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Old 22-06-2020, 04:09 PM #76
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David Wails is the third victim to be named
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I feel more unsafe for myself and my family due to Twitter accounts like this raising blatant Racism and Islamaphobia than I would in anyway from migrants.
...yeah totally, Leon...the social media sites are toxic in terms of promoting prejudices...
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I wouldn’t let any stranger into my house, the question I was asking, was why are these strangers scarier than the average stranger on the street? There’s one very big reason.
They are not any scarier, the difference is they are undocumented with no history so any criminal past is wiped clean
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They are not any scarier, the difference is they are undocumented with no history so any criminal past is wiped clean
And there are many white British criminals walking around that haven’t been caught so have no record?

As a gay, I’ve had to learn to adhere my behaviour to the outside world so I don’t attract attention from the wrong type of people and find myself in a dangerous situation, migrants crossing the boarder isn’t a massive boogeyman to me, we have to be weary of everyone, immigrants aren’t an exclusive threat to the UK
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And there are many white British criminals walking around that haven’t been caught so have no record?

As a gay, I’ve had to learn to adhere my behaviour to the outside world so I don’t attract attention from the wrong type of people and find myself in a dangerous situation, migrants crossing the boarder isn’t a massive boogeyman to me, we have to be weary of everyone, immigrants aren’t an exclusive threat to the UK
I dont think anyone would disagree with that and I never intimated anything of the sort that you are suggesting..illegals are just that...in the country illegally and should be shipped back to whence they came unless there is a legitimate reason for them to stay
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I dont think anyone would disagree with that and I never intimated anything of the sort that you are suggesting..illegals are just that...in the country illegally and should be shipped back to whence they came unless there is a legitimate reason for them to stay
You seemed to be agreeing with the tweet at hand, asking us if we feel safe, the answer is, I and many other people don’t feel 100% safe in a lot of situations, no matter whether someone is illegal, legal or born here, when you have things like that to worry about, it doesn’t matter what someone’s immigration status is
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All victims were vocal members of the local LGBTQ community.

RIP.
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I do not support this Tweet.
But I am posting it to show views...................

I do not support this tweet, but let me show you my thread on this very subject...
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I do not support this tweet, but let me show you my thread on this very subject...

Well Done Slim.
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All victims were vocal members of the local LGBTQ community.

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I wonder if his harddrive's been searched yet, and how much extremist material is on it...

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All victims were vocal members of the local LGBTQ community.

RIP.
Hmm, it's possible it's a coincidence, and their little group just happened to be the one he went for.

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I'm not scared of any individuals. But they come from cultures with crappy views toward women and LGBT people, so I'd theoretically have more to worry about than Bob Random.
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There are over 20,000 people on the list. More than 3000 of them are seen as extremely dangerous.

How are we going to follow and track them all?

Why would the security services want to show the public the list or anything about it? How would you know what was evidence and what wasn't?
This is genuinely terrifying
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They say that, but you could get attacked by anybody on the street, you walk past people you don’t know every day, why are those people any scarier?... one guess
Lol you act like there's not a reason for it
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All victims were vocal members of the local LGBTQ community.

RIP.
This is true

My friend said, that her friend said, that the terrorist was on grinder.

I wouldn’t wanna throw out theories about how interlinked these are but doesn’t the app show you how close people are by the meter?
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it doesn't matter what the individuals motivations were, anyone that goes around stabbing people is a nut job and should never see the light of day again.
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it doesn't matter what the individuals motivations were, anyone that goes around stabbing people is a nut job and should never see the light of day again.
Its not like he stopped with killing the 3, he ran after someone else who was too fast for him and then turn to another group sitting on the grass with their back to him, and stabbed them, not fatally thankfully
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This is true

My friend said, that her friend said, that the terrorist was on grinder.

I wouldn’t wanna throw out theories about how interlinked these are but doesn’t the app show you how close people are by the meter?
This is terrifying and I feel like this is a really important factor that people should be talking about. ESP if they were targeted specifically for being LGBT
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islamic terror is our BIG worry (terrorism) - prisons are the breeding ground and poor border control as has been discussed here at length

no threat is anywhere close for sure

the GBP and security services know this and are worried
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This is terrifying and I feel like this is a really important factor that people should be talking about. ESP if they were targeted specifically for being LGBT
isnt it just 3 gay guys were sitting together?]



or have i got that wrong?
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This is true

My friend said, that her friend said, that the terrorist was on grinder.

I wouldn’t wanna throw out theories about how interlinked these are but doesn’t the app show you how close people are by the meter?
I never lie.
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isnt it just 3 gay guys were sitting together?]







or have i got that wrong?


I heard it was a group of around 10 or so guys standing together chatting ..


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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...airi-saadallah

Is it just me? ( prob)

Why is this a terrorist incident? Yes the young man was a refugee but this does not appear to have the hallmarks of any ideological reasoning behind it.

The man was simply mentally unstable generally. Can you not be a foreign national and just have a breakdown?
It's very confusing given the recent history of terrorist incidents to have some extremist link, there doesn't appear to be one. Therefore the suggestion he is is a little bit misleading.
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Is it just me? ( prob)

Why is this a terrorist incident? Yes the young man was a refugee but this does not appear to have the hallmarks of any ideological reasoning behind it.

The man was simply mentally unstable generally. Can you not be a foreign national and just have a breakdown?
It's very confusing given the recent history of terrorist incidents to have some extremist link, there doesn't appear to be one. Therefore the suggestion he is is a little bit misleading.
I believe this is the reason

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I believe this is the reason

No that's ridiculous, the attackers motive here was obviously that he's homophobic. Now to commit these kinds of terrorist attacks, being mentally unstable is a given. But it's why they commit these acts, the driving force. Islamic driven terrorist attacks are the number 1 cause of anything terror related in the UK. These people believe in a cause, and are more times than not encouraged and aided by perfectly stable people.
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