[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

You clearly know absolutely nothing about Islam, and are living in a dreamworld if you think they will be content to all live side by side and just "get on".

I'm not saying all Muslims are terrorists that is ridiculous but their religion is at odds against all NON Muslim religions and they will never, ever integrate into your cosy little world view. They are tasked with trying to spread their evil hate filled toxic "religion" at all costs. and whether they do it through direct force ie terrorism/direct military action or the slow game where they establish themselves in ever increasing numbers through high Birth rates etc... the fact is they are not interested in this Country, it's religion, culture or it's peoples they only want this country as part of a wider global Caliphate.

Why do so many people have trouble in understanding this...

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

It's not a colloquialism, it's an Americanism.

And I made it clear that I understand that the overwhelming majority of muslims in the UK are not terrorist... but that there are a very small minority who are, or who are linked to terrorist organisations.

Nope...

In the main varieties of English from outside North America, the past participle of get in all its senses is usually got. Gotten appears occasionally, and it is standard in a few set phrases such as ill-gotten gains, but the shorter form prevails by a large margin.

That gotten is primarily used in North America has given rise to the mistaken belief that it is American in origin and hence new and inferior. But gotten is in fact an old form, predating the United States and Canada by several centuries. It fell out of favor in British English by the 18th century

http://grammarist.com/usage/got-gotten/

I have never suggested that no Muslim has ever committed a terrorist act, once again it was the inference in some posts that I objected to.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Livia

If I had your irrational complacency about the security of our country...

You'd be Jeremy Corbyn....

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Nope...

In the main varieties of English from outside North America, the past participle of get in all its senses is usually got. Gotten appears occasionally, and it is standard in a few set phrases such as ill-gotten gains, but the shorter form prevails by a large margin.

That gotten is primarily used in North America has given rise to the mistaken belief that it is American in origin and hence new and inferior. But gotten is in fact an old form, predating the United States and Canada by several centuries. It fell out of favor in British English by the 18th century

http://grammarist.com/usage/got-gotten/

I have never suggested that no Muslim has ever committed a terrorist act, once again it was the inference in some posts that I objected to.

No amount of Googling, cutting and pasting will make "gotten" acceptable in modern British English, Kizzy. It was once acceptable but not for about two hundred years... like you yourself posted! We used to use a Z in words like colonize and dramatize... but it's not acceptable now. But hey, if you think it's okay to use an outdated term, you crack on.

I don't understand why you were addressing your inference from other posts to my replies though. Strange... because I don't feel I said anything at all anti-muslim.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

No amount of Googling, cutting and pasting will make "gotten" acceptable in modern British English, Kizzy. It was once acceptable but not for about two hundred years... like you yourself posted! We used to use a Z in words like colonize and dramatize... but it's not acceptable now. But hey, if you think it's okay to use an outdated term, you crack on.

I don't understand why you were addressing your inference from other posts to my replies though. Strange... because I don't feel I said anything at all anti-muslim.

Why are you fixating on my choice of words?

And I haven't accused you of anything, I won't repeat myself as I have made my view perfectly clear.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

You'd be Jeremy Corbyn....

LOL...

[kirklancaster]

I'll tell you what's 'Irrational and hysterical in equal measure';

The continued blindness and denial of the very real, well documented threat of the murdering, terrorist fanatatics who are Muslim extremists - despite the irrefutable evidence - THAT IS IRRATIONAL.

And the way that the words; 'Racist' and 'Xenophobia' are pulled from the hat like white rabbits every time someone tells the truth about Muslim Terrorists, or Unfettered Immigration - THAT IS HYSTERICAL.

I am sick to death of seeing those words - no wonder Serious Debate is in decline.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

You'd be Jeremy Corbyn....

Maestro - a classic.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I'll tell you what's 'Irrational and hysterical in equal measure';

The continued blindness and denial of the very real, well documented threat of the murdering, terrorist fanatatics who are Muslim extremists - despite the irrefutable evidence - THAT IS IRRATIONAL.

And the way that the words; 'Racist' and 'Xenophobia' are pulled from the hat like white rabbits every time someone tells the truth about Muslim Terrorists, or Unfettered Immigration - THAT IS HYSTERICAL.

I am sick to death of seeing those words - no wonder Serious Debate is in decline.

Why use my choice of words to highlight this?

I haven't accused anyone of being racist or xenophobic.
Nor have I denied that acts of terrorism by Muslims have happened in the UK.

People having differing views is good for serious debates I would've thought?

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

You .................................................. ................The point.

You could at least be honest with your intent and not make up imaginary 'friends that work with the security services.' Not one person on here believes that you have a friend like that. If it's all so hush hush then why are you betraying your imaginary friend's trust by spilling it online?

You're just lying to try to justify your random inane bile.

