[jaxie]

https://amp.theguardian.com/commenti...dustry-animals

This was an interesting article. Lab grown meat makes me think of Star Trek replicators. Do you see a future without livestock farming? Could you take to eating lab grown meat?

[Niamh.]

If it tasted ok and had everything you need then surely its better than what we do to animals now

[smudgie]

Hell no.
Rather go vegetarian than lab grown anything.

[Vicky.]

If it tasted the same, I would eat it tbh I don't particularly carer where my food comes from or anything as long as its nice

[Jack_]

I only have two rules when it comes to food tbh, a) it tastes nice and b) it's not dangerous to me, so if lab meat fulfilled these two I'd have no problem

It's why I never really *got* the horse meat scandal a few years back. Like, obviously lying to consumers is completely reprehensible but much of the outrage was about 'ew! I don't want to eat horses!' and I just thought I couldn't care less what it is if it tastes nice. I find the whole monopoly of dignity people put on their home nation's domesticated animals a bit strange really, why is the life of a dog more important than a pig just because it could be a pet?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I only have two rules when it comes to food tbh, a) it tastes nice and b) it's not dangerous to me, so if lab meat fulfilled these two I'd have no problem

It's why I never really *got* the horse meat scandal a few years back. Like, obviously lying to consumers is completely reprehensible but much of the outrage was about 'ew! I don't want to eat horses!' and I just thought I couldn't care less what it is if it tastes nice. I find the whole monopoly of dignity people put on their home nation's domesticated animals a bit strange really, why is the life of a dog more important than a pig just because it could be a pet?

Yeah, I mean I prefer dogs and cats to pigs or cows but it seems a bit hypocritical to eat some animals but get all on the moral high ground about cultures who eat different animals

[user104658]

If it smells, tastes and has the texture of bacon then I'm all for it.

...if not then tbh I'm still gonna eat piggies .

[jaxie]

I'd definitely eat it if there were no health concerns and it tasted the same though you do wonder what would suddenly happen to all the herds. Can you imagine a world where cows are extinct?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I'd definitely eat it if there were no health concerns and it tasted the same though you do wonder what would suddenly happen to all the herds. Can you imagine a world where cows are extinct?

Yeah that's a point, I suppose they'd still keep sheep for wool having cows go extinct is surely better than breeding them for death though

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah that's a point, I suppose they'd still keep sheep for wool having cows go extinct is surely better than breeding them for death though

The bigger problem though isn't that you'd have to stop breeding more... if this all came about quite suddenly, rather than a gradual reduction in herd sizes / the number of farms, you'd have to actually cull the herds that are already alive. Keeping livestock is expensive, the expense is covered by them being sold for animal produce. If all of a sudden it's impossible to make any money (and therefore, impossible to support them) then you basically have to either deliberately kill them, or let them freeze / starve over winter.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The bigger problem though isn't that you'd have to stop breeding more... if this all came about quite suddenly, rather than a gradual reduction in herd sizes / the number of farms, you'd have to actually cull the herds that are already alive. Keeping livestock is expensive, the expense is covered by them being sold for animal produce. If all of a sudden it's impossible to make any money (and therefore, impossible to support them) then you basically have to either deliberately kill them, or let them freeze / starve over winter.

I'd imagine it would be a gradual thing anyway wouldn't it? That people could chose to eat real meat or lab meat and then start to phase it out altogether? Also, I mean is it that horrific to kill off a herd of cows when that's what happens to them all anyway when they're used for meat?

[Northern Monkey]

This could end vegetarianism which can only be a good thing

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I'd definitely eat it if there were no health concerns and it tasted the same though you do wonder what would suddenly happen to all the herds. Can you imagine a world where cows are extinct?

There would be a hell of alot less greenhouse gasses in the atmosphere.Great for the environment

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

This could end vegetarianism which can only be a good thing

Well yes, some vegetarians are healthy and know how to replace what they lose from meat, but a lot aren't. Theres a kid at my daughters school with vegan parents who have forced their beliefs onto their child and my god, she looks like a walking skeleton, grey tinge to her skin too...clearly not healthy. My daughter says she cries at school when others get stuff likle roast beef dinners, chicken burgers and stuff as she really wants it, poor kid.

