[Liberty4eva]

For the Brits who want to hear this, he was on American talk radio yesterday. I think he has a man-crush on Mr. Trump.

Youtube video

[Niamh.]

Peas in a pod I guess

[Toy Soldier]

Of course he has a man crush on him, he sees him as a door to the sort of real political clout he hasn't been able to achieve by himself in the UK. How ironic though, that he's clearly interested in that sort of influence as a personal ambition even when it has absolutely nothing to do with his precious Britain . True colours, eh...

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Of course he has a man crush on him, he sees him as a door to the sort of real political clout he hasn't been able to achieve by himself in the UK. How ironic though, that he's clearly interested in that sort of influence as a personal ambition even when it has absolutely nothing to do with his precious Britain . True colours, eh...

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Of course he has a man crush on him, he sees him as a door to the sort of real political clout he hasn't been able to achieve by himself in the UK. How ironic though, that he's clearly interested in that sort of influence as a personal ambition even when it has absolutely nothing to do with his precious Britain . True colours, eh...

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Peas in a pod I guess

yes the term you're searching for is...winners!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

yes the term you're searching for is...winners!

Racist assholes more like

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Racist assholes more like

nope. that foul abusive language of the left says more about them than those you criticise. No one is more ignorant , intolerant, judgemental, biased, sexist, than the loony left...they even hate their own country so much they would allow illegal immigration and potential terrorsts. its not racist to protect your country and your borders , its perfect common sense.

[Black Dagger]

Calling people judgemental then calling people lunatics for their political stance.

Get some self awareness hun x

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Black Dagger

Calling people judgemental then calling people lunatics for their political stance.

Get some self awareness hun x

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Of course he has a man crush on him, he sees him as a door to the sort of real political clout he hasn't been able to achieve by himself in the UK. How ironic though, that he's clearly interested in that sort of influence as a personal ambition even when it has absolutely nothing to do with his precious Britain . True colours, eh...

What true colours, the two countries have always been alies and a good relationship between the two men benefits Britain. These two men have changed political history and have thrown a Hugh spanner in the works to the liberal elites and their increasingly unpopular politically nonsensical views.

But we certainly saw some true colours when the remoaners and Clinton supporters threw their massive tantrums. There really is nothing so sad as a sore loser.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

What true colours, the two countries have always been alies and a good relationship between the two men benefits Britain. These two men have changed political history and have thrown a Hugh spanner in the works to the liberal elites and their increasingly unpopular politically nonsensical views.

But we certainly saw some true colours when the remoaners and Clinton supporters threw their massive tantrums. There really is nothing so sad as a sore loser.

How about a smug gloater?

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

What true colours, the two countries have always been alies and a good relationship between the two men benefits Britain.

How? He holds no political position in Britain? Is it just because he happens to be British? He will be working for America, involving their relationship with the EU (which Britain will not be part of). What does that have to do with Britain?

[arista]

Hannity and Colmes



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannity_%26_Colmes

was better it when it was
Left and Right


But Colmes Left
as Hannity was bullying him.



Alan Colmes it's a good balance when
he comes on the Daytime Shows
they respect him , more



And he has a Radio Show
on Fox Radio , as well
so at least he gets by.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

What true colours, the two countries have always been alies and a good relationship between the two men benefits Britain. These two men have changed political history and have thrown a Hugh spanner in the works to the liberal elites and their increasingly unpopular politically nonsensical views.

But we certainly saw some true colours when the remoaners and Clinton supporters threw their massive tantrums. There really is nothing so sad as a sore loser.

If Brexit and Trump lost we would have had riots. Seems a bit rich to want to repress people from being peacefully unhappy about a result when Violence would have likely occurred had the results been reversed.

Hell, racially charged incidents increased when Brexit and Trump won as the bigots became emboldened by the result. If we have a noticeable rise in violent crime when one side wins, just imagine what would have happened if they lost.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

What true colours, the two countries have always been alies and a good relationship between the two men benefits Britain. These two men have changed political history and have thrown a Hugh spanner in the works to the liberal elites and their increasingly unpopular politically nonsensical views.

But we certainly saw some true colours when the remoaners and Clinton supporters threw their massive tantrums. There really is nothing so sad as a sore loser.

