[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

no, there are many, many jewish people that are not religious at all, it's like calling me a christian cause i was baptised ... it has zero meaning and couldnt be further from reality

Oh I was just talking about the term Jewish is meant to mean a follower of Judaism, obviously some people once they get older aren't that religious.

Again as someone that's from a Christian family I have probably developed more into an Agnostic as I've got older.

Hitler though probably hated the fact that a lot of Jewish people are brown skinned which does ironically nuke Whoopi's statement of "it was a war between two white groups."

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Whether you think 'white privilege' exists or not , i've heard and seen some white people take advantage of the system, as they know they won't be treated the same way as a minority would especially in America.



In a ideal world they'd be no racism or people's skin colour mentioned in a negative way. But it happens all the time. Just like stereotyping and racial profiling keeps happening aswell.

As for Whoopi's comments about Polanski & Cosby i have no idea where she's coming from. i can't defend that as we all know they were both guilty.

But i know there's alot of hypocrisy especially in hollywood , as everyone knew Polanski was a creep yet they celebrated him not long ago at an award show.

And there's people who either don't want to believe Cosby is answerable either because they're in denial due to growing up watching him, or because of that awful mess of a court case .

America is too obsessed with race imo, they'll never get anywhere with that attitude, I mean what Trump has said about the Mexicans in the past is nothing short of disgraceful, let alone the Police and the George Floyd case.

I just personally would like a little bit of the white privilege that the Internet speaks of so much. I mean my life doesn't suck by any means, but I wouldn't get away with causing an insurrection like a certain Mr. Trump.

My point being that the only privilege that exists in this world is if you're rich, the world doesn't care about you if you're a pesky middle class person or lower.

Didn't Cosby get let off on a technicality? Regardless he is as guilty as sin.

And Whoopi's "rape-rape" comment to do with Polanski is strange to say the least.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Hitler viewed the world as an arena for the permanent struggle between peoples. He
divided the world population into high and low races. The Germans belonged to the high
peoples and the Jews to the low ones. He also had specific notions about other peoples.
The Slavic people, for instance, were cast as inferior, predestined to be
dominated.Hitler felt that the German people could only be strong if they were 'pure'. As
a consequence, people with hereditary diseases were considered harmful. These
included people with physical or mental disabilities, as well as alcoholics and
'incorrigible' criminals. Once the Nazis had come to power, these ideas led to the forced
sterilisation and killing of human beings.



https://www.annefrank.org/en/anne-fr...ler-hate-jews/

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Livia

I get so tired of non-Jews telling us who we are "technically".

Jews consider themselves a race. Whoopi Goldberg is a racist.

I've checked the definition and it does seem like you and Oliver have a point.

I do apologize on screwing up my facts.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Oh I was just talking about the term Jewish is meant to mean a follower of Judaism, obviously some people once they get older aren't that religious.

Again as someone that's from a Christian family I have probably developed more into an Agnostic as I've got older.

Hitler though probably hated the fact that a lot of Jewish people are brown skinned which does ironically nuke Whoopi's statement of "it was a war between two white groups."

Like I said earlier Mock ,not sure if you saw my message.

I don't think Whoopi is antisemitic , I think she's just clumsily worded her point. I may be off base but I think the point was how humanity has been abusing & torturing eachother regardless of race,gender , sexuality & disability.

But we all know those groups of people have been persecuted and treated inhumanly . It's still happening around the world.


Whoopie has experienced prejudice herself, she probably wouldn't be where she is today if it wasn't for people like Sidney Poitier & Hattie McDaniel ( bear in mind these 2 actors were still treated like crap behind the scenes). But they paved the way for other black and diverse actors in the industry.

And Hitler's sadistic 'regime' was based entirely on people who looked different and who followed a different religion & culture, it was about both race & religion.

But it wasn't just Jewish people tortured and killed,but anyone who dared to challenge this and other minorities etc. The Nazis had it in for Jewish people,but they didn't care who they killed. That's how brutal it was.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Like I said earlier Mock ,not sure if you saw my message.

