[arista]

90mins Documentary
This Tuesday

She is now aged 23.


Taken from the Podcast series.


Journalist Josh Baker
asks her questions.

http://www.joshwbaker.com/

He is a good, hardworking Journalist.

[LeatherTrumpet]

f off bbc making a a prog on this vile terrorist

dont pay your license fee

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

f off bbc making a prog on this vile terrorist

dont pay your license fee

I am recording it
as she admits she was Guilty of joining Isis


Josh worked hard to get what people wanted to know.

Also, are the Labour Party
are they the same at keeping her out?

[arista]

The Magazine from Yesterday's Saturday Times

[Alf]

Should we campaign to bring home Andrew Tate?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Alf

Should we campaign to bring home Andrew Tate?

He Prefers USA

[Alf]

Originally Posted by arista

He Prefers USA

He doesn't, he see's himself more as UK. He told Piers Morgan that. He lived most his life in England.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Alf

He doesn't, he see's himself more as UK. He told Piers Morgan that. He lived most his life in England.

That was his happy past

I watched that Interview
before he went back to get arrested
but not Charged?

[arista]

This has 2nd showing, this Friday Night
12:55AM BBC2HD


[The BBC said the podcast
is not an opportunity for Begum to tell
her story unchallenged but is a
'robust public interest investigation']


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...cumentary.html

[Redway]

I really don’t know what to think about Shamima after watching that documentary. She’s a very strange character.

[Redway]

I don’t think Huda Mukbil really knows what dissociation means.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Redway

I really don’t know what to think about Shamima after watching that documentary. She’s a very strange character.

What did she say in the documentary?, was there any point to the programme ?.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

What did she say in the documentary?, was there any point to the programme ?.

I saw a few seconds online where she was seemingly blaming all the hatred towards her on the MEDIA


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[arista]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I saw a few seconds online where she was seemingly blaming all the hatred towards her on the MEDIA

Thats not enough
this is 90mins


I missed recording this.

So I am now recording the 2nd showing Friday late night
I find it much easy to play using my sky remote control
and not going onto iPlayer

[bitontheslide]

i refuse to watch it

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i refuse to watch it

Thats fair enough.

[LeatherTrumpet]

the BBC desperate to portray this lowlife as a victim

[Redway]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

What did she say in the documentary?, was there any point to the programme ?.

There are definitely worse ways to pass a Wednesday evening so I enjoyed watching it but at the end of the day Shamima knows what she did. She basically got caught up with the wrong crowd (all three girls, mind, were seemingly just normal, even good/intelligent, students until they got ISIS-indoctrinated) and ended up making the biggest mistake of her life by going over to Syria as a 15-year-old, getting married to an older guy and losing two (or three; I can’t even remember how many times she said she got pregnant while she was with him) of her kids. I do sympathise with her but it is kind of hard to believe that she seriously had no idea what ISIS was truly about when she first signed up and wasn’t able to take any cue whatsoever from the news/media about the dangers of it just because she was a teenager. But at the end of the day none of us really know her so it’s hard to say. I just know that I wouldn’t like to have been her during those years.

[Redway]

One thing about Shamima that’s definitely kept is her social awkwardness. She didn’t seem like she could even get a sentence out without stuttering but nonetheless she’s obviously quite intelligent and articulate besides that. Not really trying to offer her any other praise after what she did but it’s safe to say she’s glown up a bit and she isn’t exactly stupid (which is why she should’ve known better).

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Redway

One thing about Shamima that’s definitely kept is her social awkwardness. She didn’t seem like she could even get a sentence out without stuttering but nonetheless she’s obviously quite intelligent and articulate besides that. Not really trying to offer her any other praise after what she did but it’s safe to say she’s glown up a bit and she isn’t exactly stupid (which is why she should’ve known better).

Not praise but facts are she was groomed and radicalised online as a 15 year old, I don't believe at that age she could possibly have a real understanding of what she was doing/taking on

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Redway

There are definitely worse ways to pass a Wednesday evening so I enjoyed watching it but at the end of the day Shamima knows what she did. She basically got caught up with the wrong crowd (all three girls, mind, were seemingly just normal, even good/intelligent, students until they got ISIS-indoctrinated) and ended up making the biggest mistake of her life by going over to Syria as a 15-year-old, getting married to an older guy and losing two (or three; I can’t even remember how many times she said she got pregnant while she was with him) of her kids. I do sympathise with her but it is kind of hard to believe that she seriously had no idea what ISIS was truly about when she first signed up and wasn’t able to take any cue whatsoever from the news/media about the dangers of it just because she was a teenager. But at the end of the day none of us really know her so it’s hard to say. I just know that I wouldn’t like to have been her during those years.

I believe the whole thing has effed her head up , but I agree that she was radicalised & brainwashed...but she still must have known this was wrong or atleast dangerous on some level. She was 15 not 9 so yeah .

Especially when isis was all over the news at the time aswell.

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i refuse to watch it

Same i don't agree with the programme being made .

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Not praise but facts are she was groomed and radicalised online as a 15 year old, I don't believe at that age she could possibly have a real understanding of what she was doing/taking on

I agree.

You wouldnt punish a 15yr old who ran away to meet the person who groomed them online.

Shes probably been punished enough and should be brought home imo.

[bitontheslide]

a 15 year old is perfectly capable of making their own mind up, planning a trip, and covering their tracks. I don't believe the .... she was groomed story ... for a moment

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

a 15 year old is perfectly capable of making their own mind up, planning a trip, and covering their tracks. I don't believe the .... she was groomed story ... for a moment

She’s apparently very intelligent so I’m wondering if she’d heard all the rumours and stories about what happens to young girls joining ISIS but decided to ignore or discard them ..


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