Where is the evidence anything these two have ever said or done has or will benefit Britain?... I see nothing, except the omishambles that is brexit and a megalomaniac in the white house :/

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Of course he has a man crush on him, he sees him as a door to the sort of real political clout he hasn't been able to achieve by himself in the UK. How ironic though, that he's clearly interested in that sort of influence as a personal ambition even when it has absolutely nothing to do with his precious Britain . True colours, eh...

This is NOTHING but PERSONAL CONJECTURE T.S., dressed up as factual statement.

No one KNOWS just what Farage's motives are, but Nigel Farage himself, and what is 'Real Political Clout'? How do we define it?

Is it a long ensconced Prime Minister such as David Cameron, who has ALL the mighty powers of the Establishment, the Corporations, The Civil Service, and 99% of the Media supporting him, in addition to a Bottomless Bucket of Public Money which he can appropriate - seemingly unchallenged - to help fund propaganda literature whenever he sees fit, BUT yet, still CANNOT secure his political objectives?

Is it the 'Leader' of Her Majesty's Opposition Party, Jeremy Corbyn, who leads the LARGEST by far, political party in the UK, and who enjoys support only marginally secondary to Cameron's party, but who is as politically impotent a politician as there has ever been in British Politics?

Or could it be Nigel Farage - who IN SPITE of enjoying NONE of the huge advantages enjoyed by the above, and DESPITE having the full force of the BBC and Channel 4, virtually EVERY British newspaper, and the huge ESTABLISHMENT and CORPORATE propaganda machines VICIOUSLY, UNFAIRLY, and SADISTICALLY ranged against him, single-handedly and from NOWHERE, built Ukip up into the third largest party in the UK, REVERSED decades of voter apathy, RESTORED some measure of DEMOCRACY BACK INTO THE HANDS of the ordinary British People, and SUCCEEDED in his overriding political ambition – to see the UK vote to leave the corrupt European Union.

From being a schoolboy, Farage has spent a LIFETIME in politics. He was a member of the Conservative Party until quitting in protest in 1992 at the corrupt John Major's now thoroughly discredited signing of The Maastricht Treaty - an early sign then of Farage's insight and true integrity, and formed Ukip the year after.

When ANY man retires after a lifetime of hard work (and Farage is one of the hardest working politicians this country has ever seen) has he no rights to do what he likes with his life?

Some retired men take up Golf, painting, travelling the world, gardening etc, but how many men who do so would refuse an offer of a job with the President of The United States of America?

And having for so long elected to serve his country in politics instead of serving himself, at much cost to his income, has Farage no rights, to think about a lucrative position which is above board and legal?

Compare Farage with any one of HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS of other serving and ex-serving British Politicians of ALL Parties - Prime Ministers among them - who have CORRUPTLY LINED their own pockets by LOBBYING for huge Multi National Corporations AGAINST the interests of the same British People who elected them, only to then take very lucrative jobs with those same corporations once leaving (or being FORCED to leave) politics.

NO ONE KNOWS just what Farage's new post entails, therefore no one can state with anything but pure SPECULATION, that the duties of such a post will not afford Farage the opportunity to continue to pursue the two political loves of his life - exposing the corrupt EU, and strengthening the UK's position in the world.

I would delight in any Tibb member rationally, logically, reasonably and amicably and FACTUALLY discussing just WHY they HATE Farage so much. WHAT has he ACTUALLY done to deserve such hatred and contempt?

I'm HERE to discuss.

In the meantime; I will predict; that just as history has proved how corrupt men like HEATH, BLAIR, MAJOR and others REALLY were, then it will ONE DAY exonerate the much wrongfully maligned Nigel Farage.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

If Brexit and Trump lost we would have had riots. Seems a bit rich to want to repress people from being peacefully unhappy about a result when Violence would have likely occurred had the results been reversed.

Hell, racially charged incidents increased when Brexit and Trump won as the bigots became emboldened by the result. If we have a noticeable rise in violent crime when one side wins, just imagine what would have happened if they lost.

All ifs and buts, the only violence I have seen has been from the Clinton supporters.

For all their attempted taking the moral high ground those spewing all their liberal ideology have been the ones acting like thugs.

