[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Remember she's American, race is more of a "thing" there. It's not something most Brits (of any race) need to think about, but the USA has an uglier history of race relations.

Hmmmmm whilst general population race issues MAY be less tense here than in the US... I'm not entirely sure that applies to the aristocracy or royalty. There are some clear implications there and it's hardly the first time the issue of racism has reared it's head in the family. Philip exists.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Hmmmmm whilst general population race issues MAY be less tense here than in the US... I'm not entirely sure that applies to the aristocracy or royalty. There are some clear implications there and it's hardly the first time the issue of racism has reared it's head in the family. Philip exists.

I get what you're saying, but which do you find more likely

- Princess Michael thought "mwahaha, this brooch will really annoy the **** **** with whom Harry insists knocking about!!!"

- She rummaged through her jewellery box, thought it looked nice, and bunged it on

?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Hmmmmm whilst general population race issues MAY be less tense here than in the US... I'm not entirely sure that applies to the aristocracy or royalty. There are some clear implications there and it's hardly the first time the issue of racism has reared it's head in the family. Philip exists.

mmmhhmm

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I get what you're saying, but which do you find more likely

- Princess Michael thought "mwahaha, this brooch will really annoy the **** **** with whom Harry insists knocking about!!!"

- She rummaged through her jewellery box, thought it looked nice, and bunged it on

?

tbf it could as easily be either answer Oliver

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

tbf it could as easily be either answer Oliver

Wait, you censored the word ******? that's accepted slang for Americans, there's even a football team called that!

[Ammi]

...how anyone could think that brooch looked nice is beyond me...I can’t think it would have been worn for any other reason than to ‘state something‘...it’s hideous....

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I get what you're saying, but which do you find more likely

- Princess Michael thought "mwahaha, this brooch will really annoy the Yankee negress with whom Harry insists knocking about!!!"

- She rummaged through her jewellery box, thought it looked nice, and bunged it on

?

If it was (mostly) anyone else I'd give the benefit of the doubt but with Princess Michael I think there's a high probability that it was intentional. She has prior. It may have been intended to be more subtle than it was.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Philip exists.

Prince Philip is renowned for speaking his mind. Here we celebrate his best jokes and gaffes from over the years.

"British women can't cook" (in Britain in 1966).

"What do you gargle with, pebbles?" (speaking to singer Tom Jones after the 1969 Royal Variety Performance).

"I declare this thing open, whatever it is." (on a visit to Canada in 1969).

"Everybody was saying we must have more leisure. Now they are complaining they are unemployed" (during the 1981 recession).

"If it has got four legs and it is not a chair, if it has got two wings and it flies but is not an aeroplane, and if it swims and it is not a submarine, the Cantonese will eat it." (at a 1986 World Wildlife Fund meeting).

"It looks like a tart's bedroom." (on seeing plans for the Duke and Duchess of York's house at Sunninghill Park in 1988).

"Yak, yak, yak; come on get a move on." (shouted from the deck of Britannia in Belize in 1994 to the Queen who was chatting to her hosts on the quayside).
"We didn't have counsellors rushing around every time somebody let off a gun, asking 'Are you all right? Are you sure you don't have a ghastly problem?' You just got on with it." (about the Second World War commenting on modern stress counselling for servicemen in 1995).

"How do you keep the natives off the booze long enough to get them through the test?" (to a driving instructor in Oban, Scotland, during a 1995 walkabout).

"If a cricketer, for instance, suddenly decided to go into a school and batter a lot of people to death with a cricket bat, which he could do very easily, I mean, are you going to ban cricket bats?" (in 1996, amid calls to ban firearms after the Dunblane shooting).

"Bloody silly fool!" (in 1997, referring to a Cambridge University car park attendant who did not recognise him).

"It looks as if it was put in by an Indian." (pointing at an old-fashioned fusebox in a factory near Edinburgh in 1999).

"Deaf? If you are near there, no wonder you are deaf." (to young deaf people in Cardiff, in 1999, referring to a school's steel band).

"They must be out of their minds." (in the Solomon Islands, in 1982, when he was told that the annual population growth was 5%).

"You are a woman, aren't you?"(In Kenya, in 1984, after accepting a small gift from a local woman).

"If you stay here much longer, you'll all be slitty-eyed." (to British students in China, during the 1986 state visit).

"Your country is one of the most notorious centres of trading in endangered species in the world." (in Thailand, in 1991, after accepting a conservation award).

"Oh no, I might catch some ghastly disease." (in Australia, in 1992, when asked to stroke a Koala bear).

"You can't have been here that long - you haven't got a pot belly." (to a Briton in Budapest, Hungary, in 1993).

"Aren't most of you descended from pirates?" (to a wealthy islander in the Cayman Islands in 1994).

"You managed not to get eaten, then?" (suggesting to a student in 1998 who had been trekking in Papua New Guinea that tribes there were still cannibals).