Sorry to disappoint but I do actually have a good friend who works for the anti terrorism branch of the Met police SO13 now SO15. He can't really discuss operational issues but can tell me stories which would make your blood curdle.

Not lies, not bull**** .... Simply the truth as to what is going on in your safe little world.

I'm sorry you think I come onto this forum to spread inane random bile, I have no agenda am not racist but do love my Country , my Christian beliefs and my Culture and do think we have a duty to alert our fellow man when those values are threatened.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Sorry to disappoint but I do actually have a good friend who works for the anti terrorism branch of the Met police SO13 now SO15. He can't really discuss operational issues but can tell me stories which would make your blood curdle.

Not lies, not bull**** .... Simply the truth as to what is going on in your safe little world.

I'm sorry you think I come onto this forum to spread inane random bile, I have no agenda am not racist but do love my Country , my Christian beliefs and my Culture and do think we have a duty to alert our fellow man when those values are threatened.

You tell ha Nedusa

[Livia]

I keep reading this thread as "Fred Guantanamo...".

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Livia

I keep reading this thread as "Fred Guantanamo...".

It would make more sense than some of the posts.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Sorry to disappoint but I do actually have a good friend who works for the anti terrorism branch of the Met police SO13 now SO15. He can't really discuss operational issues but can tell me stories which would make your blood curdle.

Not lies, not bull**** .... Simply the truth as to what is going on in your safe little world.

I'm sorry you think I come onto this forum to spread inane random bile, I have no agenda am not racist but do love my Country , my Christian beliefs and my Culture and do think we have a duty to alert our fellow man when those values are threatened.

That does nothing to make me believe that this 'friend' of yours actually exists and if he does then you're a terrible friend for divulging information that he told you in confidence but that doesn't matter, because he doesn't exist and you're just using this imaginary friend to justify your hate speech.

Never mind the hypocrisy of a religious person hating another religion for being violent when all religions are both based on and built upon violence.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

It would make more sense than some of the posts.

Which ones, are you mocking anyone in particular or anyone with a view different to yours?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Which ones, are you mocking anyone in particular or anyone with a view different to yours?

I'm passing a very clearly JOCULAR opinion on POSTS NOT MEMBERS. Bye.

[Johnnyuk123]

Lets just say that for instance the people from Switzerland populated the UK on mass and openly spoke out about their hate towards the uk whilst recieving free housing and benefits? Is it rude of the british public to simply suggest that if they do not like it here and they continue to refuse to intergrate that they simply go back to their own country or too another country who holds their point of view?

[MTVN]

The Briton held at Guantanamo Bay for 14 years said last night that Muslims who support terror attacks have no right to live in this country – and demanded would-be jihadis 'get the hell out'.

Shaker Aamer has spent five days talking to The Mail on Sunday in a series of world exclusive interviews – his first since his release.

Courageously, he made his angriest comments about Muslims who plot terror in Britain, even though he was tortured, beaten and held for 5,007 days at Guantanamo under suspicion of terrorist activities without ever being charged. He has been cleared by the US twice.

He also expressed revulsion at the murder of hostages by Islamic State, saying the extremist group's treatment of prisoners had abused basic principles of Islamic law.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3u9NBmIoc
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Remarkable really, good on him

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Remarkable really, good on him

I can see where he is coming from. There are going to be many more people locked up because this environment exists, and innocents may well get caught up in it.

[arista]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Remarkable really, good on him

[DemolitionRed]

Wait, are some here suggesting that all those thorough investigations that proved this guys innocence a sham? I have to ask those people, do you believe our legal system is just a very naive bunch? or is it actually corrupt?

[billy123]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Sorry to disappoint but I do actually have a good friend who works for the anti terrorism branch of the Met police SO13 now SO15. He can't really discuss operational issues but can tell me stories which would make your blood curdle.

Not lies, not bull**** .... Simply the truth as to what is going on in your safe little world.

I'm sorry you think I come onto this forum to spread inane random bile, I have no agenda am not racist but do love my Country , my Christian beliefs and my Culture and do think we have a duty to alert our fellow man when those values are threatened.

Your posts lately are starting to sound like the rants of an angry extremist.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I'll tell you what's 'Irrational and hysterical in equal measure';

The continued blindness and denial of the very real, well documented threat of the murdering, terrorist fanatatics who are Muslim extremists - despite the irrefutable evidence - THAT IS IRRATIONAL.

And the way that the words; 'Racist' and 'Xenophobia' are pulled from the hat like white rabbits every time someone tells the truth about Muslim Terrorists, or Unfettered Immigration - THAT IS HYSTERICAL.

I am sick to death of seeing those words - no wonder Serious Debate is in decline.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Your posts lately are starting to sound like the rants of an angry extremist.

substitute the word extremist for patriot and you would be correct...

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

'My dad works for Nintendo'