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The X Factor 2017 [S14] Series 14 in 2017 of ITV's music reality show, won by Rak-Su. |
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22-10-2017, 11:50 PM | #51 | ||
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It's all about one winner, so whether Favourite A is knocked out by Favourite B in the final 2 or a few weeks beforehand is neither here nor there. And, yes, I see the argument that a final with both of those favourites in it would be better than one of them versus a floater who slipped through in a fairly crappy category, that's where my point about the overall lack of quality control across the whole show crops up. Last edited by Marsh.; 22-10-2017 at 11:50 PM. |
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22-10-2017, 11:50 PM | #52 | |||
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It’s also annoying that they’ll put specific categories together to try and get the acts they want furthest. I’ll put money on the groups & girls being on separate nights |
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22-10-2017, 11:50 PM | #53 | |||
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22-10-2017, 11:53 PM | #54 | |||
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But Little Mix happened. They only happened because of the 10 weeks... nobody saw that happening at the start of the shows. The whole problem with this new format is unfair eliminations with no time for acts to grow. Not about one clear winner, or they may as well just crown the winner on week one going by what you’re saying |
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22-10-2017, 11:55 PM | #55 | ||
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That's the only criticism I agree with, the length. The new format doesn't allow enough time for acts to progress and build up fanbases. The order in which the acts leave the competition, IMO, is the least of its problems. Last edited by Marsh.; 22-10-2017 at 11:55 PM. |
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22-10-2017, 11:57 PM | #56 | |||
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If they do double eliminations week one and then singles on week 2, there will have been 6 eliminations this year while the acts will have only performed twice. Let them all perform 6 times before eliminating them and the order could be completely different.... |
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22-10-2017, 11:59 PM | #57 | ||
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23-10-2017, 12:00 AM | #58 | |||
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If the producers favourites are a group and a girl, they won’t put them on the same night because that’ll mean one has to go. So they’ll put them separate in the hope that an over and boy will go instead
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23-10-2017, 12:02 AM | #59 | ||
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Culling them quickly and regularly is the issue, not the eliminating them category by category. That's exactly how they narrow down the 1000s of applicants down to the live show cast as it is anyway. And if we have a case of a talentless no hoper floating through to the top 5 then they should've thought about that at Bootcamp when putting that floater into their final selections. Nobody at this stage of the competition should be bad. Everybody will like different acts dependent on taste and preference, but they should all be good. |
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23-10-2017, 12:03 AM | #60 | |||
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I hate that there is no sing off, some of my favourite XF moments have been from sing offs
Ruth singing Purple Rain and Knocking on Heavens Door
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23-10-2017, 12:05 AM | #61 | ||
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Why would one HAVE to go? Presumably, the rest of their categories are performing too? And if they would easily survive elimination against the other acts in their category then they're going to fly through the first stages regardless?
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23-10-2017, 12:08 AM | #62 | |||
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It’s like how they gave Honey G the pimp slot on live shows to boost her chances of survival. |
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23-10-2017, 12:10 AM | #63 | ||
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I can see the argument about the order in which acts perform and who sticks out in audiences memory when the vote opens. BUT when it comes to the joke acts, if they're getting voted through week after week it's going to happen regardless of slot. IMO. |
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23-10-2017, 12:12 AM | #64 | |||
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23-10-2017, 12:13 AM | #65 | ||
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The competition will be within their own categories, rather than outside, until the final 4. Would whoever is deemed least popular in each category really change if you swapped out which category they were grouped with? To illustrate, if all the boys are more popular than all the groups so the overall voting is... 1. Boy 1 2. Boy 2 3. Boy 3 4. Boy 4 5. Group 1 6. Group 2 7. Group 3 8. Group 4 Then Boy 4 and Group 4 are both leaving that night. If you then paired those categories with another category where the voting is more mixed so you get results like... 1. Boy 1 2. Girl 1 3. Boy 2 4. Boy 3 5. Girl 2 6. Girl 3 7. Girl 4 8. Boy 4 Then "Boy 4" has a difference of 4 places, BUT he's eliminated anyway because he remains the least popular of his category? Last edited by Marsh.; 23-10-2017 at 12:18 AM. |
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23-10-2017, 12:16 AM | #66 | |||
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23-10-2017, 12:22 AM | #67 | ||
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It's like in Big Brother when a housemate is evicted one week after being majority nominated by the whole house but then, in an unfair and unannounced change of rules, someone is nominated and evicted from just one nomination the following week. That makes a mockery of the viewers and the competition by making it unbalanced. However, the idea of simply culling the categories at an equal rate isn't necessarily a bad one. It's the limited time to get to know them and the inconsistent voting that spoils it. |
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23-10-2017, 12:23 AM | #68 | ||
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But then you could make the argument that even if one act would've survived against another category, the fact they came bottom of the 8 acts that performed that night shows they're far from deserving of remaining really anyway.
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23-10-2017, 12:25 AM | #69 | |||
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23-10-2017, 12:29 AM | #70 | ||
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Definitely. And the kind of inconsistent brainfart that caused me to abandon this show a while ago.
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23-10-2017, 12:32 AM | #71 | |||
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It’s just seriously disappointing that we finally have a good bunch of finalists and our own chosen wildcards...... and they **** all over it
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23-10-2017, 12:34 AM | #72 | ||
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Go back to the Popstars documentary format I say.
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23-10-2017, 07:38 AM | #73 | |||
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23-10-2017, 07:42 AM | #74 | ||
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mess at this format!
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23-10-2017, 10:57 AM | #75 | |||
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