I don't think Whoopi is antisemitic , I think she's just clumsily worded her point. I may be off base but I think the point was how humanity has been abusing & torturing eachother regardless of race,gender , sexuality & disability.

But we all know those groups of people have been persecuted and treated inhumanly . It's still happening around the world.


Whoopie has experienced prejudice herself, she probably wouldn't be where she is today if it wasn't for people like Sidney Poitier & Hattie McDaniel ( bear in mind these 2 actors were still treated like crap behind the scenes). But they paved the way for other black and diverse actors in the industry.

And Hitler's sadistic 'regime' was based entirely on people who looked different and who followed a different religion & culture, it was about both race & religion.

But it wasn't just Jewish people tortured and killed,but anyone who dared to challenge this and other minorities etc. The Nazis had it in for Jewish people,but they didn't care who they killed. That's how brutal it was.

they did care who they killed

they meticulously killed people based on racial purity

to say they killed without care is nonsense

it was planned and efficient

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Like I said earlier Mock ,not sure if you saw my message.

I don't think Whoopi is antisemitic , I think she's just clumsily worded her point. I may be off base but I think the point was how humanity has been abusing & torturing eachother regardless of race,gender , sexuality & disability.

But we all know those groups of people have been persecuted and treated inhumanly . It's still happening around the world.


Whoopie has experienced prejudice herself, she probably wouldn't be where she is today if it wasn't for people like Sidney Poitier & Hattie McDaniel ( bear in mind these 2 actors were still treated like crap behind the scenes). But they paved the way for other black and diverse actors in the industry.

And Hitler's sadistic 'regime' was based entirely on people who looked different and who followed a different religion & culture, it was about both race & religion.

But it wasn't just Jewish people tortured and killed,but anyone who dared to challenge this and other minorities etc. The Nazis had it in for Jewish people,but they didn't care who they killed. That's how brutal it was.

Hello Goldheart, and yes I did read your earlier post which made some fair points.

And again I agree with a lot of your points in this post.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

they did care who they killed

they meticulously killed people based on racial purity

to say they killed without care is nonsense

it was planned and efficient

I think she meant that Hitler didn't care who he killed as long as they were different to himself.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

they did care who they killed

they meticulously killed people based on racial purity

to say they killed without care is nonsense

it was planned and efficient

Did you actually pay attention to what I said.

Everyone knows their main target was Jewish people,but they tortured other types of people who they saw as 'inferior' or who didn't agree with them.

The Nazis were evil , zero compassion.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Youtube video

[glib]

The everyday American seems to have very little knowledge on history, including Whoopi Goldberg

All they seem to be know is that ‘the US won WW2’
They couldn’t even place Germany on a map if it came to it

It’s sad, not sure what is wrong with their education system

They even elected Trump on his Mexican wall promise in 2016, were they all uninformed about the disaster of the Berlin Wall?

[glib]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Did you actually pay attention to what I said.

Everyone knows their main target was Jewish people,but they tortured other types of people who they saw as 'inferior' or who didn't agree with them.

The Nazis were evil , zero compassion.

Don’t sugar coat it, mass murdered

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Did you actually pay attention to what I said.

Everyone knows their main target was Jewish people,but they tortured other types of people who they saw as 'inferior' or who didn't agree with them.

The Nazis were evil , zero compassion.

as i said

they did care who they killed

they meticulously killed people based on racial purity

to say they killed without care is nonsense

it was planned and efficient

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by glib

Don’t sugar coat it, mass murdered

I didn't "sugar coat" anything . We know it was mass murder.

We all know the horrific atrocities Hitler & the Nazis caused. Nobody can or should ever downplay that .

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I think she meant that Hitler didn't care who he killed as long as they were different to himself.

Exactly !

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I think she meant that Hitler didn't care who he killed as long as they were different to himself.

again totally incorrect