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Old 07-02-2020, 11:30 AM #101
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but surely there should be equal empathy for both, it's not a competition? that said he is the one who has changed the status of their relationship so why shouldn't people feel empathy for her?
Aye, empathy is all well and good, but people saying she’s a victim, or she’s been manipulated and she’s the only one that deserves any form of sympathy, all of which I’ve seen in the past hour or so, not just on here, to me, just screams ‘straight rights!!’
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This is how I feel too, nobody wants to feel your marriage has been a sham... if you love someone how could you do that to them?
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Phil and his wife should stick together, if not for themselves, but for the children

like i mentioned about that Martien Meiland in earlier post, he and his wife also live together for the children, they just sleep separately
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It kinda makes a mockery out of Good Morning where they give out all this santimonous advice it would be like Jeremy Kyle turning out to be a wife beater, or regularly robbing his granny
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An ignorant comment like this can be extremely damaging, Arista. Well done.



Everyone is different, and feel comfortable to 'come out' at different points in their life. There is no time limit.

I think we should be commending his brave decision and not spinning a negative on it by criticising his timing.
maybe the brave thing would have been to not get married and live a fantasy life at the expense of others?

and on TV
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Phil and his wife should stick together, if not for themselves, but for the children

like i mentioned about that Martien Meiland in earlier post, he and his wife also live together for the children, they just sleep separately
Does his wife not deserve to have a partner who fancies her and wants to have sex with her?
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All things considered though, he’s still a dick, but now that explains why he loves himself so much
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From his statement

The presenter also praises his "incredible" wife, adding: "I love her so very much. She is the kindest soul I've ever met.

This is the last thing anyone woman would want to hear after her partner of 27 years has announced he fancies men, poor Steph
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It kinda makes a mockery out of Good Morning where they give out all this santimonous advice it would be like Jeremy Kyle turning out to be a wife beater, or regularly robbing his granny
I'm glad Kyle was taken off air , he was a smug arrogant idiot. His show became even more of a freak show just laughing at people .
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I'm glad Kyle was taken off air , he was a smug arrogant idiot. His show became even more of a freak show just laughing at people .
Good Morning should follow it
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maybe the brave thing would have been to not get married and live a fantasy life at the expense of others?

and on TV

I couldn't agree more.
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Good Morning should follow it
Wouldn't bother me lol , haven't watched it for a while . Saw the odd clip but that's it .
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maybe the brave thing would have been to not get married and live a fantasy life at the expense of others?

and on TV
it's really not as black & white as that, LT.


Yes, it is a terrible shame for his wife to have to come to terms with it. But, it's also a terrible shame for him that he had to wait so long before he was comfortable enough to live openly with his sexuality.

None of us really have the right to disect his 'coming out' as we are not him. But we should at least respect it.
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His story has dominated news now
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Aye, empathy is all well and good, but people saying she’s a victim, or she’s been manipulated and she’s the only one that deserves any form of sympathy, all of which I’ve seen in the past hour or so, not just on here, to me, just screams ‘straight rights!!’
But it isn't about "straight rights " it's about the right to an honest relationship. It's nothing to do with her sexual preference.
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Wouldn't bother me lol , haven't watched it for a while . Saw the odd clip but that's it .
Neither do I, but I think its time it trundled off into the sunset
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Sexuality is complicated, I was once attracted to women, I imagine the majority of gay people were at one time, attracted to the opposite sex, sexuality develops, yes, some people get into straight relationships out of shame to hide their secret, but a lot of people take time to realise who they are, it doesn’t mean he’s done it to purposely mislead her, it’s not black and white with these situations, yes she might have had a shock when she was told, but on the other hand she could have always suspected and was happy to live with it, they clearly had a sexual relationship.

I always find it gross when there’s a story about a gay person, most of the time it always end up coming back around to ‘aww, but what about straight people?’




I find this gross... There are 2 people in that relationship, nobody has said they don't feel for Phil!

It has nothing to do with sexualities at all, are we not supposed to take anyone else's feelings into consideration?

Suddenly they are not a unit they're lumped into the gay or straight camps?
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It kinda makes a mockery out of Good Morning where they give out all this santimonous advice it would be like Jeremy Kyle turning out to be a wife beater, or regularly robbing his granny
Yep remember when fern lost her weight and it turned out she'd had a gastric band?...
She was out on her ear after that.
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Just heard about this. Feel really sorry for his wife and children. Imagine being married for 27 years and your partner decides to come out as gay, I’d be a bit devastated (not that I have an issue with people coming out as gay but I just think in this situation it could’ve been done sooner and been a lot more honest in the relationship).
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But it isn't about "straight rights " it's about the right to an honest relationship. It's nothing to do with her sexual preference.
It's all very strange , I wonder what's going through their heads.

Imagine your marriage feeling like a lie after all these years .
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I don't know if I'm included in that comment but I'm simply looking at it from the wife's perspective Or are straight people not supposed to have feelings?

*If she did know about it then that's a different story obviously
She did, according to his interview.
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