[UserSince2005]

So ****ing weird.
Murder cannot be justified but I could come to some sense of killing your wife in a fit of rage, but to drive your kiddies in the back of the car for an hour and then murder them is just so ****ed up.
Steroids do weird things to the brain.

For me the most interesting part of the documentary was watching the footage of his initial reaction to her disappearance.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

So ****ing weird.
Murder cannot be justified but I could come to some sense of killing your wife in a fit of rage, but to drive your kiddies in the back of the car for an hour and then murder them is just so ****ed up.
Steroids do weird things to the brain.

For me the most interesting part of the documentary was watching the footage of his initial reaction to her disappearance.

Yeah the neighbour had his number instantly

[Cherie]

How did he think he was going to sell the house while she was still a missing person?

He really came across as of very low intelligence

Killing them was all about releasing the assets which makes it even worse as that was going to take forever if they were never found

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

How did he think he was going to sell the house while she was still a missing person?

He really came across as of very low intelligence

Killing them was all about releasing the assets which makes it even worse as that was going to take forever if they were never found

Yeah he was really stupid, firstly he was always going to be looked at most intensely by the Police because he's the husband, anyone who has ever watched TV or read a newspaper knows that, how did he think they wouldn't find out he'd un-rolled his daughter from school or tried to put the house on the market or that they wouldn't find out he'd been seeing someone else?

[Niamh.]

Also apparently there's inconsistencies with the girl friends story too, she says they'd only been seeing each other for a couple of months and that Chris was more into her than the other way round but apparently they found search history on her phone from a year previous googling both Chris and Shanann's names

[Ammi]

...the whole cast is weird, his girlfriend didn’t particularly appear to me to be stunned by it all...but maybe that’s just how it was edited...

...and also how he completely couldn’t be with Shanann at all or show her any affection, seemed weird as well...how completely he’d fallen out of love with her to the point that he couldn’t touch her...

[Ammi]

...it wasn’t like he loved two people at the same time, he just completely lost his love for Shanann...I mean, completely...

[Niamh.]

Yeah, I was saying he reminded me a bit of Joe from the TV show You, have you watched that Ammi? He would get completely obsessed with a person but could also just switch once a new "love" came along

[Ammi]

...no I haven’t seen You...I’ll look it up if it’s on Netflix...but I just don’t understand how he could have gone from really feeling his family and being thrilled about her pregnancy and having a son...to killing them all in the way he did...his girlfriend is barely featured but I just feel that Mose specifics of his relationship with her is a big ‘piece of the jigsaw/mystery’ that we need to have as well..

[Niamh.]

Well he clearly didn't think or feel like a normal person, no normal person could behave the way he did and he comes across so unemotional and unempathetic as well. The most emotional he looked was when he was watching that CCTV video of his neighbours so a fear for himself

[Ammi]

..he was also quite contrived and manipulative in the interview when he knew that if his father thought that Shanann had killed the girls...?...he would keep him onside and keep his support...

[Ammi]

...ughhhh, you really so need to watch Dear Zachary, Niamh...as well as being on YouTube, it was on Netflix but I’m not sure if it’s still on there now though...but it brings a new meaning to ‘evil’...

[UserSince2005]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..he was also quite contrived and manipulative in the interview when he knew that if his father thought that Shanann had killed the girls...?...he would keep him onside and keep his support...

i think he was probs just embarrassed to admit he killed the two girls, its not something to be proud of.

He was just stupid narcissist.

[UserSince2005]

Has anyone watch evil genius on netflix?
its a slow start trying to work out who everyone is in the story, but its got some good twists and turns

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...ughhhh, you really so need to watch Dear Zachary, Niamh...as well as being on YouTube, it was on Netflix but I’m not sure if it’s still on there now though...but it brings a new meaning to ‘evil’...

I will definitely, thanks

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

Has anyone watch evil genius on netflix?
its a slow start trying to work out who everyone is in the story, but its got some good twists and turns

Yeah i watched that, very interesting story (and weird)

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Also apparently there's inconsistencies with the girl friends story too, she says they'd only been seeing each other for a couple of months and that Chris was more into her than the other way round but apparently they found search history on her phone from a year previous googling both Chris and Shanann's names

that sounds extremely odd, but yeah the seeing each other for two months thing does seem a bit unrealistic, he did say in that DM article that he would take the person's name who supplied him with the drug to try and abort the baby to his grave, maybe she gave it to him?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

that sounds extremely odd, but yeah the seeing each other for two months thing does seem a bit unrealistic, he did say in that DM article that he would take the person's name who supplied him with the drug to try and abort the baby to his grave, maybe she gave it to him?

I'm watching a YouTube series called Unmasked about her with all the interviews and phone calls between her and investigating officer, she's sketchy as ****, definitely not telling the truth about what went on between herself and Chris

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..l’m going to bring this forward because it’s such a recommended watch...it’s something that I watched several years ago and re-watched recently after American Murder...so far as premeditated/cold/evil etc ...it really is looking evil/‘the devil’ right in the face...but it’s also looking goodness and love in the face as well.../..heartbreakingly sad but uplifting...

Halfway through this atm Ammi the guy who made this really manages to bring Andrew alive. What a complete psychopath that woman is, heartbreaking

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...ughhhh, you really so need to watch Dear Zachary, Niamh...as well as being on YouTube, it was on Netflix but I’m not sure if it’s still on there now though...but it brings a new meaning to ‘evil’...

Spoiler:

ugh I have about 30 minutes left and I'm terrified she's going to kill Zachery

[Niamh.]

Spoiler:

aw ****, ****, ****. Evil bitch

[Ammi]

Spoiler:

...I think that it was his dad who said that it really was looking into the face of evil...but how inspirational were his parents.../...amazing people...

[Ammi]

Spoiler:

...also, considering that it’s as a time before social media etc and the ease of taking vids on phones...there was some amazing footage of Andrew...as you say, really brought him alive.....

[AnnieK]

I read the story of Andrew and I can't bring myself to watch the video as I know how it ends.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I'm watching a YouTube series called Unmasked about her with all the interviews and phone calls between her and investigating officer, she's sketchy as ****, definitely not telling the truth about what went on between herself and Chris

I started watching that too shes definitely dodgy as hell

[Amy Jade]

I'm just watching and I'm impressed by how much is actual footage rather than just someone talking