[belle777]

Heavy & Lewis antagonising each other. are there insecurities involved there?
is Heavy's aggressive behaviour hiding other issues ?
is Lewis unable to relate to Heavy because he is a little rough ? he also often refers to him as "big" and "greedy"! Lewis is not exactly that refined himself. but then again non of the housemates selected for their social refinements.
it would have been nice if they got all the Alcohol out on the table and got a system of sorting it in the open. Lewis and other house mates including Marnie did act sneakily re wine and alcohol.
at the BB house they have a limited and rationed amount of food and Alcohol! they should be sharing it fairly. If Marnie has some food intolerance she should have made arrangements before entering the BB house i can't recall the name , but there was someone in the BB who had food intolerance. BB made suitable arrangements for them. Lewis& Heavy certainly have a clash of personalities. today's episode hit the fan from the beginning with Frankie V Bear!

tells you something when a Mafioso related woman is not nominated and Bear is nominated weekly . Britain can not forgive bad manners ( not the band : P )

Lewis is fast to puff up his chest and behave in a threatening manner. Heavy was getting his fists up but he didn't seem as serious to me. just because someone is big does not mean they are strong. or menacing. there is a lot of domination issues going on on this house and i don't have a favourite. i hope one day the bbUK will not make it obligatory to have a winner. so the public can show their total disapproval!

[hot2go]

The biggest difference between these two is about twenty years ....Heavy D is a prized pillock ....it's like watching a care in the community documentary.

[jet]

Originally Posted by hot2go

The biggest difference between these two is about twenty years ....Heavy D is a prized pillock ....it's like watching a care in the community documentary.

Really? Yet Heavy D is the only one who has managed to rile up the riler - uppers and get them all hot and bothered. He single - handedly exposed Lewis's weakness's, took the spotlight off a very silent and subdued Bear and didn't succumb to outright anger when Lewis insisted he say 'please' and 'thank you' for letting him have a little wine after he and Marnie pilfered most of it for themselves. He doesn't need any community care thank you very much, he took on the bullies tonight and made them look like the pillocks.
He was winding up with a surprising dollop of humour considering how he was treated and I thought wind up merchants were revered this series?
But of course he's at risk on the next eviction because he has a big wobbly belly and isn't good looking...I get it now....

[hot2go]

His body type or looks are not relevant to me as they aren't in any housemate ... I just don't like him..., I can't stand the volume and the performance .... I should love him winding up the young lads but I don't ... I love the rivalry between Aubrey and Bear and between Frankie and bear but I just don't like Heavy D... I disliked him as soon as he entered the house and that dislike was cemented when he spoke so badly to Chloe... I don't like women being talked about and treated like that... I don't respect the dumb act that he obv uses as his celebrity image, it's not what interests me in any way and he's too old to pull it off ... Sorry if you think that's dismissive but it's the way it is... He is exactly the type of person I don't like in real life. I don't know how they are all enduring being locked up with him, I really don't.

[hot2go]

Lewis is an idiot but if he's still the same when he's Heavys age he too will be a bigger idiot on the same scale as Heavy D.

[jet]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Lewis is an idiot but if he's still the same when he's Heavys age he too will be a bigger idiot on the same scale as Heavy D.

So it's okay for Lewis to steal drink and then goad Heavy, asking him to say please and thank you for kindly giving up some wine, trying to humiliate and degrade him. It's okay for Lewis to say at least he's got a bird (so respectful to women) and call Heavy names about his weight a few days ago. It's okay because Lewis is younger than Heavy? Are you serious?

[jet]

Originally Posted by hot2go

His body type or looks are not relevant to me as they aren't in any housemate ... I just don't like him..., I can't stand the volume and the performance .... I should love him winding up the young lads but I don't ... I love the rivalry between Aubrey and Bear and between Frankie and bear but I just don't like Heavy D... I disliked him as soon as he entered the house and that dislike was cemented when he spoke so badly to Chloe... I don't like women being talked about and treated like that... I don't respect the dumb act that he obv uses as his celebrity image, it's not what interests me in any way and he's too old to pull it off ... Sorry if you think that's dismissive but it's the way it is... He is exactly the type of person I don't like in real life. I don't know how they are all enduring being locked up with him, I really don't.

