[Redway]

Have you?

[Crimson Dynamo]

no

[Zizu]

Many …

[Kate!]

Yes several, quite severe ones. Not for years though cos I'm on medication.

[MTVN]

I've had two in my life, both quite a while ago now. Had no idea what was happening first time because it came out of nowhere, thought I was having a heart attack. Second time was a couple years later in the middle of the night, I felt pretty disoriented most of the next day from it

[user104658]

Not LT pretending that he's never lost his temper.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Quantum Bauble

Not LT pretending that he's never lost his temper.

What do you mean? A panic attack is in no way akin to losing your temper.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Quantum Bauble

Not LT pretending that he's never lost his temper.

SB admitting panic attacks don't exist

You

Could

Not

Make

It

Up

😂

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Christmas Dynamo

SB admitting panic attacks don't exist

You

Could

Not

Make

It

Up

😂

Only someone who's never had one can possibly say they don't exist. They do and it's very frightening especially the first time you ever have one.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Holly Christmas

Only someone who's never had one can possibly say they don't exist. They do and it's very frightening especially the first time you ever have one.

Blame SB equating them to being mildly annoyed

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Christmas Dynamo

Blame SB equating them to being mildly annoyed

Yes. Tut.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Christmas Dynamo

Blame SB equating them to being mildly annoyed

I didn't equate them to a panic attack; I was referring to the fact that you should have picked option 3, unless you're claiming that you've never lost your cool and kicked off, and you don't strike me as "zen" champ

"experienced certain paroxysms in anxiety that almost came close"

Is the answer anyone who has ever properly lost their temper even in their younger years should choose. Which is almost everyone.

Rage is an anxiety mask. Fully losing one's temper is a panic response.

You'll have better interpersonal relationships if you can get your head around that .

[Barry.]

The bus man had to get my dad because I had one on the bus, wasn’t good

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by The Grinch

The bus man had to get my dad because I had one on the bus, wasn’t good

I had one on a bus, had to get off. Everything was closing in on me.

[Barry.]

Originally Posted by Holly Christmas

I had one on a bus, had to get off. Everything was closing in on me.

Yeah, my dad came and took me home I was lucky there was only a few on the bus at that point

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by The Grinch

Yeah, my dad came and took me home I was lucky there was only a few on the bus at that point

Awful isn't it?

First time I ever had one was when I was about to go to sleep and my head started to feel funny and woozy. Then I couldn't breathe. Was hyperventilating. Went to A and E cos I thought something was seriously wrong and they said I'd had a panic attack. After that they got frequent.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by The Grinch

The bus man had to get my dad because I had one on the bus, wasn’t good

I had one on the bus and ended up being carted off to hospital in an ambulance. Only to wait 2 hours in the waiting room just to be told what I already knew.

A kindly woman on the bus gave me water while I was waiting. I did appreciate that.

[LaLaLand]

I have panic disorder so sadly have them more than once weekly. Have done for over 15 years and each one is still as terrifying as the first.

I’m much better now in terms of frequency though, there was a period of time when I was in my early 20’s that I would have them on repeat for hours and hours for days on end and was genuinely house bound. Sadly though I seem to be having a resurgence with them for various reasons, it happens. Hopefully they die down in time for me to have an enjoyable Christmas.

You just lose all rationality and think you’re going to die. Wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by FaLaLaLand

I have panic disorder so sadly have them more than once weekly. Have done for over 15 years and each one is still as terrifying as the first.

I’m much better now in terms of frequency though, there was a period of time when I was in my early 20’s that I would have them on repeat for hours and hours for days on end and was genuinely house bound. Sadly though I seem to be having a resurgence with them for various reasons, it happens. Hopefully they die down in time for me to have an enjoyable Christmas.

You just lose all rationality and think you’re going to die. Wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy.

An excellent Summation. Spot on.

[Kate!]

I had one in a crowded shop, and again my head went all fuzzy and my breathing was erratic. I rushed out and left my shopping.

[bots]

I had a panic attack that recurred for 4 or 5 days in a row. It really f'd me up at the time

[user104658]

I guess, to use a "simpler brain" example - dogs are not capable of feeling anger. Anger is a complex social emotion that dogs just don't have. However a dog can clearly be aggressive. Any dog trainer will tell you, an aggressive/reactive dog is an anxious dog... it's not an angry dog.

I think that is on a basic level, the same mechanism in all mammals.

[MTVN]

I think anxiety can manifest itself as anger but that doesn't mean anger is always the product of anxiety. Anger is a legitimate emotion in its own right which can sometimes be valid and sometimes be a problem. There are time when anger can actually do a lot of good. When it becomes a problem I think there can be many reasons for that and only some of them will be driven by anxiety

[user104658]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I think anxiety can manifest itself as anger but that doesn't mean anger is always the product of anxiety. Anger is a legitimate emotion in its own right which can sometimes be valid and sometimes be a problem. There are time when anger can actually do a lot of good. When it becomes a problem I think there can be many reasons for that and only some of them will be driven by anxiety

Yes but there's a difference between healthy situational anger and outbursts of rage; that's what I mean in the dog example. Dogs are not capable of the complex human experience that you're talking about here as anger. I'd also argue that the type of anger you're talking about is not one emotion but a confluence of several possible emotions; frustration, pride, protectiveness etc.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Quantum Bauble

Yes but there's a difference between healthy situational anger and outbursts of rage; that's what I mean in the dog example. Dogs are not capable of the complex human experience that you're talking about here as anger. I'd also argue that the type of anger you're talking about is not one emotion but a confluence of several possible emotions; frustration, pride, protectiveness etc.

But isn't anxiety just one of these emotions too that contributes to anger?