[chuff me dizzy]

I thought Raph didn't like being touched but was happy to let Andrew paint his nails

[Crimson Dynamo]

jesus wept



did they do the teddies nails too?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

jesus wept



did they do the teddies nails too?

Every chance, Raph wouldn't like Ted to feel left out

[Vanessa]

So? A hug and a kiss is not the same as painting nails. He also let Andrew ruffle his hair with no problems. It's the hugging and close contact he has a problem with.

[RhysJones]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

So? A hug and a kiss is not the same as painting nails. He also let Andrew ruffle his hair with no problems. It's the hugging and close contact he has a problem with.

I also guess getting a lap dance and necking on with Kieran is also fine, but hugging is an absolute no go

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by RhysJones

I also guess getting a lap dance and necking on with Kieran is also fine, but hugging is an absolute no go

Now playing flirting by letting Andrew paint his nails

[TaylorCallum]

Originally Posted by RhysJones

I also guess getting a lap dance and necking on with Kieran is also fine, but hugging is an absolute no go

He knew that both the lapdance and kiss with Kieran were going to happen in advance. Plus the kiss was likely a dare and you can see he even look flustered after the lapdance. Also just because he's comfortable with physical contact with one person doesn't mean he has to be with everyone.

[Withano]

Oh yeah, thats similar to getting an ear licked

[TaylorCallum]

One had Raph's consent, the other didn't.

One involved fingernails, the other involved getting licked/kissed on the neck against his will.

There is a bit of a difference. Anyway Raph even said himself he's going to try and get more comfortable with physical contact - not that he has to - so maybe this is one of the ways he's doing it.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by TaylorCallum

One had Raph's consent, the other didn't.

One involved fingernails, the other involved getting licked/kissed on the neck against his will.

There is a bit of a difference. Anyway Raph even said himself he's going to try and get more comfortable with physical contact - not that he has to - so maybe this is one of the ways he's doing it.

He was comfortable when he had his tongue down Kierons throat

[TaylorCallum]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

He was comfortable when he had his tongue down Kierons throat

That's because he consented to it. Kieran didn't jump on top of him and ram his tongue down his throat without any prior indication that it was going to happen.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by TaylorCallum

That's because he consented to it. Kieran didn't jump on top of him and ram his tongue down his throat without any prior indication that it was going to happen.

This! And it was a dare. I think he sees it differently.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

This! And it was a dare. I think he sees it differently.

Did he tell you this ?

[TaylorCallum]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Yes, he said that he would try. That's why he gave that hug to Andrew.

Exactly! And letting someone paint your nail isn't exactly the same as someone putting their tongue on you. People go to nail salons to get that done by strangers but not everyone is happy getting licked or kissed by strangers though.

Originally Posted by Vanessa

This! And it was a dare. I think he sees it differently.

Definitely. Not to mention he had known Kieran longer by that point than he has known Andrew. I don't understand why people think just because he might have been okay with a kiss from one person he's suddenly expected to just be sexual with everyone who makes a move on him. He could literally have had sex with Kieran in the house and that still would not have meant Andrew was justified in doing what he did. Baffling .

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by TaylorCallum

That's because he consented to it. Kieran didn't jump on top of him and ram his tongue down his throat without any prior indication that it was going to happen.

He's clearly been giving Andrew the come on or he wouldn't have licked his ear, he willingly walked over for a hug ,no one dragged him over

[TaylorCallum]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

He's clearly been giving Andrew the come on or he wouldn't have licked his ear, he willingly walked over for a hug ,no one dragged him over

That was just a hug though? I've given plenty of people a hug but I would be annoyed if most of them tried to lick my ear.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by TaylorCallum

One had Raph's consent, the other didn't.

One involved fingernails, the other involved getting licked/kissed on the neck against his will.

There is a bit of a difference. Anyway Raph even said himself he's going to try and get more comfortable with physical contact - not that he has to - so maybe this is one of the ways he's doing it.

Yes, he said that he would try. That's why he gave that hug to Andrew.

[Oaker]

Originally Posted by RhysJones

I also guess getting a lap dance and necking on with Kieran is also fine, but hugging is an absolute no go

Originally Posted by TaylorCallum

One had Raph's consent, the other didn't.

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[T*]

Y'all...

[Greg!]

Oh yes because getting your nails done is exactly the same as getting hugged and having your ear licked without permission. Jesus wept.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Greg!

Oh yes because getting your nails done is exactly the same as getting hugged and having your ear licked without permission. Jesus wept.

can you stop bringing jesus into it please..that offends the hell outta me.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Greg!

Oh yes because getting your nails done is exactly the same as getting hugged and having your ear licked without permission. Jesus wept.

It is really irritating.

As you and others say, someone right in your space and face uninvited is an absolutely massive world away from someone doing your nails.

I have no objection to anyone holding my hand for instance,if they were all around my face,a very different affair totally.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

It is really irritating.

As you and others say, someone right in your space and face uninvited is an absolutely massive world away from someone doing your nails.

I have no objection to anyone holding my hand for instance,if they were all around my face,a very different affair totally.

I like that he's trying to be more comfortable around people. Can't be easy for him. But he can do it

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I like that he's trying to be more comfortable around people. Can't be easy for him. But he can do it

Hes just socially inept and timid round people. His life experiences come from a laptop.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Hes just socially inept and timid round people. His life experiences come from a laptop.

and ps3