable agreement that he SHOULD be heavily compensated, AND my desire for a proper enquiry which will air the truth of this matter and answer my question of just why a man I was led to believe was a terrorist has yet been released without charge after 14 years?

We have a right to know the truth, and he has a right to compensation.

If he IS a terrorist, then the handling of this case by the authorities must be the biggest cock-up since Dunkirk.

I cannot believe even the Americans would unlawfully detain a completely innocent man for 14 years with no evidence whatsoever.

I have to believe the US authorities had plenty of Intel on this guy and there must have been some connections with jihadist groups or some sinister links with terrorism related organisations.

Surely being a Muslim with beard doesn't carry a 14 year prison term ??

If this is the case then I have to perhaps rethink my opening comments and pose the question what came first the terrorist or the terrorist government a sort of Chicken and Egg scenario ...

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

I cannot believe even the Americans would unlawfully detain a completely innocent man for 14 years with no evidence whatsoever.

I have to believe the US authorities had plenty of Intel on this guy and there must have been some connections with jihadist groups or some sinister links with terrorism related organisations.

Surely being a Muslim with beard doesn't carry a 14 year prison term ??

If this is the case then I have to perhaps rethink my opening comments and pose the question what came first the terrorist or the terrorist government a sort of Chicken and Egg scenario ...

They had 14 years to build a case against him and failed. If he had any terrorist connections, they would have put it to trial like any democracy is supposed to do ... No?

What gets me is that its been years since it was agreed that he had no case to answer, and yet they still kept him prisoner .... for YEARS after.

Many more intrinsically guilty people have gone free and received compensation, for a lot less than that.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

I cannot believe even the Americans would unlawfully detain a completely innocent man for 14 years with no evidence whatsoever.

I have to believe the US authorities had plenty of Intel on this guy and there must have been some connections with jihadist groups or some sinister links with terrorism related organisations.

Surely being a Muslim with beard doesn't carry a 14 year prison term ??

If this is the case then I have to perhaps rethink my opening comments and pose the question what came first the terrorist or the terrorist government a sort of Chicken and Egg scenario ...

Hey, don't get me wrong Nedusa - For all we know -- or will EVER get to know -- this guy might be guilty as hell, and they may have KNOW he was guilty as hell and were determined to detain him until he cracked. He may have cracked within the last couple of years and spilled his guts about all he knew about ISIS or other terrorist factions, and they cut a deal with him: They release him without charge ensuring that he collects millions of pounds for informing by way of compensation for 'indefensible unlawful detention', plus none of his terrorist cronies will ever suspect him of informing.

Or he may just REALLY be innocent - I cannot understand why they detained him for so long if he really is, but WHO KNOWS anything when it comes to governments and the truth?

I only know that this whole sordid, unsavoury, disturbing case, DEMANDS an investigation and Enquiry of the highest order.

WE are owed it.

[Kizzy]

'Shaker Aamer, the British resident finally set free after spending almost 14 years incarcerated at Guantánamo Bay, is to bring legal proceedings against the British government over its alleged complicity in his mistreatment.

The case will include a claim for damages from the UK’s security and intelligence agencies, whose officers interrogated him three times while he was at the US detention facility in Cuba and who are alleged to have been present while he was being tortured at a prison in Afghanistan shortly after 9/11.
As the 48-year-old father-of-four landed back on UK soil, members of his legal team indicated to the Guardian that they expected the government to settle the claim as quickly as possible rather than suffer the embarrassment of seeing further allegations of the UK’s involvement in human rights abuses being aired in court.'

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...-incarcaration

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

This man is totally innocent ?

This man was wandering around a war zone claiming to be a charity worker... ?

The US authorities saw fit to keep this man incarcerated for 14 years as he is clearly a major terrorist threat.

Perhaps there is more to this story than just the miscarriage of justice theme ...

Anyone and I mean anyone who has been clearly identified and shown by the secret services to be actively plotting terrorist atrocities against the general populace should be incarcerated indefinitely and/or made to go for a long walk on a short plank...

Better these animals were caught before they have time to destroy people's lives..

So I apologise if I don't join in with the bleeding hearts brigade at the release of this "innocent man".

I bet there is a large dossier of involvement with terrorist groups ,affiliations ,tacit support etc... On this man.Make no mistake this man is a nasty piece of work and given the opportunity would gladly see you ,your family, your friends and your culture/way of life eradicated in a heartbeat.

blimey Nedusa

where the feck have you been?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

'Shaker Aamer, the British resident finally set free after spending almost 14 years incarcerated at Guantánamo Bay, is to bring legal proceedings against the British government over its alleged complicity in his mistreatment.

