Home Menu

Site Navigation


Notices

Serious Debates & News Debate and discussion about political, moral, philosophical, celebrity and news topics.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 17-09-2021, 12:33 PM #151
Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rusticgal View Post
Maybe if she had shown some genuine remorse over her actions in the first place she wouldn't be in the situation she is today...
Is there a time limit on remorse?
Toy Soldier is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 17-09-2021, 12:38 PM #152
rusticgal's Avatar
rusticgal rusticgal is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 24,380


rusticgal rusticgal is offline
Senior Member
rusticgal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 24,380


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toy Soldier View Post
Is there a time limit on remorse?


Any remorse she shows now is simply an act of desperation to return to this country....imo.
rusticgal is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 17-09-2021, 12:40 PM #153
Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rusticgal View Post
Any remorse she shows now is simply an act of desperation to return to this country....imo.
But it wouldn't have been had she shown it earlier?
Toy Soldier is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 17-09-2021, 02:14 PM #154
rusticgal's Avatar
rusticgal rusticgal is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 24,380


rusticgal rusticgal is offline
Senior Member
rusticgal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 24,380


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toy Soldier View Post
But it wouldn't have been had she shown it earlier?

That’s right…well done.
rusticgal is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 17-09-2021, 02:17 PM #155
Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rusticgal View Post
That’s right…well done.
What was the cut off point?
Toy Soldier is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 17-09-2021, 02:27 PM #156
rusticgal's Avatar
rusticgal rusticgal is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 24,380


rusticgal rusticgal is offline
Senior Member
rusticgal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 24,380


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toy Soldier View Post
What was the cut off point?

She had plenty of opportunities to show remorse when she was initially interviewed. It’s only since she realised her lack of remorse went against her that she’s now being remorseful…
rusticgal is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 17-09-2021, 02:53 PM #157
AnnieK's Avatar
AnnieK AnnieK is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Manchester
Posts: 14,171


AnnieK AnnieK is offline
Senior Member
AnnieK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Manchester
Posts: 14,171


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bitontheslide View Post
but there are no guessing games, she isn't coming back, end of story. The only people trying to confuse the issue are the ones who want a terrorist brought back to the UK. Everyone else is perfectly fine with the situation as it is.
There are at least 360 UK citizens who went to fight FOR ISIS who have returned quietly with full support of the Government. They could be walking round your town or mine. How do you feel about that? How is their situation any different to hers other than they have not had their faces splashed all over the media so they are faceless hence posing a far greater risk to the UK public - de-radicalised or not.

I struggle to understand why we have made such an example of this one young girl. I have very limited sympathy for her except for a sense of unjust treatment when we have allowed actual fighters, killers and terrorists to return.
__________________
AnnieK is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 17-09-2021, 03:25 PM #158
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 166,044
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 166,044
Default

She said
If Isis came to the camp
she would rather die than join them.
arista is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 17-09-2021, 03:29 PM #159
Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by arista View Post
She said
If Isis came to the camp
she would rather die than join them.
She had to say it before 8.59pm on the 9th of August unfortunately. She unwittingly missed the window of benefit of the doubt, so now it's lies.
Toy Soldier is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 17-09-2021, 09:09 PM #160
Tom4784 Tom4784 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,095
Tom4784 Tom4784 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,095
Default

Deleted Post

Last edited by Tom4784; 20-12-2021 at 11:00 PM.
Tom4784 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 22-11-2021, 07:33 AM #161
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 166,044
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 166,044
Default

Yes another Interview
this time with SkyNewsHD.


Latest : she was groomed by friends and older men
she met online before joining the terror group.

https://news.sky.com/story/shamima-b...in-uk-12475239
arista is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 22-11-2021, 07:57 AM #162
Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Default

OMFG did whoever checks content for sky not realise what the first two words in that video are??
Toy Soldier is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 22-11-2021, 08:04 AM #163
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 166,044
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 166,044
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toy Soldier View Post
OMFG did whoever checks content for sky not realise what the first two words in that video are??
What?


