[DemRed]

Originally Posted by arista

Conservative came 3rd


Better than sad LibDems
below the Disgraced Labour fella Ali


George Galloway (WPB) 12,335
David Tully (Indy) 6,638
Paul Ellison (Conservative) 3,731
Azhar Ali (Disgraced Labour) 2,402
Iain Donaldson (LibDem) 2,164
Simon Danczuk (Reform)1,968

Interesting that they had the opportunity to vote Reform but didn't.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by DemRed

Interesting that they had the opportunity to vote Reform but didn't.

Could their performance be anything to do with the fact he's an ex Labour MP who was disgraced for sexting a 17 year old? Baffling candidacy tbh

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Could their performance be anything to do with the fact he's an ex Labour MP who was disgraced for sexting a 17 year old? Baffling candidacy tbh

Jeez, so that's three candidates who've disgraced themselves? Labour+Green and Reform?

Rochdale politicians are effed up...

[arista]

[arista]

Conservative Sir Peter Bottomley & Corbyn
will escort George Galloway
to his Parliament seat today

David Davis MP
has pulled out.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...n-Commons.html

[Oliver_W]

I've been thinking about certain politicians' response to this result, and I think it borders on contemptuous for the Rochdale electorate.

It's all very well wondering what it might mean for their party, if it might be extrapolatable to the upcoming general election. It's also understandable to talk about how to might reflect on feelings of antisemitism.

But to outright call it alarming, and to suggest Galloway shouldn't even be an MP? He won by quite a margin, so that's potentially a lot of people they're pissing off.

Even if it was a vote to "keep the others out", it's still people's democratic voices they're shouting over.

[arista]

Yes around 2:30PM

TV news will show him taking his seat.

It is all Legit

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I've been thinking about certain politicians' response to this result, and I think it borders on contemptuous for the Rochdale electorate.

It's all very well wondering what it might mean for their party, if it might be extrapolatable to the upcoming general election. It's also understandable to talk about how to might reflect on feelings of antisemitism.

But to outright call it alarming, and to suggest Galloway shouldn't even be an MP? He won by quite a margin, so that's potentially a lot of people they're pissing off.

Even if it was a vote to "keep the others out", it's still people's democratic voices they're shouting over.

I'm inclined to agree, full democracy either works or it doesn't. I'm happy for people to explore the idea that it simply doesn't and maybe there are actually better options - for example, I'm low key an advocate for semi-meritocracy where there are criteria that need to be met in order to run at all (so long as that criteria allows for a diverse range of candidates) - however when we have the system we have, coming along and saying "Yes we say you can vote but listen... you did the voting WRONG!!" is a complete farce.

[arista]

George has now been Sworn in.

He has no hat on, for a change.


Not Corbyn
it was an Alba Party member with him.

[arista]

Now was Live Outside Parliament.


SkyNewsHD
BBCnewsHD

A long talk to all the press


But TV news left him.

[Gusto Brunt]

He always said he wore a hat to cover up huge scars on his head.

Unless he had make up on his head (no hat allowed today), I didn't see any scars.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I'm inclined to agree, full democracy either works or it doesn't. I'm happy for people to explore the idea that it simply doesn't and maybe there are actually better options - for example, I'm low key an advocate for semi-meritocracy where there are criteria that need to be met in order to run at all (so long as that criteria allows for a diverse range of candidates) - however when we have the system we have, coming along and saying "Yes we say you can vote but listen... you did the voting WRONG!!" is a complete farce.

…but also, surely it’s a mess/UK politics in general when ‘full democracy’ is being questioned as under threat etc…by a PM who wasn’t democratically elected…

[arista]

In the General Election
George may take Angela Raynor's seat
with one of his team.

That will be so funny

[Gusto Brunt]

Originally Posted by arista

In the General Election
George may take Angela Raynor's seat
with one of his team.

That will be so funny

[joeysteele]

The election when it comes was going to be bad enough with Labour and the Cons stirring divisions in constituencies.
Plus lies at each other.

Now with this vile Galloway whipping up hatred and division.
This election is probably going to be a very dangerous and frightening one for MPs of all Parties and their campaign teams .
Galloway is the most despicable of the low.
A living nightmare to politics.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

The election when it comes was going to be bad enough with Labour and the Cons stirring divisions in constituencies.
Plus lies at each other.

Now with this vile Galloway whipping up hatred and division.
This election is probably going to be a very dangerous and frightening one for MPs of all Parties and their campaign teams .
Galloway is the most despicable of the low.
A living nightmare to politics.

Sure Joey

But On Weds PMQ's George gets a Question


And Attacking Labour seats with other members of his team
Is Legit.

[bitontheslide]

The real issue with the byelection was that the major parties were in an awful state with their local candidates being unelectable. To then say that democracy had failed is a bit of a stretch to say the least

The moral of the story is that they all need to put forward better candidates

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

The real issue with the byelection was that the major parties were in an awful state with their local candidates being unelectable. To then say that democracy had failed is a bit of a stretch to say the least

The moral of the story is that they all need to put forward better candidates

Yes Starmers Crew Failed

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

The real issue with the byelection was that the major parties were in an awful state with their local candidates being unelectable. To then say that democracy had failed is a bit of a stretch to say the least

The moral of the story is that they all need to put forward better candidates

To be fair, I doubt that a lot of the people who voted for Galloway would have been deterred by what Azhar Ali said. His words were the usual guff you could hear on recent Saturdays in London, or on Twitter.

They were probably more put off by his "apology" than anything else.

[arista]

He was Live on Parliament Channel

Not many in there

He is Having good Go at the Councils



He stated he would use his boots
to give them (Labour and Conservative) a big kicking

[arista]

The Full 8mins speech
ignore the short BBC

Click the below that link