[arista]

This does not make sense.





[Graham Thorpe took his own life after
several years battling anxiety
and depression - believing his wife
and children were
'better off without him',
his bereft family revealed today.

The left-handed Surrey batsman,
a talisman for England and hero
for many who grew up watching cricket
in the 1990s, died aged just 55.

Mr Thorpe, a father-of-four,
was seriously ill in hospital
in May 2022 after trying to kill himself.
He made a recovery but took
his own life on Sunday.]


[Mrs Thorpe said today: 'Despite having a wife
and two daughters whom he loved and
who loved him, he did not get better.
He was so unwell in recent times
and he really did believe that
we would be better off without him
and we are devastated that he acted
on that and took his own life'.]



Was it a Money thing
that his wife and kids are better off
with him gone?



Better days 2007
[Graham would find love again
with his second wife Amanda.
Pictured here with their daughters
Kitty and Emma.

Thorpe is survived by her and his four children]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...e-reveals.html

[Ammi]

…depression/severe anxiety isn’t something that makes sense any more than other illnesses…some reports are saying that he suffered depression/anxiety for a few years and some are saying many years…but for however long, he obviously felt overwhelmed to the point of taking his own life…it’s very, very sad…

[AnnieK]

He made an attempt on his life back in 2022 apparently too.

His depression was obviously terrible and he saw no other way out.

Dreadfully sad - his poor family

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…depression/severe anxiety isn’t something that makes sense any more than other illnesses…some reports are saying that he suffered depression/anxiety for a few years and some are saying many years…but for however long, he obviously felt overwhelmed to the point of taking his own life…it’s very, very sad…

I have fought against those very things since I was a teenager .. thankfully despite having many dark thoughts over the decades.. I never acted on them and they passed relatively fast .

Its so difficult to avoid feeling like this and real sad thing is that you get used to the dark times and they become the norm .


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[Livia]

Genuinely sorry to hear that @Zizu.

I feel so sorry for Graham Thorpe, a big, strong man struggling with this dreadful disease. How awful for him to see no other way out. And how awful for his family.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I have fought against those very things since I was a teenager .. thankfully despite having many dark thoughts over the decades.. I never acted on them and they passed relatively fast .

Its so difficult to avoid feeling like this and real sad thing is that you get used to the dark times and they become the norm .


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…I’m so sorry what your own experience has been in terms of darker times but I’m glad that you’ve felt those times to have felt brief and you’ve experienced a balance of brightness again….…I think thats one of the things as well, when those times don’t feel ‘relatively fast’ and when someone feels as though they’re sinking and sinking and aren’t able to grip onto anything…and as you say, for some those feelings are difficult/impossible to avoid…and sadly, any type of coping skills are difficult/impossible to see or feel in those times as well…

[MTVN]

How awful, I had thought he fell ill of natural causes a couple of years ago and his death would be linked to that but it turns out that severe depression just had a hold on him that whole time

Cricket can be a very difficult sport I think with the long tours away and the hyper focus on individuals. Only good news is a lot more players are talking about it these days

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Livia

Genuinely sorry to hear that @Zizu.

I feel so sorry for Graham Thorpe, a big, strong man struggling with this dreadful disease. How awful for him to see no other way out. And how awful for his family.

Hugz


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I’m so sorry what your own experience has been in terms of darker times but I’m glad that you’ve felt those times to have felt brief and you’ve experienced a balance of brightness again….…I think thats one of the things as well, when those times don’t feel ‘relatively fast’ and when someone feels as though they’re sinking and sinking and aren’t able to grip onto anything…and as you say, for some those feelings are difficult/impossible to avoid…and sadly, any type of coping skills are difficult/impossible to see or feel in those times as well…

Hugz


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[arista]

Sky News Text :
[Metro reports on an inquest hearing
how England cricket legend Graham Thorpe
asked his wife to help him end his life as he
struggled with his mental health.

The 55-year-old died on the morning of
4 August, 2024
. His widow Amanda Thorpe later said
he had taken his own life.]

[Mystic Mock]

It's such a sad situation tbh.

I don't know what else to say without taking the thread off-topic and getting possibly controversial.

But I do hope that his family have been able to cope over the last year.

[Zizu]

He suffered anxiety and depression after losing his position as a TV pundit … sadly we may see more of this in the future as our experienced football pundits are steadily being replaced by unqualified/ inexperienced/ incompetent ( in some instances) female pundits/ co-commentators !


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[Redway]

Originally Posted by Zizu

He suffered anxiety and depression after losing his position as a TV pundit … sadly we may see more of this in the future as our experienced football pundits are steadily being replaced by unqualified/ inexperienced/ incompetent ( in some instances) female pundits/ co-commentators !


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That was a short break.

Still not sure what female commentary has to do with someone committing suicide. We were hoping you’d come back less misogynistic, but I guess there’s no changing some people.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Redway

That was a short break.

Still not sure what female commentary has to do with someone committing suicide. We were hoping you’d come back less misogynistic, but I guess there’s no changing some people.

Fear not … I am not staying

Just dipping my feet as this story angers me

Re read my post a few times to get clarification .. apologies if English isn’t your first language .