I didn't like him much (he can be pretty annoying) or rate him until tonight. I thought you would too going by what you always said you admired in a HM. You say 'he's too old to pull it off' - I didn't realise you had an age limit as to who could be eligible for being a winder - upper.
Maybe you just don't like that he came out better and smarter tonight than the 'squad'. That he didn't let Lewis make him lose it over the alcohol and instead turned it around and made Lewis lose it (and Marnie too). And Bear became small and insignificant like he did when faced with the big security guard and said little. If you were being true to your previous statements of what you like in HM's, then you would admire Heavy for his show tonight, whether you actually like him or not shouldn't come into it.

[empire]

lewis thinks that because he has the perfect body and perfect looks, and he sees heavy d as not perfect, in his mind heavy d should be ridiculed and humiliated and also berated, lewis and marnie talk about him in a very berated way,

[Vanessa]

Bear trying to break up a fight. Who would have thought?

[Mick]

What i found interesting was that Lewis appeared genuinely shocked that he was nominated.Mr Boom i just feel sad clown yet when it comes to the public vote this might work for him.Lewis has back footed himself and Bear has the opportunity to play one off against the other.An interesting few days await.The three of them are all mouth and trousers giving it large while hiding behind the big brothers skirts.?

[joeysteele]

Lewis and Marnie were wrong to hide any alcohol.
I am actually surprised BB allowed them to.

So for that I realise heavy D suspected there should be more and kept a watch as to how things went.

However, Heavy D to me could be the most aggressive in there now, he does fume, he has anger and frustration smouldering inside and then lets fly.
He goads others into challenging him ad then in the diary room says meekly, he is sorry and calms right down, so nothing is done.

He was part of the winding up of James before the food fight incident too, so he is too a very capable wind up merchant.

I would not trust Heavy D myself,the smile hides a lot more of his bad side than we actually see and he got what he wanted last night, a way to get at Lewis, mainly for being bears associate,using the alcohol as an excuse and using Marnie too to try to enrage Lewis.

Lewis however came across as looking rather daft in his challenging of Heavy D,something heavy D was again able to use, to make himself look the better man despite again being the initial 'starter' of the incident and getting away with a little cosy chat for doing so.

They should all do their best to avoid heavy D and let him get so mad they do, that he really blows his top and we get to see how awful he really is likely.
If I was in, when he has that daft smile on his face,hiding his real intentions,I would just keep smiling back at him, refusing to engage on anything with him really,that would wind him up far more than falling into the trap of 'comical' challenges, as Lewis fell for last night.

Although as I said earlier, Lewis and Marnie were wrong to hide alcohol,on the other side however no one else even noticed that or were bothered, only heavy D, who also is very adept at making sure he gets airtime.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by jet

Really? Yet Heavy D is the only one who has managed to rile up the riler - uppers and get them all hot and bothered. He single - handedly exposed Lewis's weakness's, took the spotlight off a very silent and subdued Bear and didn't succumb to outright anger when Lewis insisted he say 'please' and 'thank you' for letting him have a little wine after he and Marnie pilfered most of it for themselves. He doesn't need any community care thank you very much, he took on the bullies tonight and made them look like the pillocks.
He was winding up with a surprising dollop of humour considering how he was treated and I thought wind up merchants were revered this series?
But of course he's at risk on the next eviction because he has a big wobbly belly and isn't good looking...I get it now....

Originally Posted by jet

I didn't like him much (he can be pretty annoying) or rate him until tonight. I thought you would too going by what you always said you admired in a HM. You say 'he's too old to pull it off' - I didn't realise you had an age limit as to who could be eligible for being a winder - upper.
Maybe you just don't like that he came out better and smarter tonight than the 'squad'. That he didn't let Lewis make him lose it over the alcohol and instead turned it around and made Lewis lose it (and Marnie too). And Bear became small and insignificant like he did when faced with the big security guard and said little. If you were being true to your previous statements of what you like in HM's, then you would admire Heavy for his show tonight, whether you actually like him or not shouldn't come into it.