Her Speaking was fine
arista is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 22-11-2021, 08:07 AM #164
Cherie's Avatar
Cherie Cherie is offline
This Witch doesn't burn
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 61,614

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Cherie Cherie is offline
This Witch doesn't burn
Cherie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 61,614

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toy Soldier View Post
OMFG did whoever checks content for sky not realise what the first two words in that video are??
what are they?
__________________


'put a bit of lippy on and run a brush through your hair, we are alcoholics, not savages'
Cherie is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 22-11-2021, 08:11 AM #165
Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cherie View Post
what are they?
I'm not repeating on here . One of them says "S - N" and another one laughs. They're obviously just having a joke as young people do but Sky could have cropped it out...

...either that or I'm mishearing but I don't think so, it's pretty clear! It's literally the first second.
Toy Soldier is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 22-11-2021, 08:21 AM #166
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 166,044
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 166,044
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toy Soldier View Post
I'm not repeating on here . One of them says "S - N" and another one laughs. They're obviously just having a joke as young people do but Sky could have cropped it out...

...either that or I'm mishearing but I don't think so, it's pretty clear! It's literally the first second.


The Presenter is talking over that
so most will not hear it.
arista is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 22-11-2021, 08:25 AM #167
Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by arista View Post
The Presenter is talking over that
so most will not hear it.
I assume they missed it when putting the video together. I do remember a fantastic occasion when ITV interviewed a Scottish football fan at an airport and didn't realise that he had used the fantastic phrase "anyc *nt" (in place of "anyone") during the interview.

Last edited by Toy Soldier; 22-11-2021 at 08:26 AM.
Toy Soldier is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 22-11-2021, 09:33 AM #168
Cherie's Avatar
Cherie Cherie is offline
This Witch doesn't burn
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 61,614

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Cherie Cherie is offline
This Witch doesn't burn
Cherie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 61,614

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toy Soldier View Post
I'm not repeating on here . One of them says "S - N" and another one laughs. They're obviously just having a joke as young people do but Sky could have cropped it out...

...either that or I'm mishearing but I don't think so, it's pretty clear! It's literally the first second.
I can vaguely hear it now, you must have some high definition speakers
__________________


'put a bit of lippy on and run a brush through your hair, we are alcoholics, not savages'
Cherie is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 22-11-2021, 11:42 AM #169
Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cherie View Post
I can vaguely hear it now, you must have some high definition speakers
7.1 surround sound gaming headphones innitt #Gamr4Lyfe
Toy Soldier is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 22-11-2021, 11:45 AM #170
bitontheslide's Avatar
bitontheslide bitontheslide is offline
self-oscillating
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 45,689

Favourites:
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Sian


bitontheslide bitontheslide is offline
self-oscillating
bitontheslide's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 45,689

Favourites:
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Sian


Default

is s-n a step up from s-m?
bitontheslide is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 22-11-2021, 01:32 PM #171
MTVN's Avatar
MTVN MTVN is offline
All hail the Moyesiah
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: West Country
Posts: 56,766

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Lewis G


MTVN MTVN is offline
All hail the Moyesiah
MTVN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: West Country
Posts: 56,766

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Lewis G


Default

Genuinely have no idea what the word is
MTVN is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 22-11-2021, 01:38 PM #172
Tom4784 Tom4784 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,095
Tom4784 Tom4784 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,095
Default

Deleted Post

Last edited by Tom4784; 20-12-2021 at 11:00 PM.
Tom4784 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 22-11-2021, 01:50 PM #173
Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MTVN View Post
Genuinely have no idea what the word is
A racially offensive slur for people of middle-eastern origin. I imagine it was being relayed that someone else had used it on one of them, and they were laughing about it.
Toy Soldier is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 22-11-2021, 04:48 PM #174
Zizu's Avatar
Zizu Zizu is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 27,259
Zizu Zizu is offline
Senior Member
Zizu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 27,259
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dezzy View Post
The way this country has handled the Shamima Begum situation continues to be embarrassing and gross.

Please expand ...


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Zizu is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 22-11-2021, 08:58 PM #175
Tom4784 Tom4784 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,095
Tom4784 Tom4784 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,095
Default

Deleted Post

Last edited by Tom4784; 20-12-2021 at 11:00 PM.
Tom4784 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Reply

Bookmark/share this topic

Tags
appeal, begaum, begum, court, shamima, supreme, uk


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 08:26 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
 

About Us ThisisBigBrother.com

"Big Brother and UK Television Forum. Est. 2001"

 

© 2023
no new posts