[Nicky91]

i wanted to post more on SD because i wanted to show my serious side as well on here, but now this recent drama has put me off that part of the forum a bit

[LeatherTrumpet]

To be serious here for a moment I can understand why the young members dont like or understand it. I remember hating my dad watching the news when I was small as it was "boring"

I think once you have lived for a while and you have a house maybe some kids and a job "news" becomes more interesting as do politics - its roughly when you realise that people in power are actually total clueless dickeads just like yourself and it all gets a bit worrying

So younger members dont worry about SD as it will become more alluring when you get older.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Tbh.

And let's not pretend getting rid of the debates section will suddenly eradicate all of the sniping that goes on. There's plenty in the chat area too which makes me feel less motivated to post there at times (one big problem on here is people using the chat thread to bitch about a confrontation they just had in another section, or even worse, about something they weren't even involved in).

I don't really use SN&D much and it definitely has its issues but I think it's definitely scapegoated a lot.

I also have an issue with the "use a politics forum" logic. Most forums I've seen have various sections far beyond the main area it was designed around and a section for news and serious discussions seems like a standard one. And if we were to get rid of sections because they're apparently irrelevant to Big Brother, Serious Debates certainly wouldn't be the only one to go.

A SERIOUSLY brilliant PERCEPTIVE post Lostie.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

To be serious here for a moment I can understand why the young members dont like or understand it. I remember hating my dad watching the news when I was small as it was "boring"

I think once you have lived for a while and you have a house maybe some kids and a job "news" becomes more interesting as do politics - its roughly when you realise that people in power are actually total clueless dickeads just like yourself and it all gets a bit worrying

So younger members dont worry about SD as it will become more alluring when you get older.

Perfectly true L.T. - and WELCOME back.

[Eddie.]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Put it in a social group of something, no one joins a low brow reality tv forum for a serious debate .

[T*]

the only problem I have with it is that it pops up in my sidebar even on ignore and the cliqueism which is arguably the worse on here
there is a point about the forum being a reality tv/pop culture forum, it is juxtaposed onto here and it tries to make out it’s all serious but it ends up looking like a house of commons sat in the middle of a pride parade lmao

[caprimint]

Originally Posted by Sullen Girl

i still think it needs to be axed bc i have it on ignore so it’s obviously not needed? if it was that important i would post in there all the time bc i’m the best member on the site

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Sullen Girl

the forum would be a nicer place without ha!

No - just keep out if it isn’t your cup of tea - simples!

[parmnion]

No....plenty room for all.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by T*

the only problem I have with it is that it pops up in my sidebar even on ignore and the cliqueism which is arguably the worse on here
there is a point about the forum being a reality tv/pop culture forum, it is juxtaposed onto here and it tries to make out it’s all serious but it ends up looking like a house of commons sat in the middle of a pride parade lmao

"it tries to make out it’s all serious "


Really, how does that work?

I dont get how you have so much to say about it when you have never made a thread in it or voiced an opinion there? Fear can lead to resentment and the way to conquer that fear is to take part?

[Withano]

Can I just say real quick that this whole ‘well you dont contribute to it, so what would you know’ thing a few of you have going on is bollocks

I barely ever post in the private forum, or the music forum, but I have a good understanding of the types of conversation that go on there, and the type of tone they have.

Not being part of the problem doesnt make you unqualified to discuss it

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Withano

Can I just say real quick that this whole ‘well you dont contribute to it, so what would you know’ thing a few of you have going on is bollocks

I barely ever post in the private forum, or the music forum, but I have a good understanding of the types of conversation that go on there, and the type of tone they have.

Not being part of the problem doesnt make you unqualified to discuss it

that is nonsense as both those forums are self explanatory and have zero to do with the real life topics on SD such as politics, abortion, rape etc

the point stands and unless people participate and make threads i cant see how an opinion, other than one of prejudice, be properly formed

join in and then form a view

otherwise, stay in your lane

[arista]

Originally Posted by Sullen Girl

the forum would be a nicer place without ha!

Scott
you need to Post on that section more.
Even Folks from around the World post on it.

No one has a Fecking GUN to your
head - saying read every thread..........................................



Life In The City

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by arista

Scott
you need to Post on that section more.
Even Folks from around the World post on it.

No one has a Fecking GUN to your
head - saying read every thread..........................................