The case will include a claim for damages from the UK’s security and intelligence agencies, whose officers interrogated him three times while he was at the US detention facility in Cuba and who are alleged to have been present while he was being tortured at a prison in Afghanistan shortly after 9/11.
As the 48-year-old father-of-four landed back on UK soil, members of his legal team indicated to the Guardian that they expected the government to settle the claim as quickly as possible rather than suffer the embarrassment of seeing further allegations of the UK’s involvement in human rights abuses being aired in court.'

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...-incarcaration

Good, he deserves every penny he's going to get.

Guantanamo is a disgrace that should have been shut down years ago.

[Northern Monkey]

I'm unsure tbh.We know what the yanks are like for cutting deals.He is either completely innocent or had some kind of involvement with terrorists and gave some valuable information to the CIA for his release.Who knows.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Hey, don't get me wrong Nedusa - For all we know -- or will EVER get to know -- this guy might be guilty as hell, and they may have KNOW he was guilty as hell and were determined to detain him until he cracked. He may have cracked within the last couple of years and spilled his guts about all he knew about ISIS or other terrorist factions, and they cut a deal with him: They release him without charge ensuring that he collects millions of pounds for informing by way of compensation for 'indefensible unlawful detention', plus none of his terrorist cronies will ever suspect him of informing.

Or he may just REALLY be innocent - I cannot understand why they detained him for so long if he really is, but WHO KNOWS anything when it comes to governments and the truth?

I only know that this whole sordid, unsavoury, disturbing case, DEMANDS an investigation and Enquiry of the highest order.

WE are owed it.

Kirk, A good friend of mine works for the security services and although he cannot comment on specific cases he has left me in no doubt that this man was only held because he was deemed as such a high terrorist risk.

Make no mistake this man was and probably still is a nasty piece of work. someone who was invloved in terrorism against the west and although no single damming individual piece of evidence can prove his guilt in a court of law, believe me when I say that the security services here and in the US are in NO doubt whatsoever as to this evil piece of slime's true intents.

Pity he never got a bullet in his head back before he was first captured.

Honestly....some of the comments left on here are from people who have their head's well and truly stuck in the sand. These people will kill you, your family and your friends in a heartbeat, they care nothing for you or your way of life. To them you are the enemy, an enemy they are obliged to revert or kill.

They will not stop until there is a Mosque in every square...

We are sleepwalking into a potential catastrophe.

[MTVN]

He was cleared for release seven years ago. I suspect the fear with releasing Guantanamo inmates is with what they could reveal about practices there and that their time incarcerated could radicalise them even if they weren't before.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Kirk, A good friend of mine works for the security services and although he cannot comment on specific cases he has left me in no doubt that this man was only held because he was deemed as such a high terrorist risk.

Make no mistake this man was and probably still is a nasty piece of work. someone who was invloved in terrorism against the west and although no single damming individual piece of evidence can prove his guilt in a court of law, believe me when I say that the security services here and in the US are in NO doubt whatsoever as to this evil piece of slime's true intents.

Pity he never got a bullet in his head back before he was first captured.

Honestly....some of the comments left on here are from people who have their head's well and truly stuck in the sand. These people will kill you, your family and your friends in a heartbeat, they care nothing for you or your way of life. To them you are the enemy, an enemy they are obliged to revert or kill.

They will not stop until there is a Mosque in every square...

We are sleepwalking into a potential catastrophe.

'My dad works for Nintendo'

[Kizzy]

Spirit of 38.....

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by MTVN

He was cleared for release seven years ago. I suspect the fear with releasing Guantanamo inmates is with what they could reveal about practices there and that their time incarcerated could radicalise them even if they weren't before.

This is my opinion too, why else would you continue to hold someone for an additional 7 years after he was cleared for release. That alone justifies a compensation claim

[Livia]

Originally Posted by MTVN

He was cleared for release seven years ago. I suspect the fear with releasing Guantanamo inmates is with what they could reveal about practices there and that their time incarcerated could radicalise them even if they weren't before.

If they were worried about that, I suspect he would have "died of natural causes" long before being released.

He's a British resident but a Saudi national. I wonder why he isn't leading his compensation claim from Saudi Arabia, as he has such a case against the British? Could it be because there are people incarcerated in Saudi, without trial, for longer than he's been at Guantanamo? Why, if he is so against the British government, has he chosen to return here?

[Kizzy]

Hmmm, does 'died of natural causes' mean he would be bumped off?
He has no case against the Saudis as it wasn't them who put him or kept him there, there are all kinds of justice across the globe it's irrelevant though.
He and his family live here, that is why he is returning.