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parmnion · 23-05-2021, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

So you seek to deny people's history over a hysteric fear and an assumption about an entire race. Grim.

It's not peoples history...

Peoples history starts from the day they were born, or imo, conceived..

Tom4784 · 23-05-2021, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

In sure there was plenty raping going on in africa before anyone was colonised...sign of the times I'm afraid

'We should ignore the reality of our ancestors and live in ignorance over the past because other people were rapists to so that makes it okay.'

****ed up attitude. Ignorance breeds bigotry and you're arguing for ignorance by acting like the past is some sort of disease that infects the present. Acknowledging the past is how we ensure to never repeat it.

Marsh. · 23-05-2021, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

So you think no black kid has learnt about slavery and spent the rest if his life hating whites for it

Grow up.

Hmm, I think it's you who needs to grow up. You're living in a fantasy world.

Tom4784 · 23-05-2021, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

It's not peoples history...

Peoples history starts from the day they were born, or imo, conceived..

Wrong.

Personal history is different to world history, ancestral history, natural history, etc.

Choosing ignorance is never the answer.

parmnion · 23-05-2021, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

'We should ignore the reality of our ancestors and live in ignorance over the past because other people were rapists to so that makes it okay.'

****ed up attitude. Ignorance breeds bigotry and you're arguing for ignorance by acting like the past is some sort of disease that infects the present. Acknowledging the past is how we ensure to never repeat it.

And hows that going so far dezzy..are we not repeating it or is it still happening?...I mean it's been 2021 years since jesus!!

And we are still teaching about him...

Marsh. · 23-05-2021, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

It's not peoples history...

Peoples history starts from the day they were born, or imo, conceived..

Except the reality of people's lives and where they are in the world is hugely reliant on what came before their birth. Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows that. People don't exist in a vacuum.

parmnion · 23-05-2021, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

Wrong.

Personal history is different to world history, ancestral history, natural history, etc.

Choosing ignorance is never the answer.

Prince harry now hates the royal family....he was taught their history.

It breeds hatred, and that's the end off it..

Put me on your pathetic little list as well if you want.

parmnion · 23-05-2021, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh.

Except the reality of people's lives and where they are in the world is hugely reliant on what came before their birth. Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows that. People don't exist in a vacuum.

Because decades upon decades of teaching your countries history to kids has kept the history hatred alive to this day..

Tom4784 · 23-05-2021, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

And hows that going so far dezzy..are we not repeating it or is it still happening?...I mean it's been 2021 years since jesus!!

And we are still teaching about him...

Well, I haven't seen any world wars for a while, and the slave trade as it existed back then is basically done with, slavery still happens but the difference between then and now is that people fight against it, they learn from history and seek to undo it's failings. We don't stop learning from the past.

You're essentially arguing against education here, Parm. It's just really tragic.

Tom4784 · 23-05-2021, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

Prince harry now hates the royal family....he was taught their history.

It breeds hatred, and that's the end off it..

Put me on your pathetic little list as well if you want.

Well, he has nothing to do slavery or the argument of teaching history, but I'll indulge you.

What do you honestly think caused Harry's resentment of the system? Learning about Henry's wives being offed or living through his mother dying because of the system? Knowing first hand at the failings within it and how it doesn't protect the people he loves?

Apply a bit of thought and the answer is quite clear.

As for your last insult, have we reached the point where you realise you're losing and so you just throw out insults instead?

parmnion · 23-05-2021, 04:41 PM

Nah..you ain't convinced me dezzy.

I still think it should be banned from teaching.

Tom4784 · 23-05-2021, 04:42 PM

Well, you're perfectly entitled to be wrong.

parmnion · 23-05-2021, 04:43 PM

Diana didnt die because of the system.
She died in a tunnel, miles and miles and miles away from her 2 precious boys, probably on the way to a shagging session with her fancy man.

Tom4784 · 23-05-2021, 04:44 PM

Cognitive dissonance in action.

parmnion · 23-05-2021, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

Well, you're perfectly entitled to be wrong.

I'm also entitled to believe I'm right, and to continue to believe so.

arista · 23-05-2021, 04:46 PM

Yes Dezzy,
the Full History must be taught.

Why is President Biden
not enforcing it?

Tom4784 · 23-05-2021, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

Yes Dezzy,
the Full History must be taught.

Why is President Biden
not enforcing it?

Probably because education curriculum is something that is typically handled by the state governments and not the federal one.

Marsh. · 23-05-2021, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

Because decades upon decades of teaching your countries history to kids has kept the history hatred alive to this day..

Would you like to back that up with some statistics and facts?

No. Because you can't.

arista · 23-05-2021, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

Probably because education curriculum is something that is typically handled by the state governments and not the federal one.

Yes they just
said on SkyNewsHD
in Texas, they are bringing Voter restrictions
Trump Won Texas, of course.

Tom4784 · 23-05-2021, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh.

Would you like to back that up with some statistics and facts?

No. Because you can't.

It's an example of someone holding their feelings higher than the facts. There are no facts that support the idea that teaching people about racism makes people racist. The fact that each generation marches towards progress is proof of the opposite in fact.

When you teach people the grim reality of history, they typically learn from it and have, so far, tried to do better given the progress of civil rights over the past few generations.

Tom4784 · 23-05-2021, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

Yes they just
said on SkyNewsHD
in Texas, they are bringing Voter restrictions
Trump Won Texas, of course.

The GQP doesn't like that they lost, so they're trying to implement voter suppression wherever they can, when less people vote, republicans tend to win.

parmnion · 23-05-2021, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh.

Would you like to back that up with some statistics and facts?

No. Because you can't.

I shall refer you to the year 2021 and why the world is still up in arms about who's jesus.

Marsh. · 23-05-2021, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

I shall refer you to the year 2021 and why the world is sti up in arms about who's jesus.

Trying to change your argument this late in the game won't work pal.

Tom4784 · 23-05-2021, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

I googled it.

And you are trying to make out I'm changing **** up to help my mental state.

Well, look at Diana, I'm fairly sure you've held her up as an argument for your beliefs in the past, and the moment I use her to argue against a point you've made. You shift gears and make out she died because she went to see her 'fancy man'.

Instead of admitting the failures of your argument, you twisted things around to support a failing argument. You held contrasting beliefs and you warped one to support the other.