Life In The City

common sense

[arista]

Originally Posted by T*

the only problem I have with it is that it pops up in my sidebar even on ignore and the cliqueism which is arguably the worse on here
there is a point about the forum being a reality tv/pop culture forum, it is juxtaposed onto here and it tries to make out it’s all serious but it ends up looking like a house of commons sat in the middle of a pride parade lmao

how nice

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

i wanted to post more on SD because i wanted to show my serious side as well on here, but now this recent drama has put me off that part of the forum a bit

But you are Learning
So all is good.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

that is nonsense as both those forums are self explanatory and have zero to do with the real life topics on SD such as politics, abortion, rape etc

the point stands and unless people participate and make threads i cant see how an opinion, other than one of prejudice, be properly formed

join in and then form a view

otherwise, stay in your lane

The thread topic is ‘do you want to see the subforum axed’, you, Kaz, and Livia all decided that when it comes to this topic, only the ones who participate may form an opinion. Bollocks.

I’d argue its the opposite of this if anything, if people are actively avoiding the subforum for any reason, their perspective is just as relevant as yours. If not, more so.

(Obviously its not gonna be axed, its a discussion on a hypothetical, get off your high horse! You dont own imaginary scenarios).

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Withano

Can I just say real quick that this whole ‘well you dont contribute to it, so what would you know’ thing a few of you have going on is bollocks

I barely ever post in the private forum, or the music forum, but I have a good understanding of the types of conversation that go on there, and the type of tone they have.

Not being part of the problem doesnt make you unqualified to discuss it

Have you ever seen a member of SD go in to the chat thread when there is an issue and start posting what they can and can't do in there, the chat threads have been closed many times, I have never made it my business to get involved, and neither has anyone else from SD that doesn't post in their regularly, I have no interest, there seems to be massive interest in getting SD shut down, why is that ?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Withano

The thread topic is ‘do you want to see the subforum axed’, you, Kaz, and Livia all decided that when it comes to this topic, only the ones who participate may form an opinion. Bollocks.

I’d argue its the opposite of this if anything, if people are actively avoiding the subforum for any reason, their perspective is just as relevant as yours. If not, more so.

(Obviously its not gonna be axed, its a discussion on a hypothetical, get off your high horse! You dont own imaginary scenarios).

Seriously though a lot of this I'm afraid to post my opinions in SD as it is too intimidating is utter claptrap! Arista is lovely

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Withano

The thread topic is ‘do you want to see the subforum axed’, you, Kaz, and Livia all decided that when it comes to this topic, only the ones who participate may form an opinion. Bollocks.

I’d argue its the opposite of this if anything, if people are actively avoiding the subforum for any reason, their perspective is just as relevant as yours. If not, more so.

(Obviously its not gonna be axed, its a discussion on a hypothetical, get off your high horse! You dont own imaginary scenarios).

My advice stays, get involved and form an opinion, if not ignore.

I dont play any of the "games" on this site and frankly if they all stopped i could care less, but i know people like them and i know sometimes they cause drama


but I would never slate them or call for them to be axed.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Have you ever seen a member of SD go in to the chat thread when there is an issue and start posting what they can and can't do in there, the chat threads have been closed many times, I have never made it my business to get involved, and neither has anyone else from SD that doesn't post in their regularly, I have no interest, there seems to be massive interest in getting SD shut down, why is that ?

Well.. the only way to find out would be to ask these people, but a few of you lot are letting them know that their opinion seems irrelevant and rudely talking about them when, or if, they join in. So.

I’d imagine its comes across as angry and toxic, and not in line with the majority of the rest of the forum most of the time. But the ones who can help to clarify have probably been made to feel alienated, so probably wont do that.. so.

[Jordan.]

"You don't post in the section you can't comment!!!!"

Because it's not like you "serious debaters" squabbling like kids everyday is having any sort knock on affect on the rest of the forum is it.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Withano

The thread topic is ‘do you want to see the subforum axed’, you, Kaz, and Livia all decided that when it comes to this topic, only the ones who participate may form an opinion. Bollocks.

I’d argue its the opposite of this if anything, if people are actively avoiding the subforum for any reason, their perspective is just as relevant as yours. If not, more so.

(Obviously its not gonna be axed, its a discussion on a hypothetical, get off your high horse! You dont own imaginary scenarios).

Also that is a load of bollox ,NO one said that,I know I said those calling for a cull don't post in it,and some of them don't,NO ONE said only ones who participate can have an opinion,so stop trying to make out we are causing trouble.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Also that is a load of bollox ,NO one said that,I know I said those calling for a cull don't post in it,and some of them don't,NO ONE said only ones who participate can have an opinion,so stop trying to make out we are causing trouble.

Well, what was your point then? Why mention it. Of course nobody who posts in it regularly are gonna want it culled.. so what was the point in even saying the obvious if it wasnt to make a point?

Also

sometimes it's nice to have some adult talk,and threads with long posts and substance

bull**** Kaz! Your intention was clear!

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Sullen Girl

i still think it needs to be axed bc i have it on ignore so it’s obviously not needed? if it was that important i would post in there all the time bc i’m the best member on the site

So if you have it on ignore why does it matter if it stays or goes?