(Apparently my daughter gave this kid her beef at one stage, as my daughter doesn't like beef anyway and the kid apparently loved it. Expecting hell on from the parents at some stage, but the teachers obviously did not see, or didn't tell them...so its only if the kid slips up and says something )

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

There would be a hell of alot less greenhouse gasses in the atmosphere.Great for the environment

yeah was thinking that too

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Well yes, some vegetarians are healthy and know how to replace what they lose from meat, but a lot aren't. Theres a kid at my daughters school with vegan parents who have forced their beliefs onto their child and my god, she looks like a walking skeleton, grey tinge to her skin too...clearly not healthy. My daughter says she cries at school when others get stuff likle roast beef dinners, chicken burgers and stuff as she really wants it, poor kid.

(Apparently my daughter gave this kid her beef at one stage, as my daughter doesn't like beef anyway and the kid apparently loved it. Expecting hell on from the parents at some stage, but the teachers obviously did not see, or didn't tell them...so its only if the kid slips up and says something )

Your daughter is only a baby herself, they can't blame her if they find out, I'm assuming she didn't force it down that girls throat .......

[Northern Monkey]

Also ending vegetarianism would be good for the environment.All those noxious cabbage farts must be burning holes in the ozone layer.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You're daughter is only a baby herself, they can't blame her if they find out, I'm assuming she didn't force it down that girls throat .......

No I doubt it Apparently this girl is always hanging round the kids on school dinners as she gets sent in with a lunchbox with nuts and stuff in. I find it really awful to do that to a kid if they are wanting meat tbh. Fair enough have your own beliefs and that, but kids...well IMO they do need meat and if they WANT meat its wrong to withhold it too.

I mean, all of this has came from a nearly 5 year old so I am not sure how much is true, but it sounds about right and she seems to be telling the truth about the slices of beef. I know the parents are militant vegans as they have a go at parents sometimes for random **** to do with eating meat. Never had a go at me yet, which I am looking forward to. Sometimes I do feel like rocking up at the school gate eating a chicken leg

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Well yes, some vegetarians are healthy and know how to replace what they lose from meat, but a lot aren't. Theres a kid at my daughters school with vegan parents who have forced their beliefs onto their child and my god, she looks like a walking skeleton, grey tinge to her skin too...clearly not healthy. My daughter says she cries at school when others get stuff likle roast beef dinners, chicken burgers and stuff as she really wants it, poor kid.

(Apparently my daughter gave this kid her beef at one stage, as my daughter doesn't like beef anyway and the kid apparently loved it. Expecting hell on from the parents at some stage, but the teachers obviously did not see, or didn't tell them...so its only if the kid slips up and says something )

Yeah I don’t think forcing veganism on kids is fair.Kids need protein.Veggy is ok as they can get it from cheese and eggs but veganism is like giving your kids an eating disorder from birth.If you don’t use supplements alongside a vegan diet you end up with all kinds of deficiencies down the line.
Also vegan diets can have the opposite effect and make people fatter.They eat a hell of alot of carbs which are the worst thing.Infact i’ve even seen a vegan slogan saying “carb up”.Irresponsible ****.

[Oliver_W]

I'd say let the markets decide - it should be available to buy alongside real meat. If people stop buying real meat in favour of the synthetic variety, then the meat industry will die out. Same with vice-versa.

If farms lose their purpose, the land should be protected, either turn the livestock paddocks into crop land, or just otherwise keep it green. It's better environmentally, and green looks better than housing blocks.

[Saph]

'lab grown' sounds a bit chemically

[smudgie]

Hmmmm, no more leather handbags, shoes or sofas.
Just no, plus we need cows for milk as well, imagine all those farmers going out of business.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Hmmmm, no more leather handbags, shoes or sofas.
Just no, plus we need cows for milk as well, imagine all those farmers going out of business.

They could have almond farms for milk or something instead I mean i eat meat and all but when you really think about it, it is horrific what we do to them

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I mean i eat milk and all but when you really think about it, it is horrific what we do to them

How'd you manage that?

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I only have two rules when it comes to food tbh, a) it tastes nice and b) it's not dangerous to me, so if lab meat fulfilled these two I'd have no problem

It's why I never really *got* the horse meat scandal a few years back. Like, obviously lying to consumers is completely reprehensible but much of the outrage was about 'ew! I don't want to eat horses!' and I just thought I couldn't care less what it is if it tastes nice. I find the whole monopoly of dignity people put on their home nation's domesticated animals a bit strange really, why is the life of a dog more important than a pig just because it could be a pet?

I'm like you. The only thing I question is the animal husbandry before slaughter and the method of slaughter. Unfortunately, a lot of horses get exported on the hoof to countries who don't have the same slaughtering rules we have.

I was vegetarian for quite a long time and I still have this little voice in my head that says, "meat is murder" but then I smell smokey bacon