[Zizu]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Boris said the track and trace will be up and running by the 1st..same day all the wee kiddies go back to school....I bet they swab each kid and use that as the track and tracing mechanism.

This track and trace seems all very rushed and looks to have leapfrogged the app in importance .. the thing is is some complete stranger rings you up tomorrow and tells you you’ve been in close contact with a confirmed case are you gonna believe them ... then is everyone who gets the call going to self isolate with their whole family ??


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[Zizu]

There was a woman interviewed on BBCNews today who was completely underwhelmed by the ‘app’ .

She got a text saying she had been in close vicinity of a positive case and then a link to follow ... the link took her to this


https://www.gov.uk/coronavirus


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[Zizu]

At our local primary none of the staff have allowed their children to go to school, even though they have places as key workers. They aren't going to learn anything, it's just a baby sitting service, and it puts everyone at risk.

Our neighbour had to have a blood test today and the nurse at the surgery said she thinks it is madness sending children back so soon and that people who she knows on the frontline are currently preparing for a second wave. She is a parent who is having to juggle her shifts as she won’t send her children into school, despite being a key worker. It worries me when someone ‘in the know’ professionally is still so cautious.


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[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Zizu

At our local primary none of the staff have allowed their children to go to school, even though they have places as key workers. They aren't going to learn anything, it's just a baby sitting service, and it puts everyone at risk.

Our neighbour had to have a blood test today and the nurse at the surgery said she thinks it is madness sending children back so soon and that people who she knows on the frontline are currently preparing for a second wave. She is a parent who is having to juggle her shifts as she won’t send her children into school, despite being a key worker. It worries me when someone ‘in the know’ professionally is still so cautious.


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That's not really true now is it, as homework is being set online to those that are at home? so we have to assume keyworkers children are getting the same work?

You work in a school what is happening in yours?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Zizu

This track and trace seems all very rushed and looks to have leapfrogged the app in importance .. the thing is is some complete stranger rings you up tomorrow and tells you you’ve been in close contact with a confirmed case are you gonna believe them ... then is everyone who gets the call going to self isolate with their whole family ??


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They are part of the same thing, the track and trace will follow up by those identified on the app

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Zizu

There was a woman interviewed on BBCNews today who was completely underwhelmed by the ‘app’ .

She got a text saying she had been in close vicinity of a positive case and then a link to follow ... the link took her to this


https://www.gov.uk/coronavirus


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That is what track and trace is ...let people know they have been in contact and to self isolate if they get symptoms, what do you want it to do, arrest people on the spot? She will probably get a follow up call from our Cal!

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Cherie

That is what track and trace is ...let people know they have been in contact and to self isolate if they get symptoms, what do you want it to do, arrest people on the spot? She will probably get a follow up call from our Cal!

Matt Hancock just said in the briefing that the ‘human contact tracing’ is where people will get a reassuring (human) CALL advising them to self isolate ..

That’s nothing like what apparently actually happens as they just get a text with a link to the uk government Covid webpage .

I’m quickly losing confidence in Nick and his statements ..


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Cherie

They are part of the same thing, the track and trace will follow up by those identified on the app

.... and they will presumably get a text linking the government Covid webpage..

Great ..


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[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Matt Hancock just said in the briefing that the ‘human contact tracing’ is where people will get a reassuring (human) CALL advising them to self isolate ..

That’s nothing like what apparently actually happens as they just get a text with a link to the uk government Covid webpage .

I’m quickly losing confidence in Nick and his statements ..


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Because they are trialling the app..? ..not the human element ...?

[Cherie]

Scottish schools go back when they normally would after the summer break on 11th August, teachers can go back in June to prepare

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Because they are trialling the app..? ..not the human element ...?

Is that you Matt ...

Whatever the reason ... what he said was happening is NOT happening so he shouldn’t be saying it !!


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[Zizu]

Apparently a primary school in Essex has closed today after 2 students tested possitive for covid-19.


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[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Apparently a primary school in Essex has closed today after 2 students tested possitive for covid-19.


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You say that as if schools are immune, just like any other workplace they are not

primary school has closed after two children tested positive for coronavirus.
Hamford Primary Academy in Walton-on-the-Naze, Essex, informed parents in an email on Monday.
The two pupils, who were from the same key worker family, had not shown any symptoms and had been at the school last week.
A spokeswoman for the school said "the safety of our children, families, and community" was behind the decision.
All children who attended last week were advised to book a coronavirus test, as were their parents, she said.
Staff have been tested, but the school did not say whether any results had come back.
The school's academy trust, Public Health England and the NHS were consulted before Tuesday's closure, she said.
After a deep clean of the building, the academy was now focused on "detailed preparations for a safe return for children", the spokeswoman added.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Cherie

You say that as if schools are immune, just like any other workplace they are not



primary school has closed after two children tested positive for coronavirus.

