[arista]

[The two-year-old labradors will be put
down by the end of the month so
scientists can see what effect this has
on their tissue and blood.
More than 84,000 people,
including British comedian Ricky Gervais
and Downton Abbey actor Peter Egan,
have backed a petition calling
for the dogs to be allowed to live.]


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8782646.html

Now its gone Worldwide Public
will they cancel the killings?


Reported on GMBHD itv today.

[Oliver_W]

This sort of thing probably happens all the time in research facilities tbh

[arista]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

This sort of thing probably happens all the time in research facilities tbh

Yes but these Dogs
have got Stars and
Public backing them
due to the publicity
it would be wise to cancel the medical test

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

This sort of thing probably happens all the time in research facilities tbh

Which justifies it how, exactly?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

Which justifies it how, exactly?

It doesn't justify it of course, but not many people who have an issue with this will have no problem with tests on lab rats for instance?

Stop animal testing altogether and pay humans to do it

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

It doesn't justify it of course, but not many people who have an issue with this will have no problem with tests on lab rats for instance?

Stop animal testing altogether and pay humans to do it

Yeah agree with this. I think this particular case probably bothers people more because they're cute labs

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Cherie

It doesn't justify it of course, but not many people who have an issue with this will have no problem with tests on lab rats for instance?

Stop animal testing altogether and pay humans to do it

Couldn't agree more.

It would be more interesting to me to kill a couple of their scientists and find out how they decompose.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

It doesn't justify it of course, but not many people who have an issue with this will have no problem with tests on lab rats for instance?

Stop animal testing altogether and pay humans to do it

I'm not for animal testing in any way, but I also think there are huge issues with paid human testing. For things that are "almost ready for use" and are therefore extremely low risk it's less of an issue, but when it's early testing and high risk, paid testing becomes a real issue because only people who are desperate for money are likely to do it. And it's likely to be in countries where people who are desperate for money are REALLY desperate and saying "no" becomes a less valid choice... and I have some serious concerns about what that ends up looking like.

Basically, it has high potential to transition from "testing on animals" to "testing on poor people" who have used it as a last resort and that doesn't sit very well either.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I'm not for animal testing in any way, but I also think there are huge issues with paid human testing. For things that are "almost ready for use" and are therefore extremely low risk it's less of an issue, but when it's early testing and high risk, paid testing becomes a real issue because only people who are desperate for money are likely to do it. And it's likely to be in countries where people who are desperate for money are REALLY desperate and saying "no" becomes a less valid choice... and I have some serious concerns about what that ends up looking like.

Basically, it has high potential to transition from "testing on animals" to "testing on poor people" who have used it as a last resort and that doesn't sit very well either.

Yup thats exactly what would happen. I mean, theres this thing called flu camp where they are testing flu vaccines, and from memory, it was being paid something like 3.5k for 7 days. Being injected with the flu and then the vaccines tested on you. I almost did it a few years back, but it turned out I was pregnant again so I pulled out but I am fairly sure they would not have tested on me while pregnant anyway. That kind of money for a few days of being ill just sounded amazing, I didn't really think of the risks at all as I figured..well flu is awful but...you won't die or anything. But...it depends what they were injecting me with really..I could have a bad reaction and die.

And even that, would be stuff thats already been tested and is in theory 'safe' for humans. I don't know the answer, but I do know that making it so we had to test on people would just prey on those who are struggling for money. Of course there is the knee jerk reaction of 'we can test them on prisoners who have murdered' or whatever, but there are a fair few issues with that too...we cannot sentence someone to life in prison, but tag onto that sentence that they must be available to have random drugs tested on them...its basically a version of the death penalty back!

[reece(:]

This hurts... my dog is a black lab to think she could be suffering at the hands of these trials

[Oliver_W]

Fun fact - it's why labradors were originally bred.

"Rador" is an old language for "dog", they were specifically bred in labs to be experimented on.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Fun fact - it's why labradors were originally bred.

"Rador" is an old language for "dog", they were specifically bred in labs to be experimented on.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Fun fact - it's why labradors were originally bred.

"Rador" is an old language for "dog", they were specifically bred in labs to be experimented on.

[bots]

there are many tests they can do these days without resorting to animal testing. I think the onus should be on the testers that the test is worthwhile and that it cant be achieved by any other means.

[Kazanne]

Animals should not be tested on at all,what gives us the right to kill and maim them? there are plenty of vile humans that could be used , it has been said the experiments mostly do not work anyway animals in general have a different structure than us.

[thesheriff443]

It’s sad that a case like this makes the head lines but what about the dogs and cats skinned alive for fur or the dirty bastards that are eating dogs.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

It’s sad that a case like this makes the head lines but what about the dogs and cats skinned alive for fur or the dirty bastards that are eating dogs.

In an ideal world it would all be stopped and not just on dogs,people who are cruel to animals are very dodgy people and I would always give them a wide berth.

[Jessica.]

It's very sad to hear but what about all of the other animals that are tested on and killed, or killed for you to eat? That's a very small amount of dogs compared to the scale of all of the other animals who are worth as much as dogs are.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

It's very sad to hear but what about all of the other animals that are tested on and killed, or killed for you to eat? That's a very small amount of dogs compared to the scale of all of the other animals who are worth as much as dogs are.

Chicken , for Example ,is KFC
or free range
In our nation we do not eat dogs

Dogs mean more to us in the UK

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by arista

Chicken , for Example ,is KFC

or free range

In our nation we do not eat dogs



Dogs mean more to us in the UK

They might mean more to you, but it doesn't mean they're lives are worth more than any other animals.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

They might mean more to you, but it doesn't mean they're lives are worth more than any other animals.

Everyone eats KFC

This is not about other animals
its trying to save 6 Happy dogs

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

They might mean more to you, but it doesn't mean they're lives are worth more than any other animals.

I mean a chicken's life is apparently worth about £4. Which is pretty horrible, if you think about it.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I mean a chicken's life is apparently worth about £4. Which is pretty horrible, if you think about it.

Chickens are bred for food. Black Labradors are family bets. Surely you're not saying that a chicken and a Labrador is the same?

[Tom4784]

Animal testing is sadly a necessity in medical research, it's unpleasant and often repugnant but the discoveries can save lives. As TS said, if we kept testing strictly to humans then the poor, the homeless and the vulnerable would become disposable test subjects instead.

It's a bitter pill but one we must accept and swallow.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Animal testing is sadly a necessity in medical research, it's unpleasant and often repugnant but the discoveries can save lives. As TS said, if we kept testing strictly to humans then the poor, the homeless and the vulnerable would become disposable test subjects instead.

It's a bitter pill but one we must accept and swallow.

Yes Dezzy
but now its been "leaked"
and the Dogs photo was on TV news
surely they can save these dogs