Clearly the thought of the 'other side' fighting back at the negative effects their Wooly-headed views are having on our countries has put them into panic mode - hence the emergence of said true colours.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Where is the evidence anything these two have ever said or done has or will benefit Britain?... I see nothing, except the omishambles that is brexit and a megalomaniac in the white house :/

Brexit is NOT any 'omnishambles' - It is the result of a DEMOCRATIC REFERENDUM of those British Citizens who could be bothered to actively participate, and it is the post referendum skullduggery by Foreign Corporations with HUGE vested interests in REMAINING in the Gravy Train which is the EU, which is THE real problem.

The corrupt EU has had 40 + years in which to entangle us and bind us in its very, very, complex and convoluted, bureaucratic and legal tentacles, and NO disentanglement is, or was, EVER going to be a simple, overnight matter of 'electing to separate'.

No matter how true in essence, the explanatory statements from Gina Miller: "We are taking this challenge to clarify the procedural steps necessary for the UK to trigger Article 50 in line with the UK constitution" and "We will be making the argument that the correct constitutional process of parliamentary scrutiny and approval as well as consultation with the devolved administration in Scotland and Northern Ireland and the Welsh Assembly needs to be followed. Otherwise the notice to withdraw from the European Union would be unlawful and subject to legal challenge." is but a cloak which masks the very real motives behind this challenge.

To any IMPARTIAL logical UK citizen who TRULY believes in DEMOCRACY - Nigel Farage has done more single-handedly to wrench control of our democracy away from the rich elites who have manipulated it for decades, and place it back in the hands of the electorate.

Gina Miller and her corporate cronies are merely attempting to reverse the above.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

All ifs and buts, the only violence I have seen has been from the Clinton supporters.

For all their attempted taking the moral high ground those spewing all their liberal ideology have been the ones acting like thugs.

Clearly the thought of the 'other side' fighting back at the negative effects their Wooly-headed views are having on our countries has put them into panic mode - hence the emergence of said true colours.

Absolutely and irrefutably CORRECT Brillopad.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Absolutely and irrefutably CORRECT Brillopad.

Thanks Kirk, given the quality of all your posts I am glad we are on the same 'side'. You know your stuff! Amazing posts.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

All ifs and buts, the only violence I have seen has been from the Clinton supporters.

For all their attempted taking the moral high ground those spewing all their liberal ideology have been the ones acting like thugs.

Clearly the thought of the 'other side' fighting back at the negative effects their Wooly-headed views are having on our countries has put them into panic mode - hence the emergence of said true colours.

...when it comes to violent acts I doubt that any 'true colours' have emerged at all..these are just negative/aggressive people who will act and have acted with physical violence as their communication regardless of political beliefs..it's an individuality thing, I think we all know that though...

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

All ifs and buts, the only violence I have seen has been from the Clinton supporters.

For all their attempted taking the moral high ground those spewing all their liberal ideology have been the ones acting like thugs.

Clearly the thought of the 'other side' fighting back at the negative effects their Wooly-headed views are having on our countries has put them into panic mode - hence the emergence of said true colours.

Just because you choose not to see something, doesn't mean it isn't happening.

There was a reported increase of racial violence after Brexit and incidents in America since Trump's victory has increased dramatically. No amount of reaching and pretending that peaceful protests are somehow considered acts of violence is going to change that.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Just because you choose not to see something, doesn't mean it isn't happening.

There was a reported increase of racial violence after Brexit and incidents in America since Trump's victory has increased dramatically. No amount of reaching and pretending that peaceful protests are somehow considered acts of violence is going to change that.

And just because you choose to see what you want to see does not mean it is.

Racial violence - what does that mean - does it show us who instigated such violence? I repeat the violence I have seen was from Clinton supporters who were doing a lot more than peaceful protest. No amount of wishful thinking and biased interpretation will change that.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

To any IMPARTIAL logical UK citizen who TRULY believes in DEMOCRACY - Nigel Farage has done more single-handedly to wrench control of our democracy away from the rich elites who have manipulated it for decades, and place it back in the hands of the electorate.

I find this very idealistic, Kirk. You could break it all down and say that, yes, removing us from the larger entity gives us more control but the reality is... a very few things that do not affect the day to day lives of the electorate will be altered by the government when outwith EU control and there will be decades of economic uncertainty, upheaval and decline in the process. And in the real world, NO control at all is in the hands of the electorate, it is instead firmly in the hands of the Tory elite governments, with currently no end in sight to that situation. Trying to paint it as a victory for the "man on the street" is just insane... that man has NO more control than he ever did. Westminster has more control than before. So what? Because they are British Elite instead of European Elite?