[arista]

[Footage shows the white Police officer slamming Anthony Wall, 22,
against a window, then turning him around and gripping him by the neck.]

video on this link
https://news.sky.com/story/us-police...house-11367071
Video 26 seconds only



[Mr Wall, who posted footage of the incident on Facebook on Tuesday,
was charged with resisting arrest and disorderly conduct for the argument inside the Waffle House,
ABC 11 reported.]

[Cherie]

Looks overly aggressive

[LeatherTrumpet]

you cant comment without the full details, a snippet of video only leads to hysteria

(cue hysteria)

[bitontheslide]

he was checking his neck size for a new shirt

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by arista

[Footage shows the white Police officer slamming Anthony Wall, 22,
against a window, then turning him around and gripping him by the neck.]

video on this link
https://news.sky.com/story/us-police...house-11367071
Video 26 seconds only



[Mr Wall, who posted footage of the incident on Facebook on Tuesday,
was charged with resisting arrest and disorderly conduct for the argument inside the Waffle House,
ABC 11 reported.]

It’s impossible to make an informed comment without knowing exactly what happened. We don’t know exactly what occurred or whether the man had acted in a threatening way which led to the possibly heavy-handed response. Without more details any response is guesswork!

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

you cant comment without the full details, a snippet of video only leads to hysteria

(cue hysteria)

Yes True its only 26 seconds
what went down before?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

It’s impossible to make an informed comment without knowing exactly what happened. We don’t know exactly what occurred or whether the man had acted in a threatening way which led to the possibly heavy-handed response. Without more details any response is guesswork!

Yes it appears due to
that Edit Mobile Phone clip
its become bigger news.

[Ashley.]

"Your hands should have never been around my neck like that if my hands were in the air," Mr Wall added.

That's correct. The man was defenseless and therefore the attack was unjustified.

Of course, this is just one man's word against another... But right now it's not looking good.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

That's correct. The man was defenseless and therefore the attack was unjustified.

What did Mr.Wall do before that 26mins video.


This is why Police need more BodyCams

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by arista

What did Mr.Wall do before that 26mins video.


This is why Police need more BodyCams

Whatever it was, I can't imagine it warranted an attack as vicious as that. The man had absolutely no control going by the video and he looked genuinely terrified. He should've been handcuffed and sent away there and then, not strangled and pushed to the floor.

[Twosugars]

guess joining police is next best thing since kkk has lost support

why so many policemen there are fat? don't they have a fitness test? or is it that they don't need to give a chase coz they just shoot?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

Whatever it was, I can't imagine it warranted an attack as vicious as that. The man had absolutely no control going by the video and he looked genuinely terrified. He should've been handcuffed and sent away there and then, not strangled and pushed to the floor.

You are not a policeman not have you any idea what it like to try and restrain a perp who will not do as they are told

you need to get them on the floor fast and on their front, you dont know what they have on them, knives, needles guns

this isnt The Bill, its life or death

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

guess joining police is next best thing since kkk has lost support

why so many policemen there are fat? don't they have a fitness test? or is it that they don't need to give a chase coz they just shoot?

silly comment

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

That's correct. The man was defenseless and therefore the attack was unjustified.

Of course, this is just one man's word against another... But right now it's not looking good.

I agree, Ash. Under Self-Defence Law no matter what the guy did PRIOR to the clip - that ACTION had PASSED, so any violent act by the cop AFTER that is NOT self-Defence but RETALIATION and ASSAULT.

If the guy has his hands in the air offering NO resistance then the cop's action is ASSAULT because only REASONABLE force necessary for restraint or arrest is lawful.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

You are not a policeman not have you any idea what it like to try and restrain a perp who will not do as they are told

you need to get them on the floor fast and on their front, you dont know what they have on them, knives, needles guns

this isnt The Bill, its life or death

You've just said that there's not enough evidence to comment:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

you cant comment without the full details, a snippet of video only leads to hysteria

But you've just commented that the man wasn't doing as he was told. Where is the evidence of that, then?

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

silly comment

not necessarily
imagine a white supremacist who can't join kkk for whatever reason, e.g. no local branch, and you still want to put blacks in their place
why not join the police?
don't think it's too much of a stretch to imagine it happens

[AnnieK]

When I worked in America, I lived in South Carolina and spent a lot if time in NC. There was then still a very apparent black / white divide and therefore it is not a massive stretch to believe there is some unpleasant racial undertones that exist. The cop does appear to be very heavy handed but as we don't know the full details cannot comment further.

[Cherie]

I don’t think policemen anywhere are allowed to choke suspects n9 matter what went on previously

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

not necessarily
imagine a white supremacist who can't join kkk for whatever reason, e.g. no local branch, and you still want to put blacks in their place
why not join the police?
don't think it's too much of a stretch to imagine it happens

These cop brutality/shooting videos may give the impression that the USA is riddled with Racist or Fascists or Power-Hungry pervs who need to 'grind Their Own Axes' but these incidents are still rare in a such a vast country and although one incident is too many, it is best to keep a sense of proportion.

I personally believe that SOME racists DO gravitate to jobs such as the Police or Prison Officers - both in the USA and here, but they ARE in a tiny minority and MOST cops are decent people doing a thankless job under extremely dangerous conditions.

In my opinion anyway.

[Twosugars]

Totally, Kirk. It wasn't my intention to blame all police. Don't know America, but what we see is disturbing and there must be some reason on BOTH sides.
In the UK, overall, I have utmost respect for the police force. The fact that I worked for them freelance for a while has done nothing but strenghten this respect.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Totally, Kirk. It wasn't my intention to blame all police. Don't know America, but what we see is disturbing and there must be some reason on BOTH sides.
In the UK, overall, I have utmost respect for the police force. The fact that I worked for them freelance for a while has done nothing but strenghten this respect.

Oh, I didn't mean you specifically Twosugars. I meant all of us in general. We get that swamped with these vids that we do sometimes forget that - like Muslim extremist terrorism - it SPECIFICALLY because it's 'bad' news that we are swamped with them, and that CAN lead some to think that ALL cops in the USA are brutal or racist (and ALL Muslims are terrorists etc).

I would not have a cop's job given in this ever increasingly insane and violent world.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Oh, I didn't mean you specifically Twosugars. I meant all of us in general. We get that swamped with these vids that we do sometimes forget that - like Muslim extremist terrorism - it SPECIFICALLY because it's 'bad' news that we are swamped with them, and that CAN lead some to think that ALL cops in the USA are brutal or racist (and ALL Muslims are terrorists etc).

I would not have a cop's job given in this ever increasingly insane and violent world.

I agree with you Kirk. Clearly that particular officer was using more force than he should have been but generally I think it must be a very hard job in the US because everyone is a potential gunman. It must be a very hard and stressful job.

[Maru]

I'll have to ask my husband when he gets home to be ask about the specific method, but I don't think he was intending to choke him... looks like he was trying to restrain him via his shoulders to get him down to the ground. It's a maneuver iirc.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I agree, Ash. Under Self-Defence Law no matter what the guy did PRIOR to the clip - that ACTION had PASSED, so any violent act by the cop AFTER that is NOT self-Defence but RETALIATION and ASSAULT.

If the guy has his hands in the air offering NO resistance then the cop's action is ASSAULT because only REASONABLE force necessary for restraint or arrest is lawful.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

But you've just commented that the man wasn't doing as he was told. Where is the evidence of that, then?

I think he missed the end of the sentence "You can't comment, unless you agree with me".