Tell you what … I will try again


He fell into a deep depression after losing his job as a tv pundit …

Currently scores of ex male players are being sacked / replaced/ marginalised due to the constant box ticking where they are using the same useless female pundits to work on the men’s football matches .. they also work on the females games as well though it only works one way as they rarely feature a male expert on women’s football

We have already lost guys like Graeme Souness , Matt le Tiss , Phil Thompson .. with Roy Keane apparently quitting soon



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[Redway]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Fear not … I am not staying

Just dipping my feet as this story angers me

Re read my post a few times to get clarification .. apologies if English isn’t your first language .

Tell you what … I will try again


He fell into a deep depression after losing his job as a tv pundit …

Currently scores of ex male players are being sacked / replaced/ marginalised due to the constant box ticking where they are using the same useless female pundits to work on the men’s football matches .. they also work on the females games as well though it only works one way as they rarely feature a male expert on women’s football

We have already lost guys like Graeme Souness , Matt le Tiss , Phil Thompson .. with Roy Keane apparently quitting soon



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Back to clueless gaslighting again, are we?

It’s more honourable to just say you don’t like women you’re not attracted, related or married to than to pin a guy’s suicide on female sports commentators (even when you think you’re being indirect and subtle about that allusion).

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Fear not … I am not staying

Just dipping my feet as this story angers me

Re read my post a few times to get clarification .. apologies if English isn’t your first language .

Tell you what … I will try again


He fell into a deep depression after losing his job as a tv pundit …

Currently scores of ex male players are being sacked / replaced/ marginalised due to the constant box ticking where they are using the same useless female pundits to work on the men’s football matches .. they also work on the females games as well though it only works one way as they rarely feature a male expert on women’s football

We have already lost guys like Graeme Souness , Matt le Tiss , Phil Thompson .. with Roy Keane apparently quitting soon



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He lost his job because the got drunk and a video leaked.....nothing to do with women though.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

He lost his job because the got drunk and a video leaked.....nothing to do with women though.

Careful. He’ll accuse you of being an illiterate fool next.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

He lost his job because the got drunk and a video leaked.....nothing to do with women though.

Fact is .. he lost his job as a pundit … which ultimately led to his suicide

That very thing is happening now , more and more frequently .. due to the proliferation of female ‘cough’ experts taking more and more of the available jobs


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[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Fact is .. he lost his job as a pundit ..

That very thing is happening now , more and more frequently .. due to the proliferation of female ‘cough’ experts taking more and more of the available jobs

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You are entitled to your opinion on it Zizu. I just dont think a thread about a man taking his own life is the place to use it as a platform to complain about women in sport commentaray/punditry especially when he lost his job through his own actions. It has absolutely no bearing on why Graham Thorpe took his life.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

You are entitled to your opinion on it Zizu. I just dont think a thread about a man taking his own life is the place to use it as a platform to complain about women in sport commentaray/punditry especially when he lost his job through his own actions. It has absolutely no bearing on why Graham Thorpe took his life.

He has no filter, no boundaries, no respect for the dead, and rarely is he ever forced to take accountability. Because he’s a ‘fragile, vulnerable adult’.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

You are entitled to your opinion on it Zizu. I just dont think a thread about a man taking his own life is the place to use it as a platform to complain about women in sport commentaray/punditry especially when he lost his job through his own actions. It has absolutely no bearing on why Graham Thorpe took his life.

Well it could have a serious effect on many of the guys being unfairly displaced by women

Thorpe fell into a deep depression immediately after losing his pundit’s role


Suicide in sportsmen is rife and rising

Surely that’s a concern ?


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[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Well it could have a serious effect on many of the guys being unfairly displaced by women

Thorpe fell into a deep depression immediately after losing his pundit’s role


Suicide in sportsmen is rife and rising

Surely that’s a concern ?


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Suicide in all walks of life is increasing.

This thread is specifically about Graham Thorpe though and he had his own demons that he was dealing with. Blaming women in this thread just seems a little distasteful to me.

As I said you are entitled to your opinion but Graham Thorpes death whilst contributed to losing his job also was directly affected by Civid lockdowns as his wife has said. None of which had anything to do with women.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Suicide in all walks of life is increasing.

This thread is specifically about Graham Thorpe though and he had his own demons that he was dealing with. Blaming women in this thread just seems a little distasteful to me.

As I said you are entitled to your opinion but Graham Thorpes death whilst contributed to losing his job also was directly affected by Civid lockdowns as his wife has said. None of which had anything to do with women.

Apologies for derailing the thread ..

I do not know why you insist on being so obtuse …

I have explained my reasoning two or three times ….


Anyways I’m done now for a while ... I’ve had my ‘forum fix ..

Adios ..


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[Redway]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Apologies for derailing the thread ..

I do not know why you insist on being so obtuse …

I have explained my reasoning two or three times ….


Anyways I’m done now for a while ... I’ve had my ‘forum fix ..

Adios ..


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Ah, there it is again. “Obtuse.” Your go-to buzz-word whenever anyone disagrees with you or calls out your sexism.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Apologies for derailing the thread ..

I do not know why you insist on being so obtuse …

I have explained my reasoning two or three times ….


Anyways I’m done now for a while ... I’ve had my ‘forum fix ..

Adios ..


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That's quite rude Zizu. I said you are quite entitled to your opinion but this is not the thread and you call me obtuse?

Adios