..I can't say that I like Heavy D as such, Jet because he is annoying/childish and can behave quite badly and I'm not excusing any of that but at least with Heavy, there is some level of understanding for me...they're not really I don't think 'winding him up' as such but more trying to 'put him in his place' and for him to know his place little girl or whatever it was that Aislene said to Nikki and he's definitely not knowing his place atm......because they're not able to control him or have the influence over him I should say, as they did at the beginning when he was also a part of their 'squad'...(and I have to say that, that didn't show him in a great light either to be part of it..)...anyways, yes he has a big wobbly belly, while Lewis is a beautiful people....and is only Storage Wars..(which he needs to go back to and be a flop in according to Lewis..)..whereas Lewis is Towie and Bear is Ex on the Beach and Marnie is Geordie Shore so he really is stepping above his station here....he needs to say these pleases and these thank yous and worship the very ground for every morsel they allow him and be good and grateful for because they allowed him into their squad...but then the problem was, he went and thought he was equal in being in that squad and what the heck with that..?...I mean really..?...they can have the food and the drink and whatever because they get to decide who gets the food and the drink and whatever they feel their self-entitlements to and they'll decide what others can have as well... (it's annoying when people don't comply with that, is it not..?..)...and more annoying still when those others aren't even as beautiful and cheeky chappy and adorably and entertaing-ly as wind-up as us....sadly though, I think that they may be right in that I fear that the popularity of their reality shows may win in the voting and also that his annoying personality will very much go against him as well because he hasn't endeared really ..and then always the factor as well that some voting may be 'they're hot and he's not' motivated....

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by hot2go

The biggest difference between these two is about twenty years ....Heavy D is a prized pillock ....it's like watching a care in the community documentary.

He cannot even string a sentence together

[rubymoo]

I think one of my favourite moments has to now be Heavy D bobbing and weaving like a boxer

[user104658]

Heavy D is riddled with insecurities and is a coiled spring of passive-aggression. Not because of anyone else in there or because of developing situations - that's just who he is. The whole "BOOM" persona, the "colourful" suits, the completely faked laugh and grin. He was all of that on launch night before he met any of them.

The rest of them are really just playing games, if there's anyone in there who could GENUINELY flip their lid it's Heavy D.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Heavy D is riddled with insecurities and is a coiled spring of passive-aggression. Not because of anyone else in there or because of developing situations - that's just who he is. The whole "BOOM" persona, the "colourful" suits, the completely faked laugh and grin. He was all of that on launch night before he met any of them.

The rest of them are really just playing games, if there's anyone in there who could GENUINELY flip their lid it's Heavy D.

He tried to start a fight and that's not cool

[Semtex]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

I think one of my favourite moments has to now be Heavy D bobbing and weaving like a boxer

Don't fight the Bloor, unless you want to end up on your..... Oh hang on, yes fight the Bloor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYyvRetZA3o


His ego is always writing cheques that his twatishness can't cash.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

I think one of my favourite moments has to now be Heavy D bobbing and weaving like a boxer

Like a 2 yr old

[Semtex]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Like a 2 yr old

How dare he not show the maturity that Bear, Lewis & Marnie have shown.....

Mug!

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Semtex

Don't fight the Bloor, unless you want to end up on your..... Oh hang on, yes fight the Bloor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYyvRetZA3o


His ego is always writing cheques that his twatishness can't cash.

Let's be fair though...



Not exactly Heavy D

[jet]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I can't say that I like Heavy D as such, Jet because he is annoying/childish and can behave quite badly and I'm not excusing any of that but at least with Heavy, there is some level of understanding for me...they're not really I don't think 'winding him up' as such but more trying to 'put him in his place' and for him to know his place little girl or whatever it was that Aislene said to Nikki and he's definitely not knowing his place atm......because they're not able to control him or have the influence over him I should say, as they did at the beginning when he was also a part of their 'squad'...(and I have to say that, that didn't show him in a great light either to be part of it..)...anyways, yes he has a big wobbly belly, while Lewis is a beautiful people....and is only Storage Wars..(which he needs to go back to and be a flop in according to Lewis..)..whereas Lewis is Towie and Bear is Ex on the Beach and Marnie is Geordie Shore so he really is stepping above his station here....he needs to say these pleases and these thank yous and worship the very ground for every morsel they allow him and be good and grateful for because they allowed him into their squad...but then the problem was, he went and thought he was equal in being in that squad and what the heck with that..?...I mean really..?...they can have the food and the drink and whatever because they get to decide who gets the food and the drink and whatever they feel their self-entitlements to and they'll decide what others can have as well... (it's annoying when people don't comply with that, is it not..?..)...and more annoying still when those others aren't even as beautiful and cheeky chappy and adorably and entertaing-ly as wind-up as us....sadly though, I think that they may be right in that I fear that the popularity of their reality shows may win in the voting and also that his annoying personality will very much go against him as well because he hasn't endeared really ..and then always the factor as well that some voting may be 'they're hot and he's not' motivated....

