[vesavius]

Everything he says is measured, contrived and put on for the watcher...

This whole 'normal boring nice guy' thing is put out to play you.. You can see that, right?


"I have to tell you that I am not very good at being bad.." yeah yeah, fgs, we hear you Richard, stop pushing that so hard. We get it, you want us to think that you are above this and you are dull.

[Shaun]

have you ever stopped to consider that you might just be a hater

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Shaun

have you ever stopped to consider that you might just be a hater

oh no.. a hAtEr! Say it ain't so!

Get back to 2016

[millyrose]

I really like Richard and hope he wins

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by millyrose

I really like Richard and hope he wins

what am empty meaningless reply this is though

[Ray.]

Originally Posted by vesavius

what am empty meaningless reply this is though

Mate, most of what you make threads out of has usually already been said in the live threads. You just do it more long-windedly.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Ray.

Mate, most of what you make threads out of has usually already been said in the live threads. You just do it more long-windedly.

Ray, mate, I don't follow the live thread.

I am sorry if I haven't read every thread before posting my thoughts, feel free to just not click on them. I don't mind at all. No need to make continuous comments on threads that I make if they bother you.

If people don't care about what is posted it will sink and that's ok. I am not sure we need your policing of things, tbh

Imagine thinking my posts are 'long winded' though

[Ray.]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Ray, mate, I don't follow the live thread.

I am sorry if I haven't read every thread before posting my thoughts, feel free to just not click on them. I don't mind at all. No need to make continuous comments on threads that I make if they bother you.

If people don't care about what is posted it will sink and that's ok. I am not sure we need your policing of things. But, thanks anyhow.

Imagine thinking my posts are 'long winded though'

The only reason I bring it up is that I just thought it was funny that you choose to be needlessly demeaning to someone else and call their post meaningless and empty when usually your thoughts themselves have already been expressed more succinctly in the live threads. In which case, your posts could also, in a sense, be called empty.

Now, it's obviously not a bad thing in itself that you do that (it makes the forum feel more lively and puts a spotlight on certain things that could get lost in the hectic nature of a live thread), it's just I wouldn't get too full of yourself and think all your opinions are especially original or unique or deeper than anyone else's lol. They're not. And certainly not to the extent that you think you get to act like a prized dickhead towards other users for having the gumption to simply disagree with you.

That's all I meant.

[millyrose]

Originally Posted by vesavius

what am empty meaningless reply this is though

I still like Richard and want him to win

[Ammi]

…hmmmm, maybe he is very measured, I get that…what’s that quote/poem though…If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs…
…etc…

…in terms of BB and house behaviour/actions and reactions, that’s quite the rare bird, I feel…so in terms of being presented with a character, I like that character…and for probably multiple reasons…his character has shown a balance that hasn’t aimed any mean spirited words against others…he has such a more quietly understated way that he doesn’t ‘command’ airtime so he doesn’t know how any ‘contriving’ would be perceived …maybe positively/maybe not so much and being older, he maybe feels such a disadvantage in terms of being ‘fan base material’…and yet he hasn’t wavered or adjusted in steering that Richard ship in always seeming to remain who he is…I mean…dull, to sit there with his bible, yes and to not join in so much with some of the frolicking and fun making …and general craziness or whatever…all of those things that can give a housemate airtime and headline time …so that’s a very risky business to be that person …and that’s a very rare housemate who is able to achieve that and without pulling others down to boost his own self…

…for me, he has all of that quirkiness of back in the day BB housemates that has so been lost in time …and I have found him entertaining/…again in a very quiet and Richard way that I’ve found very refreshing…I’m not in any way falling for Richardness/I like his Richardness…it’s for me, been a pretty all in all poor season but Richard has been one of the gems that have shone….

[Katmieow]

Richard is genuine and he's my winner.

[Ray.]

The fact that I think he's a game player is partly why I want him to win

[caprimint]

This is Caroline's whole point lol. I like Richard though and I do think he's genuine but it's possible he plays up to it at times

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by caprimint

I do think he's genuine

Crikey.. Really?

[caprimint]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Crikey.. Really?

Hadn't watched last night's ep before writing this post Maybe Caroline is actually right about him

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by caprimint

Hadn't watched last night's ep before writing this post Maybe Caroline is actually right about him

Yeah, I actually think Richard has been getting an incredibly kind edit up until now. She has seen through him and now others are as well.

[Ray.]

Ignored

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Ray.

Ignored

which is what I suggested you do right at the start..

Not sure I will cope without reading all your amazing insights that I can never remember though, so.. booo

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Ray.

Ignored

Oh yay, joined in this effort.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Maru

Oh yay, joined in this effort.

thanks for the bump

[Ray.]

Originally Posted by Maru

Oh yay, joined in this effort.

[bots]

they are all playing a game, they are all game players. The question should be ..... do you like "insert hm name"'s game play. For me, the answer is yes for Richard, yes for Elsa and Cam and then absolutely not for many of the others

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bots

they are all playing a game, they are all game players. The question should be ..... do you like "insert hm name"'s game play. For me, the answer is yes for Richard, yes for Elsa and Cam and then absolutely not for many of the others

Yes exactly

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by bots

they are all playing a game, they are all game players. The question should be ..... do you like "insert hm name"'s game play. For me, the answer is yes for Richard, yes for Elsa and Cam and then absolutely not for many of the others

I agree with this 100%

They are all playing a game, agreed, and it simply comes down to if you like the type of game they are playing.

Caroline is playing the house, Richard is playing the audience.

I much prefer the first to the second. In fact, I actively dislike the second.. Manipulating the audience by lying about who you are from behind a fake persona is really not what BB is about to me.

This is why I much prefer a longer season.. It's much harder to maintain that as it goes on (as we see with Richard slipping up more and more). It can still be done (see Aaron winning), but it's much harder.

[Ammi]

…I do agree that its all down to what we personally feel is a ‘gameplan’ …there is so much about Caroline that I’ve liked throughout and I would like to see her in the final… but I think that she’s become quite obsessed with Richard because she just can’t understand the respect/affection that he has in the house as she doesn’t see him as a ‘fun’ person and actually thinks of him as quite boring…well, very boring…it was so clear to see her annoyance/frustration and anger, even when questioning Tate about why he spends time talking to Richard/almost inferring that time talking to Richard is ‘wasted’ as opposed to having ‘fun time’ as Caroline sees it…when Tate said that it’s because Richard knows the bible so if he wants to question or chat about the bible/then Richard is his go to guy…Caroline’s reaction actually shows huge contempt when she says that Richard’s no bible expert, he’s a music teacher who reads the bible because he’s got no life…that’s so many levels of ‘mean’ for me…because that goes beyond the BB house and any personal clash they may have in the house …that’s referring to his life outside of the house, that she has no knowledge of…and it’s also the questioning of someone who is spending time with Richard/Tate…so would she like to see Richard isolated in the house and Tate spend no time chatting…?…

…I understand that she finds it difficult to understand Richard and to understand the respect/affection that he’s held in by some…but she’s showing a real spite and intolerance of that, that seems to be engrossing her…