In Germany, in 1997, he welcomed German Chancellor Helmut Kohl at a trade fair as "Reichskanzler" - the last German leader who used the title was Adolf Hitler.

"You're too fat to be an astronaut." (to 13-year-old Andrew Adams who told Philip he wanted to go into space. Salford, 2001).

"I wish he'd turn the microphone off." (muttered at the Royal Variety Performance as he watched Sir Elton John perform, 2001).

"Do you still throw spears at each other?" (In Australia in 2002 talking to a successful aborigine entrepreneur).

"You look like a suicide bomber." (to a young female officer wearing a bullet-proof vest on Stornoway, Isle of Lewis, in 2002).

"Do you know they're now producing eating dogs for anorexics?" (to a blind woman outside Exeter Cathedral, 2002).

"Well, you didn't design your beard too well, did you?" (to designer Stephen Judge about his tiny goatee beard in July 2009).

"There's a lot of your family in tonight." (after looking at the name badge of businessman Atul Patel at a Palace reception for British Indians in October 2009).

"Do you work it a strip club?" (to 24-year-old Barnstaple Sea Cadet Elizabeth Rendle when she told him she also worked in a nightclub in March 2010).

"Do you have a pair of knickers made out of this?" (pointing to some tartan to Scottish Conservative leader Annabel Goldie a papal reception in Edinburgh in September 2010).

"Bits are beginning to drop off." (on approaching his 90th birthday, 2011).
"How many people have you knocked over this morning on that thing?" (meeting disabled David Miller who drives a mobility scooter at the Valentine Mansion in Redbridge in March 2012).

"I would get arrested if I unzipped that dress." (to 25-year-old council worker Hannah Jackson, who was wearing a dress with a zip running the length of its front, on a Jubilee visit to Bromley, Kent, in May 2012).

"The Philippines must be half empty as you're all here running the NHS." (on meeting a Filipino nurse at a Luton hospital in February 2013).

"Most stripping is done by hand." (to 83-year-old Mars factory worker Audrey Cook when discussing how she used to strip or cut Mars Bars by hand in April 2013).

"(Children) go to school because their parents don't want them in the house." (prompting giggles from Malala Yousafzai, who survived an assassination attempt by the Taliban after campaigning for the right of girls to go to school without fear - October 2013).

"Just take the *******ing picture." (losing patience with an RAF photographer at events to mark the 75th anniversary of the Battle of Britain - July 2015).

"You look starved." (to a pensioner on a visit to the Charterhouse almshouse for elderly men - February 2017)

"I'm just a bloody amoeba." (on the Queen's decision that their children should be called Windsor, not Mountbatten).

"Gentlemen, I think it is time we pulled our fingers out."(to the Industrial Co-Partnership Association on Britain's inefficient industries in 1961).

"Are you asking me if the Queen is going to die?" (on being questioned on when the Prince of Wales would succeed to the throne).

"If the man had succeeded in abducting Anne, she would have given him a hell of a time while in captivity." (On a gunman who tried to kidnap the Princess Royal in 1974).

"I hope he breaks his bloody neck." (when a photographer covering a royal visit to India fell out of a tree).

"If it doesn't fart or eat hay, she's not interested." (on the Princess Royal).

"When a man opens a car door for his wife, it's either a new car or a new wife." (on marriage).

"It's a pleasant change to be in a country that isn't ruled by its people." (to Alfredo Stroessner, the Paraguayan dictator).

"Where did you get that hat?" (supposedly to Queen at her Coronation).

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Wait, you censored the word ***? that's accepted slang for Americans, there's even a football team called that!

Can you not post it again after I deleted it, thanks. It was pretty offensive in the context it was used

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...how anyone could think that brooch looked nice is beyond me...I can’t think it would have been worn for any other reason than to ‘state something‘...it’s hideous....

"The English take the breeding of their horses and dogs more seriously than they do their children," she told Welt am Sonntag. "God forbid that the wrong drop of blood should get into their labrador. But their children marry everywhere."

Princess Michael of Kent

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

"The English take the breeding of their horses and dogs more seriously than they do their children," she told Welt am Sonntag. "God forbid that the wrong drop of blood should get into their labrador. But their children marry everywhere."

Princess Michael of Kent

...this was something..(...part of a quote..)...about Harry...back in the day when he wore the Nazi uniform...

[Ammi]

...poor Meghan, though...she had the undertones of racism to contend with plus being referred to as Harry’s ‘showgirl’ within their own circles ...Lord, she became a miserable pain though, what on Earth was wrong with her...

[Ammi]

...just going to the brooch again because I’m just reading this now... so such an offensive Brooch was allowed but when Meghan wore a necklace with her and Harry’s initials on it ....an ‘MH’ necklace...she got a phone call from a senior palace aide, asking her not to wear it again...."She was advised that wearing such a necklace only served to encourage the photographers to keep pursuing such images - and new headlines."...(...all allegedly in the book, obviously...)...

