[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Yes..that's fine...we all should be condemning it..so far I'm not seeing much to be fair.

You've never seen condemnation brought on Africa and a lot of the Eastern world?

Come on now, you're old young enough to have seen that loads.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

No the gay people are who are being victimised.

It's a bit infantilising to act like those nations are incapable of sorting themselves out because they were once colonies

Nobody said they're incapable of anything. Do you watch the news? Did you study history?

It's kind of like asking why certain parts of Africa have no running water and are starving to death. It's ignorant.

[parmnion]

Marsh..you ain't making sense again mate.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Nobody said they're incapable of anything. Do you watch the news?

So they are capable of change despite having been colonies, but choose not to?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Marsh..you ain't making sense again mate.

Sorry... ahem....

yOU'VE nEVER sEEN tHE eASTERN wORLD cONDEMNED iN yOUR vERY lONG lIFE???

[parmnion]

Not only choose not to..but making it priority is sickening.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

So they are capable of change despite having been colonies, but choose not to?

So you haven't studied history. Explains a lot.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I disagree because being homosexual in a small town sort of only gives you straight mates to go with with up town because as you say they dont have the social hubs that big cities can afford its large LGBTQ communities.

So in the small town environment because you are with a group of pals and everyone knows everyone in a small town and the fact that crime is low in small towns, the chances of a random smack in the face for being gay is much much smaller than that of London.

But you aren't guaranteed any of that in small towns and homophobia is more than just violence. You can isolate and harm someone without violence and small towns tend to have more closed minded attitudes because of a lack of exposure to the gay scene which is more common in cities.

You can think that discrimination doesn't exist in small towns but the reality is different.

[Marsh.]

The trolling is actually laughable for two guys who claim racism doesn't exist anymore.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Sorry... ahem....

yOU'VE nEVER sEEN tHE eASTERN wORLD cONDEMNED iN yOUR vERY lONG lIFE???

But it's still going on..and getting worse.

You are still wanting me to think about the past...what about now, what about those young men sitting in jail right now battered and bruised.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

But you aren't guaranteed any of that in small towns and homophobia is more than just violence. You can isolate and harm someone without violence and small towns tend to have more closed minded attitudes because of a lack of exposure to the gay scene which is more common in cities.

You can think that discrimination doesn't exist in small towns but the reality is different.

Fair enough, but this thread is about violence towards homosexuals by 34 out of 54 African ran nations.
.which is why I used punch in the face as my judgement.


We are all aware of the way people think in private.

[parmnion]

Hi oliver...do you think racism doesn't exist?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Hi oliver...do you think racism doesn't exist?

I've never said it doesn't exist

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I've never said it doesn't exist

Me either..


That's that sorted then.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

But it's still going on..and getting worse.

You are still wanting me to think about the past...what about now, what about those young men sitting in jail right now battered and bruised.

Erm, no. I'm telling you to look to the past when you're chatting sh*t about why the countries are the way they are.

But racism and homophobia isn't a problem anymore so, really, they're all doing great.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Erm, no. I'm telling you to look to the past when you're chatting sh*t about why the countries are the way they are.

But racism and homophobia isn't a problem anymore so, really, they're all doing great.

Again with the sensationalistic word of the day....racism...



Hellooooo...this is LGBTQ issues.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Again with the sensationalistic word of the day....racism...



Hellooooo...this is LGBTQ issues.

Aww, colonialism too much for you when discussing issues relating to the former British Empire? Maybe choose a different subject?

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Aww, colonialism too much for you when discussing issues relating to the former British Empire? Maybe choose a different subject?

I did when I made the op

[Livia]

Are people under the impression that African countries that belonged to the British Empire were just left to languish? Do people know how much money we send to Africa every year, and for how many years? It's not an empire now, it's a Commonwealth. And Africa gets the largest share of the aid we send. Corrupt governments who starve their own people should be ousted by the UN... an organisation who sits powerlessly while people die of hunger at the hands of a despot.

No one can change the wrongs that were done before any of us were born, but you can accept that governments across the world have been pouring cash into Africa for years, decades... and they're still murdering children because they think they're witches. They're still having sex with virgins because they think it can cure AIDS. I would argue that despite the huge setback of empire, we're forgetting the amount of damage that has been done since.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Livia

Are people under the impression that African countries that belonged to the British Empire were just left to languish? Do people know how much money we send to Africa every year, and for how many years? It's not an empire now, it's a Commonwealth. And Africa gets the largest share of the aid we send. Corrupt governments who starve their own people should be ousted by the UN... an organisation who sits powerlessly while people die of hunger at the hands of a despot.

No one can change the wrongs that were done before any of us were born, but you can accept that governments across the world have been pouring cash into Africa for years, decades... and they're still murdering children because they think they're witches. They're still having sex with virgins because they think it can cure AIDS. I would argue that despite the huge setback of empire, we're forgetting the amount of damage that has been done since.

But none of that is their fault, remember, they have no agency of their own

[Kizzy]

They have the Anglican church.. isn't that enough?

On foreign aid...

'Since 1970, the UN has set a target for donor countries to contribute 0.7% of their GDP on foreign aid.

The UK government has been signed up to the target since 1974, but it only reached it for the first time in 2013.

In 2015, the necessity to hit 0.7% of GDP was enshrined in UK law. While the obligation can’t be enforced through the courts, the international development secretary has to explain themselves to Parliament if the UK doesn’t meet the target.,

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the...et-spent%3famp

[Nicky91]

South Africa, Nigeria are among those African countries who have improved in a lot of things over the years



basically the countries who are probably the worst of the continent are Chad, Sudan, Somalia, in terms of conflicts, corruption, poverty

but yeah 34 out of 54 who don't allow same-sex relationships is still a lot of countries, but you can also say 20 countries do allow same-sex relationships, a more positive look on things, as for the remaining 34 who knows maybe they'll change over the years

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

They have the Anglican church.. isn't that enough?

On foreign aid...

'Since 1970, the UN has set a target for donor countries to contribute 0.7% of their GDP on foreign aid.

The UK government has been signed up to the target since 1974, but it only reached it for the first time in 2013.

In 2015, the necessity to hit 0.7% of GDP was enshrined in UK law. While the obligation can’t be enforced through the courts, the international development secretary has to explain themselves to Parliament if the UK doesn’t meet the target.,

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the...et-spent%3famp

And yet our contribution of development aid to the world is the second highest in the world after the USA. Shame on the other countries.... Shame....

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

And yet our contribution of development aid to the world is the second highest in the world after the USA. Shame on the other countries.... Shame....

That's not true

'The only donors more generous than Britain by proportion of their economies are Sweden (1.01%), Luxembourg (1%), Norway (0.99%) and Denmark (0.72%),”*The Times*reported in 2018. The non-Western countries that exceeded the UN target were the United Arab Emirates and Turkey, it adds'

Of course, some of the aid might be reparation?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-33618621

[bitontheslide]

i thought this was a question taken from family fortunes for a moment