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13-06-2021, 05:34 PM | #101 | |||
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So you’re not happy for players to protest against racism, but you’re perfectly happy for fans to boo when said players protest against racism, got it
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13-06-2021, 05:40 PM | #102 | |||
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im not happy for players to associate with a political organisation, i'm perfectly happy for them to protest against racism. That's the problem, people are so quick to shout racist, when the complaining has nothing whatsoever to do with that
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13-06-2021, 05:46 PM | #103 | |||
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If the left hadnt grabbed BLM by the nuts, like a rampant woman you would have named Rambo back in the day, grabbing her latest conquest at 12.30 am on a friday night.
Then I reckon things would have been fine, but he left politicalised it...so we are where we are |
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13-06-2021, 06:15 PM | #104 | |||
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13-06-2021, 06:54 PM | #105 | |||
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They should encourage fans to cheer wildly when they kneel .. that would at least drown out any boos.
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13-06-2021, 07:10 PM | #106 | |||
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What are the connections with the far left, just out of interest, and what aims of BLM do you object to?
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13-06-2021, 07:15 PM | #107 | |||
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I'm not a fan of BLM or any rioters, and I think kneeling on the ground makes them look daft and is performative rubbish
BUT it's not an argument worth having, even Piers Morgan supports the gesture... |
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13-06-2021, 07:54 PM | #108 | |||
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Despite fake BBC noises and hopefully the boos will get louder till this silly extreme left woke thing is over Last edited by LeatherTrumpet; 13-06-2021 at 07:55 PM. |
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13-06-2021, 09:27 PM | #109 | |||
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13-06-2021, 10:15 PM | #110 | |||
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14-06-2021, 04:15 AM | #111 | |||
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i don't know about boos or not but the crowd noise at that point was unnaturally loud for the small crowd in attendance
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14-06-2021, 07:15 AM | #112 | |||
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no, we should continue with this
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14-06-2021, 07:36 AM | #113 | |||
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…I don’t think they should encourage that because then that will become ‘the thing’ and a complete distraction, it’ll sadly be like a ‘game’ in itself of booing vs cheering which would be so wrong…the people who are making this gesture and taking the knee have repeatedly and repeatedly stressed that they are promoting equality and unity against racism and there is no political attachment to it…they’ve given their reasons for doing it …any ‘political’ is being attached with disregard of the intended meaning…
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14-06-2021, 07:42 AM | #114 | |||
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the one that completely stuck out was the overly loud crowd noise at the england game. The actual knee event, if it does happen, lasts about 2 seconds max, so any crowd reaction would typically be of a similar duration.
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14-06-2021, 07:48 AM | #115 | |||
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….well the reports seem to be that the support for the gesture was the thing much more overwhelmingly felt……
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14-06-2021, 04:10 PM | #116 | |||
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Nigel Farage has doubled down on his criticism of the England football team for its decision to continue to take the knee before matches, claiming politics should be kept out of football. Speaking during an interview with the newly-launched GB News channel on Sunday night, Farage insisted the taking the knee gesture is synonymous with the far-left Black Lives Matter political organisation. “You cannot separate taking the knee from the Black Lives Matter movement. It is an avowedly, openly Marxist organsiation that wants to defund the police and bring down the whole of Western civilisation,” Farage claimed. “Don’t take my word for it – just read the website! You can’t separate the two. And I think Gareth Southgate who I admire in so many ways, when he said this week: ‘We are about more than football’ – no, Mr Southgate, you are about football. https://foxhole.news/2021/06/14/fara...-organisation/ |
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14-06-2021, 04:14 PM | #117 | |||
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14-06-2021, 04:33 PM | #118 | |||
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Taking the knee started with Colin Kaepernick and he has nothing to do with the BLM ‘organisation’ it’s a physical symbol against racism, but people like Farage and his knuckle dragging, flag waving, bigoted moron fans, are frankly terrified of black people having more of a say in anything, so try and push this narrative that blm is trying to take over the world, it’s actually sickening
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14-06-2021, 04:49 PM | #119 | |||
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The English football team? are you sure? |
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14-06-2021, 04:52 PM | #120 | |||
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taking the knee at football matches started at the moment of the blm protests, check the time line. If it originated years back they would have done it years back
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14-06-2021, 04:55 PM | #121 | |||
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when the backlash came and it was established that the Floyd death was not anything to do with racism they all backtracked "no,er..its about racism, in general, we do it "(forgetting they have kick it out) its an embarrassing mess |
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14-06-2021, 04:59 PM | #122 | |||
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England captain Harry Kane openly linked taking the knee with BLM
Footage from December reveals that the captain of the England squad Harry Kane openly linked the controversial taking of the knee before football games with Black Lives Matter, despite insistence from the FA ahead of yesterday’s game against Croatia that “English football has made it very clear that it does not view this as being aligned to a political organisation or ideology.” The BBC reported the comments as Kane suggesting that “Premier League players should continue to take a knee before matches in support of the Black Lives Matter movement” and in the video Kane himself says: “I think we’re a huge platform to share our voices across the world, to be honest. “Obviously we’ve done a lot of stuff with the Black Lives Matter, taking the knee before the game, and I hear people talking about taking the knee and whether we should still be doing it and things like that, and for me I think we should.” https://foxhole.news/2021/06/14/engl...knee-with-blm/ the captain of England ladies and gentlmen |
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14-06-2021, 05:04 PM | #123 | |||
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Bigotry seeping out under the guise of being against black lives mattering. Just come out and say it, you don't have to hide behind some weird nonsense about Marxism (because we all know that some of the richest mid-20's dudes in the country would be avowed marxists).
Have the guts to say what you want to say. BLM is only a political group if you view equality as being a political issue. All this innuendo and pretense. Take a stand against woke cancel culture and tell us what you really think.
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14-06-2021, 05:11 PM | #124 | |||
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14-06-2021, 05:22 PM | #125 | |||
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First line of the BLM wiki page
"Black Lives Matter (BLM) is a decentralized political and social movement" preach that |
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