[Beso]

Programme on about it at half ten bbc 1 tonight...


Ban it I say..

[Kizzy]

Circumcision? Urg horrible!

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Circumcision? Urg horrible!

Poor kids, don't even have a choice.

[Beso]

Interesting.

It's in the original scriptures of the jewish religion that a child should be circumcised 8 days after birth..so I can see why that would be followed for generations to come.


But I didn't know it was practiced in other religions and is never mentioned in thier scriptures.

[Livia]

Everyone thinks of Jews when circumcision is mentioned but the majority of males in the USA are circumcised not for religious reasons. Also, Islam is the biggest enforcer of religious male circumcision even though it's not even mentioned in the Quran. Neither is female genital mutilation, and frankly I am far more concerned about the 200 million women in the world who, when they were little girls, have been held down, had their clitoris sliced off by someone who isn't a medical professional, it's usually a relative, using an unsterilized blade, sometimes a sharpened tin lid, then sewn up so they can only piss and bleed.

[Vicky.]

I disagree with this in all situations except for for medical reasons. Cutting pieces off babies because you think your God wants you too or whatever is just gross IMO.

[Livia]

I think having babies' ears pieced is grotesque.... people still do it.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I disagree with this in all situations except for for medical reasons. Cutting pieces off babies because you think your God wants you too or whatever is just gross IMO.

Agree although tbf Livia is right in that in the USA pretty much all baby boys have it done for "hygiene" reasons and aesthetics rather than religion. I've heard Americans say that being uncut is gross and dirty................no comprehending the concept of men just...........washing themselves though

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Agree although tbf Livia is right in that in the USA pretty much all baby boys have it done for "hygiene" reasons and aesthetics rather than religion. I've heard Americans say that being uncut is gross and dirty................no comprehending the concept of men just...........washing themselves though

Niamh! Lovely to see you back, hope you had the best time x

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Livia

I think having babies' ears pieced is grotesque.... people still do it.

I don't agree with that either. Why put holes in their ears?! I mean, if they ask for it later in life fine..but just doing it..nah.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Agree although tbf Livia is right in that in the USA pretty much all baby boys have it done for "hygiene" reasons and aesthetics rather than religion. I've heard Americans say that being uncut is gross and dirty................no comprehending the concept of men just...........washing themselves though

God forbid even a tiny bit of effort is put into anything, just cut bits off their dick instead!

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

God forbid even a tiny bit of effort is put into anything, just cut bits off their dick instead!

LOL....

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

I think having babies' ears pieced is grotesque.... people still do it.

Yeah, that should be banned, horrible

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Niamh! Lovely to see you back, hope you had the best time x

Twas very good thank you How are you?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Twas very good thank you How are you?

Disgustingly healthy thank you! Glad you had a good time, good to have you back x

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Disgustingly healthy thank you! Glad you had a good time, good to have you back x

I have so much work to catch up on though, I shouldn't really be on here

[Twosugars]

Why dont cut off their ears while they're at it? They get dirty too

Ridiculous superstition, should be banned

[Beso]

One jewish mother refused to have her son snipped at 8 days...he is now grown up...but could he sue his mum for depriving him of being pure jewish (not sure what term to use)

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

One jewish mother refused to have her son snipped at 8 days...he is now grown up...but could he sue his mum for depriving him of being pure jewish (not sure what term to use)

I wouldn't think you could sue your parents for refusing to cut off pieces of your body. I would hope not anyway, mind some of the things that end up in court these days..you never know

He could always chose to get it done as an adult. That seems to be rare for some reason..hmm

[Tom4784]

I always found the idea of comparing circumcision to FGM to be grotesque. FGM can cause a woman problems for the rest of her life but circumcision does not, hell, circumcision makes things easier in terms of cleanliness and such. There's no real long term downsides to circumcision.

While the philosophical question is valid, I dislike calling it 'Male Genital mutilation' since it promotes false equivalency to FGM. Circumcision can not ruin a man's life like FGM can for a woman.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Why dont cut off their ears while they're at it? They get dirty too

Ridiculous superstition, should be banned

Shouldn’t be banned tbf. I know of 2 people who had theirs cut off cos it was “too tight when they were younger” (I didn’t ask follow-up questions lol)

[Marsh.]

Why take the wrapping paper off the gift before it's been given to the receiver to open?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Withano

Shouldn’t be banned tbf. I know of 2 people who had theirs cut off cos it was “too tight when they were younger” (I didn’t ask follow-up questions lol)

Yeah, for actual reasons fair enough, just for the sake of it and it should be banned.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I always found the idea of comparing circumcision to FGM to be grotesque. FGM can cause a woman problems for the rest of her life but circumcision does not, hell, circumcision makes things easier in terms of cleanliness and such. There's no real long term downsides to circumcision.

While the philosophical question is valid, I dislike calling it 'Male Genital mutilation' since it promotes false equivalency to FGM. Circumcision can not ruin a man's life like FGM can for a woman.

I agree with this, and livias post upthread too. But did not want to 'what about' in a thread about male circumscision, given I complain about whatabouts everywhere else

Yeah, 'MGM' is nothing like FGM. FGM is utterly utterly barbaric and cannot really be compared to circumscision. Mind, I do not think that parm was doing that. But I guess even terming it MGM is..comparing it in a way. As you said.

I do disagree to no downsides of circumscision though tbh. There might not be physical downsides, but I have read hundreds of accounts of blokes really pissed off and upset about their parents removing part of them without consent. So there are mental downsides it seems.

[Crimson Dynamo]

No need to do it

Don't do it