You have it to a T Ammi.
I can't say he's a favourite of mine (I don't have one this series, Frankie is closest and I like Ricky and Sam) - yes, he can be very annoying but anyone who manages to give the awful trio a taste of their own medicine has a vote to save from me. I was about to give up on the series but I'll stick around a few more days to see how the eviction pans out. I think either Lewis or Bear going would change the dynamics in the house and break up the awful pattern the series is stuck in at present.

[Semtex]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Let's be fair though...



Not exactly Heavy D

I concur, but he's still all mouth and no trousers.

It's not the size of the dog in the fight.......

Bloor is a Chihuahua but sadly with the heart of Edmund Blackadder.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by jet

So it's okay for Lewis to steal drink and then goad Heavy, asking him to say please and thank you for kindly giving up some wine, trying to humiliate and degrade him. It's okay for Lewis to say at least he's got a bird (so respectful to women) and call Heavy names about his weight a few days ago. It's okay because Lewis is younger than Heavy? Are you serious?

Jet you are getting me confused with someone else because nothing you are saying is correct.... I don't like Lewis....I've repeatedly posted about him calling the females birds and telling them they are good girls ...I may well have been the first person on here to say that...and as recently as this week end I have been saying that.
When did I call Heavy D names about his weight ? When ? And what's younger got to do with it... You forget I was team Jason....these things you're saying are not fare Jet... just accept that I don't like the guy just like I have to accept others don't like Bear....we all have certain types we can't stand and unfortunately mine always seem to popular with the majority ...,I can't cow tail to people just because they think Heavy is a legend or Biggins is a National Treasure.., I cant stand either
As for Lewis taking drink and patronising Heavy I would like to know the reason why if different to the reason they gave....seemed a random thing to do and knowing how inconsiderate Heavy is I tend to believe them even though they themselves were being sly and inconsiderate too.
His lack of respect for women and his lack of respect for volume control around the others, esp first thing in the morning is exactly what brings me to believe he could have a lack of respect for people's drinks.
But one thing is certain, disliking Marnie and Lewis does not make me dislike Heavy any less....he is the worst by a mile for me and I don't feel sorry for him in any way.

[hot2go]

James Jordan loved to wind people up and he is older than Heavy D ....and I loved watching him .... You are never too old to wind people up.... Heavy D is too old to act and talk the way he does, he thinks he's a teenager....nothing to do with weather he winds people up, he's just immature and seems either unable to reflect himself or too arrogant to care... Or maybe and more likely, too stupid to know he's doing it..,.I find that really irritating in people his age ..,, there is a cut off point and he's past that point IMO...
So as I began saying at the start of this thread, the biggest difference between the two for me is their age.... But I am not a fan of either.

[Jan S]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

He cannot even string a sentence together

on the contrary, his diary room chats and noms show the complete reverse. early on in the series, when BB decided to air some parts of his conversations with other housemates regarding strategies and so on out in the garden, he displayed an ability to connect the dots and understand the machinations, to formulate and conceptualise. the man is not an idiot - the persona IS, and it's what he uses as a shield and as a tool to bait when he sees it will do the job - like in last night's show - and something he's built an income on. cannot STAND his persona, but would like to get to know more about the man, his background, what makes him tick and not just the noise of his BOOM!

Originally Posted by hot2go

The biggest difference between these two is about twenty years ....Heavy D is a prized pillock ....it's like watching a care in the community documentary.