[jet]

According to accounts, Meghan suffered from racism in school, in her acting career; is that part of why she fled back to a country far more racist than our own, which she herself stated when she and Harry went to live in Canada that she would never return to while Trump was still president....

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by jet

According to accounts, Meghan suffered from racism in school, in her acting career; is that part of why she fled back to a country far more racist than our own, which she herself stated when she and Harry went to live in Canada that she would never return to while Trump was still president....

Maybe she learned the grass wasn't greener...........

Are people not allowed to change their minds? I change my mind all the time

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Maybe she learned the grass wasn't greener...........

Are people not allowed to change their minds? I change my mind all the time

are you sure about that?

[jet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Maybe she learned the grass wasn't greener...........

Are people not allowed to change their minds? I change my mind all the time

You women and your perogatives

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

are you sure about that?

Originally Posted by jet

You women and your perogatives

Too right

[jet]

Princess Michael was always a snobby horror. Diana couldn't stand her and apparently one day when Princess Michael went into the courtyard to greet her guests Diana threw open the window and sang 'Oh what a loverly morning...'
- topless!

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by jet

Princess Michael was always a snobby horror. Diana couldn't stand her and apparently one day when Princess Michael went into the courtyard to greet her guests Diana threw open the window and sang 'Oh what a loverly morning...'
- topless!

brilliant

I always thought the brooch was worn to offend tbf

[LeatherTrumpet]

i think that her taking issue with a brooch and not giving the benefit of the doubt really just illustrates waht a nasty piece of work she is. Also in the book it says that she saw Charles as her 2nd Father. well she has rinsed her actual dad out to dry so that really is just another dig at her poor father whom she despises

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i think that her taking issue with a brooch and not giving the benefit of the doubt really just illustrates waht a nasty piece of work she is. Also in the book it says that she saw Charles as her 2nd Father. well she has rinsed her actual dad out to dry so that really is just another dig at her poor father whom she despises

The idea that people "owe" their parents unconditional good regard and respect regardless of their actions is an inherently flawed one, I find. Really it's just used as an excuse to be a ****ty parent (or person) and then say "Waaaah you have to still like & respect me because I spat you out of my willy(/pushed you out of my vagina) AND I spent money on feeding you waah".

If I turn out to be a crappy dad I hope I've at least done a good enough job to raise daughters with the self-confidence to tell me so and avoid me. Know what I won't do if that happens? Whine about it to tabloid journalists for cash.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by toy soldier

the idea that people "owe" their parents unconditional good regard and respect regardless of their actions is an inherently flawed one, i find. Really it's just used as an excuse to be a ****ty parent (or person) and then say "waaaah you have to still like & respect me because i spat you out of my willy(/pushed you out of my vagina) and i spent money on feeding you waah".

If i turn out to be a crappy dad i hope i've at least done a good enough job to raise daughters with the self-confidence to tell me so and avoid me. Know what i won't do if that happens? Whine about it to tabloid journalists for cash.

you do realise she literally falls out with everyone?

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

you do realise she literally falls out with everyone?

Yes I'm sure her relationships with "everyone" have been fully documented, and people don't have a vested interest in only reporting those she's had fallouts with.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by jet

Yes, but WHY is he talking about worrying, concerning issues every other day NOW. It was a rare thing to see him do so in all of his 36 years. Even in the past when talking about his passion, the Invictus games, his infectious, bubbly personality shone through. That is completely gone. Maybe because he was sincerely passionate and enthusiastic about the Invictus games and wounded veterans. I'm not sure his heart is fully in what he is saying now, he sounds like Meghans puppet.

Does he really believe that the British public are happy to tolerate an enormously privileged man wagging his finger at them about their supposed racism, actually apologising for them and their ‘unconscious bias’ or how they are destroying the environment while hopping on private jets and driving gas guzzling SUV’s. I mean, who does he think he is?

They left the Royal family, thinking they were going to be lauded in the USA, (or more likely, Meghan did) - mingling with A list celebs, bringing in big bucks making speeches and being the star turn at glittering charity balls. Meghan becoming a big noise in politics even - and I think now that is her aim, and why they are jumping on the latest ‘in’ cause to come along every 5 minutes. Their biggest fear, imo, is fading into obscurity after their big dramatic departure from the Royals, so they have to get their faces out there somehow, anyhow.

That was a big reason why they left the Royals in the first place - the 2 heirs were more important than they were and they couldn’t bear not being the star turns. The public being all newly fangled with the newlyweds went to their heads and they thought the world was their oyster and the Royals would suffer terribly without them - It was the “We’ll show them”!!! mentality. Well, all they have showed us is 2 bores who are desperate for relevance. JMO!

....I couldnt agree more.