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Not-really - she did rub-hands with Mandela and in any case is a legend to be revered | 2 | 25.00% | ||||
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She did enable lots-of colonial disruption - I understand the mixed feelings | 2 | 25.00% | ||||
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^ but in appropriate moderation (someone’s death is nothing to celebrate) | 2 | 25.00% | ||||
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12-09-2022, 10:09 AM | #51 | |||
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lets be in no doubt, if the queen had her way we would all still be stuck in the 1950's. She resisted change and progress at every opportunity
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12-09-2022, 10:17 AM | #52 | |||
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POW! BLAM!
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What kind of thing did she resist?
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12-09-2022, 10:26 AM | #53 | |||
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literally everything. She didn't even champion her own sisters wish to marry a divorced man, telling her that if she went ahead she would be cut off financially and thrown out of the family. She refused to acknowledge that Diana's death had any importance and stopped any form of official recognition until she was told that if she didn't change course the monarchy was over.
The royal family have been unpleasant from my earliest recollections, i don't know how else to put it, she insisted on sticking to protocols born in the 50's or earlier until she was told if she didnt budge she would be out |
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12-09-2022, 10:36 AM | #54 | |||
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POW! BLAM!
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12-09-2022, 10:36 AM | #55 | |||
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All hail the Moyesiah
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Its a very difficult balancing act. On the one hand there does need to be an element of modernisation but a monarchy by its very nature is a traditionalist institution and many people would say that the traditions are vital its longevity and stability over so many years |
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12-09-2022, 10:42 AM | #56 | |||
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12-09-2022, 10:45 AM | #57 | |||
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All hail the Moyesiah
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They weren't royals though, there was specific legislation covering members of the Royal family. It was one of the hypocritical things about that cabinet, half of them were divorced yet were dead against the Queen's sister marrying a divorcee
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12-09-2022, 10:46 AM | #58 | |||
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All hail the Moyesiah
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My main source is the Crown lol, which might not be strictly accurate but it does go into a lot of detail on the problems with Margaret's attempted marriage
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12-09-2022, 10:47 AM | #59 | |||
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there was the royal marriages act where anyone under 25 was required to seek the queens approval to marry. The queen refused her sister, she also refused Prince Andrews marriage to Koo Stark and Charles attempt to marry Camilla at the time
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12-09-2022, 10:55 AM | #60 | |||
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I Love my brick
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Imagine if this had been allowed originally? How different things would have turned out
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12-09-2022, 11:30 AM | #61 | ||
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The facts are people don’t know what they are talking about The queen represents the country she does rule the country People vote in governments and it’s those governments that rule this country |
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12-09-2022, 11:35 AM | #62 | |||
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I Love my brick
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You got that right...
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12-09-2022, 11:46 AM | #63 | ||
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12-09-2022, 11:47 AM | #64 | |||
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I Love my brick
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12-09-2022, 11:50 AM | #65 | |||
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You know my methods
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The British Empre did many good things miles ahead of others
Like abolish Slavery in 1807 Or stopping the practice of Suttee in India 2 name but 2 |
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12-09-2022, 12:30 PM | #66 | ||
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If you look at the crowds that will be out to show their respect on the day of her funeral, you will see people from all walks of life and ethnicity come together.
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12-09-2022, 01:07 PM | #67 | |||
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POW! BLAM!
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Because most people aren't psychopaths who delight in the deaths of others.
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12-09-2022, 01:12 PM | #68 | |||
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Oh no, I'm English
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12-09-2022, 02:00 PM | #69 | |||
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Oh no, I'm English
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12-09-2022, 02:07 PM | #70 | |||
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Oh no, I'm English
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12-09-2022, 02:11 PM | #71 | |||
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woo that's pretty bad, for just holding up a sign?
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12-09-2022, 02:13 PM | #72 | |||
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i wonder what they are being charged with
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12-09-2022, 02:14 PM | #73 | |||
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Oh no, I'm English
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12-09-2022, 02:14 PM | #74 | |||
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I Love my brick
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12-09-2022, 02:15 PM | #75 | |||
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Oh no, I'm English
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