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Old 29-03-2019, 01:13 PM #1
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THIS is the shocking moment a schoolboy appears to be mugged for his coat as McDonald's staff and customers look on and do nothing.
The menacing figures appear to demand the 15-year-old boy's jacket - who shrugs it off and hands it over.

The hooded men were caught on CCTV, with one wearing a camouflage jacket and the other a black hoodie.
During the apparent confrontation, one of the men can be seen appearing to hold out his hand to the young boy.

Bewildered staff can be seen walking around the stand off as it unfolds.
At one point, one worker does appear to try to intervene - walking between the group and trying to speak to one of the hooded men.
The two men then run off, leaving the young boy alone.
The confrontation, believed to have taken place at the fast food chain in Enfield, North London, was filmed about 8.30am on March 22.

Footage of the incident has since been shared online, with many left shocked at the blatant apparent mugging.
One person wrote: "This is so shocking. I really feel for the young boy. No one should ever have to experience this. Does anyone know who he is? I want to buy him a new coat. I have made enquiries of my own only to be told that the matter is under investigation.
"Meanwhile the boy here continues to suffer the consequences of what he has had to endure.
"Whatever way you look at it, this should never be allowed to happen particularly in public, in an establishment like Mc D's and in broad day light. Absolutely disgusting."
Another added: "Look how distressed the poor young boy is."
A third wrote: "Worse off is that the staff do nothing."
Met Police confirmed they were investigating the Church Street incident.
A spokesperson said: "Police in Enfield are investigating after a 15-year-old boy was robbed of his jacket in a fast-food restaurant.
"No weapon was involved and the victim was not harmed.
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It's appalling that nobody helped him. I know for sure I would've had I been there
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As someone who use to work in McDonalds they always say stay out of danger especially if you believe a weapon could be involved but they have panic button that contact the police straight away so that bit confuses me
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It's appalling that nobody helped him. I know for sure I would've had I been there
Easy to say when you're not in that situation tbh.

When you work in retail, you're told not to intervene in dangerous situations. You have to alert authorities while not engaging the dangerous individual. If someone does so and they get hurt, they won't be insured for it and you can bet they'll face disciplinary action for going against procedure.
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Easy to say when you're not in that situation tbh.

When you work in retail, you're told not to intervene in dangerous situations. You have to alert authorities while not engaging the dangerous individual. If someone does so and they get hurt, they won't be insured for it and you can bet they'll face disciplinary action for going against procedure.
I work in retail myself so I'm aware of the rules regarding about not intervening in dangerous situations. Like you say, we're supposed to alert if any danger occurs, yet it didn't look like any of them had alerted anyone. One of the staff members is seen just walking around the incident without alerting her fellow colleagues. Why didn't she inform them of what was occurring and then call the security guard?

If I was a customer and I witnessed that incident, I would immediately inform the the staff or the security guard. I won't just sit there and do nothing.

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As someone who use to work in McDonalds they always say stay out of danger especially if you believe a weapon could be involved but they have panic button that contact the police straight away so that bit confuses me
Exactly! They didn't even look like they gave a monkey's about what was occurring.
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its not up to the workers to sort of vile feral parentless oiks in overcrowded drug ridden English cities
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its not up to the workers to sort of vile feral parentless oiks in overcrowded drug ridden English cities
just English? not British?
a bit xenophobic...
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just English? not British?
a bit xenophobic...
yes English

Manchester, London, Birmingham, Luton if i was to name some
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I went into a mcdonalds in Camden last year and i was horrified, and ive been in many, even peckham and place like that.

The camden one was an absolute mess, people begging in the shop. coming up to you on the self service machines asking you to buy them things. gross. totally put me off my food.

I shall avoid north london mcdonalds.
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I went into a mcdonalds in Camden last year and i was horrified, and ive been in many, even peckham and place like that.

The camden one was an absolute mess, people begging in the shop. coming up to you on the self service machines asking you to buy them things. gross. totally put me off my food.

I shall avoid north london mcdonalds.
Camden is a total sh1thole of epic proportion and i should know i worked there long enough, people injecting, glue sniffing in the street, litter, tramps, hooded gangs of horrible "youths"

its a dive

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Scotland is the drug deaths capital of Europe.
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In an ideal world someone would have helped but it's really not worth potentially putting your life in danger for the sake of a coat. Let the police sort it now.
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Scotland is the drug deaths capital of Europe.
3 times more in England

but junkies dying of heroin overdoses is not what I am talking about
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but junkies dying of heroin overdoses is not what I am talking about
Scottish ministers have been urged to heavily increase funding for drugs addicts after Scotland recorded the highest level of drugs deaths in Europe last year.

The latest figures showed a record number of 934 people died in Scotland as a direct result of drug overdoses, more than double the number a decade ago and two and a half times the rate UK-wide.


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As for the lad in McDonalds... do people help anymore? I thought people just got their phone out and filmed whatever's going on.
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In a similar situation (kid was being violently bullied in a Mcdons, but not robbed as far as we knew), my mum once pretended she knew him, she said "John, THERE you are," and steered him away from them.
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In a similar situation (kid was being violently bullied in a Mcdons, but not robbed as far as we knew), my mum once pretended she knew him, she said "John, THERE you are," and steered him away from them.
Great quick thinking from your mum
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people will help if they don't think there is a risk of getting themselves knifed, or locked up by the police for using excessive force. Take your pick
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There is something about this that is not right anyway....robbed him of his coat? what was it a mink?
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There is something about this that is not right anyway....robbed him of his coat? what was it a mink?
Cherie wants that coat at a very reasonable price?
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Cherie wants that coat at a very reasonable price?

I mean I know I shouldn't and its animal and all but since its dead already maybe just this once ..
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Its awful no-one stepped up to see what was going on, I think I would have.

I was in Piccadilly Gardens in Manchester recently and two teenagers (around 16) were being seriously manhandled by two older guys probs mid 20s, the kids kept shouting for help and it looked terrifying, at one point one was.on the floor and then dragged back up. Everyone was watching and muttering but doing nothing. Fuelled by a few 2 4 1 cocktails, I decided to step in and went over to calm the situation....and nearly got arrested for obstructing the police. The two young lads were pickpockets and the thugs were undercover police who didnt take too kindly to me steaming in with my best Manc "what the ****s going on here you big bullys" tirade. But at least I tried to do the right thing
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Its awful no-one stepped up to see what was going on, I think I would have.

I was in Piccadilly Gardens in Manchester recently and two teenagers (around 16) were being seriously manhandled by two older guys probs mid 20s, the kids kept shouting for help and it looked terrifying, at one point one was.on the floor and then dragged back up. Everyone was watching and muttering but doing nothing. Fuelled by a few 2 4 1 cocktails, I decided to step in and went over to calm the situation....and nearly got arrested for obstructing the police. The two young lads were pickpockets and the thugs were undercover police who didnt take too kindly to me steaming in with my best Manc "what the ****s going on here you big bullys" tirade. But at least I tried to do the right thing
Aww Annie, that's very unfortunate/funny. At least you did the decent thing and attempted to help, rather than do nothing.
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