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12-04-2018, 09:44 AM | #226 | |||
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They can dislike whoever they like, alot of people dislike alot of people, if the crime was committed by any other group we wouldn't be dragging everyone associated with that group through the mud that is the point I am making, it wouldn't be tolerated on the forum.
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12-04-2018, 09:45 AM | #227 | |||
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12-04-2018, 09:48 AM | #228 | |||
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Slightly off topic but still on topic Dr Pam Spur was the Psychologist on the 5 Live phone in about this topice this morning Thought you would like to know that LT
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12-04-2018, 09:52 AM | #229 | |||
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12-04-2018, 09:56 AM | #230 | ||
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I think (I'm not sure, though) that that would be some sort of civil issue rather than a criminal one, so the owner of the property would probably have to get some sort of cease & desist type thing before the police could act? I'm sure there are weird laws about gardens, like it's not trespassing for someone to walk through your garden to knock your door, but would be if they entered your home... But you still can tell people to leave your garden because it's not a public space, either. .
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12-04-2018, 10:21 AM | #231 | |||
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12-04-2018, 10:23 AM | #232 | |||
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12-04-2018, 10:28 AM | #233 | |||
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If the police shot an ISIS terrorist and then the terrorist family came and lay flowers at the scene, there would be outrage and there would be lynching if it was repeated.
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12-04-2018, 10:41 AM | #234 | |||
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12-04-2018, 11:05 AM | #235 | ||
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I sort of think that's over the top though. I mean what this guy was doing was immoral and awful, but he was a petty thief / fraudster... Not a mass murderer or terrorist.
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12-04-2018, 11:08 AM | #236 | |||
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12-04-2018, 11:10 AM | #237 | |||
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It was also widely reported that this man and other member of the family are a gang that prey on the elderly and disabled and have previously been convicted of doing so and served prison time.
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12-04-2018, 11:13 AM | #238 | |||
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He was a person with a long string of convictions for preying on vulnerable people. Let's not paint him pink. You've got to be pretty hard faced to cheat and rob the vulnerable. And let's not forget he went into that home with a weapon.
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12-04-2018, 11:19 AM | #239 | ||
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I'm not "painting him pink", I said he was doing things that were immoral and awful, but they're still not on par with mass murder or terrorism. In my opinion obviously. I guess some people might think they are .
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12-04-2018, 11:26 AM | #240 | |||
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I am bemused why some people feel a need to try to excuse someone who went into someone elses house with a weapon. Weapon = intent. Let's not kid ourselves. That struggle in that kitchen was a struggle for survival.
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12-04-2018, 11:27 AM | #241 | ||
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12-04-2018, 11:28 AM | #242 | |||
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Is an elderly person's life at home worth less somehow?
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12-04-2018, 11:39 AM | #243 | ||
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... But I find the assertion that a burglary with a screwdriver (which shows willingness to cause physical harm, not intent) is as bad as mass murder or terrorism to be pretty out there. But it's your opinion and I'm not trying to force you to change it? My opinion is that, as bad as it is, it's not on that same level. We can surely agree to disagree here. |
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12-04-2018, 11:51 AM | #244 | |||
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I don't think there are degrees of bad when it comes to the word murder personally, someone or someone's are dead it's pretty bad all round. In this case I feel pretty sorry for the person who has been forced to kill someone in self defence. Now there is no intent, just horrible circumstance. We can agree to disagree, but you ruined the sentiment and the point and weight of your post with the highlighted jibe.
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12-04-2018, 12:14 PM | #245 | ||
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It's not a jibe, it's a fact that people are constantly talking about "making excuses" when no excuses are being made. No one is trying to excuse anyone of anything.
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12-04-2018, 01:19 PM | #246 | |||
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12-04-2018, 01:40 PM | #247 | |||
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12-04-2018, 01:52 PM | #248 | |||
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I don't know why we are even arguing about this,it is intimidating to the people who have had to flee their home because of threats and flowers laid outside their home,the person to blame is dead by his own deeds really,so if his family want to lay flowers etc, fine just not where he scared and attacked two old age pensioners ,so much so one killed him,he lived by the sword,he died by the sword,take the flowers and lay them where he lived,no one then will bother removing them,
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12-04-2018, 01:52 PM | #249 | ||
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12-04-2018, 01:57 PM | #250 | |||
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We like him to do that though
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