Hamford Primary Academy in Walton-on-the-Naze, Essex, informed parents in an email on Monday.

The two pupils, who were from the same key worker family, had not shown any symptoms and had been at the school last week.

A spokeswoman for the school said "the safety of our children, families, and community" was behind the decision.

All children who attended last week were advised to book a coronavirus test, as were their parents, she said.

Staff have been tested, but the school did not say whether any results had come back.

The school's academy trust, Public Health England and the NHS were consulted before Tuesday's closure, she said.

After a deep clean of the building, the academy was now focused on "detailed preparations for a safe return for children", the spokeswoman added.

How on earth did you get .. “ you say that as if all schools are immune” from what I posted ??


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[Cherie]

https://www.tes.com/news/coronavirus...top-scientists

An group of leading scientists is warning that a 1 June reopening of schools would be too early for pupils to return to classrooms safely.
The 'Independent Sage' committee chaired by the former chief scientific adviser Sir David King, has carried out new modelling showing that the risk to children would be halved if ministers delayed their planned school opening date by two weeks.
The committee says the later reopening date would allow for more time for an effective "test, trace and isolate" programme to be established.

I believe the government will row back on this now as 1st June was a conditional date set, and this gives them a reason to extend

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Cherie

https://www.tes.com/news/coronavirus...top-scientists



An group of leading scientists is warning that a 1 June reopening of schools would be too early for pupils to return to classrooms safely.

The 'Independent Sage' committee chaired by the former chief scientific adviser Sir David King, has carried out new modelling showing that the risk to children would be halved if ministers delayed their planned school opening date by two weeks.

The committee says the later reopening date would allow for more time for an effective "test, trace and isolate" programme to be established.



I believe the government will row back on this now as 1st June was a conditional date set, and this gives them a reason to extend

I truly hope you’re right !!

Two weeks is a long time in this day and age ..

Pity it’s from the "Independent Sage " group though ..

Sage is releasing a report soon.

This is going to make things even more confusing imo.

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[Zizu]

Christian Drosten, a virologist and Germany’s leading coronavirus expert warns against reopening schools !!

Despite the phased reopenings, scientists in Germany have said children with the coronavirus may be as infectious as adults, and urged caution.
Researchers who analysed data on infected people found that the viral loads in children differed little from those in adults. Opening schools on the assumption that children are less likely to spread the virus was therefore ill-advised, said Christian Drosten, a virologist and Germany’s leading coronavirus expert, who led the team.
Drosten’s study, which was released this week, examined the viral loads in the throats of 3,721 people, including more than 100 children, who tested positive for coronavirus in Berlin between January and April.
He said he had been able to carry out his analysis once the number of tests carried out by Labor Berlin, the largest laboratory of its kind in Europe, had reached the critical mass of 60,000 earlier this week. That gave him and his team enough data to be able to carry out an analysis of children who have had the virus.


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[Zizu]

Scores of councils in England say they cannot guarantee primaries will reopen on 1 June, throwing government plans to get pupils back to school into chaos.

Only 20 of 99 councils to respond to a BBC Breakfast survey said they were advising schools to open more widely on Boris Johnson's target date.

Of the 99 who responded, two thirds (68), could not guarantee schools would reopen to Reception, Year 1 and Year 6.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/education-52758363

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[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Cherie

You say that as if schools are immune, just like any other workplace they are not

primary school has closed after two children tested positive for coronavirus.
Hamford Primary Academy in Walton-on-the-Naze, Essex, informed parents in an email on Monday.
The two pupils, who were from the same key worker family, had not shown any symptoms and had been at the school last week.
A spokeswoman for the school said "the safety of our children, families, and community" was behind the decision.
All children who attended last week were advised to book a coronavirus test, as were their parents, she said.
Staff have been tested, but the school did not say whether any results had come back.
The school's academy trust, Public Health England and the NHS were consulted before Tuesday's closure, she said.
After a deep clean of the building, the academy was now focused on "detailed preparations for a safe return for children", the spokeswoman added.

So they tested the teachers but the kids have to get the tests themselves.....that doesn't seem very fair.