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CBB21 Celebrity Big Brother January 2018 [CBB 21] (dubbed Year of the Women). Discuss the housemates and series - which was won by Courtney Act - here.
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30-01-2018, 08:30 PM | #26 | ||
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I would argue that most paid therapy is this tbh.
My pain clinic keeps trying to get me to go to new therapy...to mentally deal with the pain I am in. As if ****ing thinking it away will make it go away. its stupid
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30-01-2018, 08:30 PM | #27 | ||
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30-01-2018, 08:40 PM | #28 | |||
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This as well tbh. Conversion therapy serves no other purpose than to promote an anti-gay agenda and she used other people's suffering for that end. I could give her the benefit of the doubt that she just didn't know enough about it but given her knowledge and intelligence I'd be very surprised.
That's different though, The point in that therapy would be to help you deal with the pain and that's not what the aim of conversion therapy is. Psychological therapy for people struggling with their sexuality could be good for them but that's not conversion therapy.
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30-01-2018, 08:46 PM | #29 | ||
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Oh right well yeah I suppose it is. Although it's not really a bad thing if it helps
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30-01-2018, 08:57 PM | #31 | |||
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Honestly think thats what Ann was referring to, particularly in reference to her time working for the Samaritans, critical point of care .... that by the way is genuinely showing care for every human being .... i don't see many threads saying how commendable that is
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30-01-2018, 09:05 PM | #32 | |||
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31-01-2018, 12:18 AM | #33 | ||
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31-01-2018, 12:22 AM | #34 | |||
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31-01-2018, 01:16 AM | #35 | ||
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I bet there's few LGBT people in this world who haven't at some point wished they were straight because life is easier when you don't have to worry about the ramifications of being open about your sexuality with the wrong person, it's easier not to deal with the bull**** that anyone who isn't hetero has to face but that doesn't mean that we should support the psychological trauma and self hatred that comes with conversion therapy, I don't care how soft and fluffy Ann makes it seem in her article. The reality of conversion therapy is completely ****ed up as is anyone who believes it's acceptable. Sexuality can not be changed, conversion therapy only exposes fragile people to more psychological trauma as it teaches them to that who they are is wrong, these people need to be taught acceptance for who they love, that's the only way to be happy. To damage someone so much that they falsely believe they are straight is a ticking timebomb waiting to happen. |
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31-01-2018, 01:22 AM | #36 | |||
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If you want to open a can of worms and get really deep into it , why don't we talk about how EFFED up it is that SHOCK therapy existed for anyone and everyone that experienced depression, mental health and stress .
The people in "white coats" thought this was the answer to anyone who didn't conform with the norm of the backwards society back then. And just remember it doesn't just take 1 person to make these decisions for so called therapy . |
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31-01-2018, 01:38 AM | #37 | |||
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Ann hates everyone who is different from her and has no empathy for others. Her voting record is awful.
Dissing Meghan Markle is another example. Seems like everyone already forgot about that. Last edited by camertone; 31-01-2018 at 01:41 AM. |
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31-01-2018, 02:11 AM | #38 | |||
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And yet... When India made the point that people who were trans and couldn't get the medical procedure that helps them become physically what they know they are internally... and often times it cause mental turmoil leading to suicide... Ann argued that others medical procedures are more prevalent. Hmmm.. seems to me a bit of an oxymoron.
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She also said in the article that it could help gay men who want to father children and get married yet she apposes adoption and marriage for gay people (and ignores the fact gay people can have children naturally anyway... as well as ignoring lesbians by putting the focus on fathering, which is very interesting). Her pretext of wanting to 'help' these people is ridiculous, the whole article is twisted actually.
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31-01-2018, 10:16 AM | #41 | |||
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31-01-2018, 10:30 AM | #42 | ||
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She believes that people are entitled to get help if they have problems and that should also be afforded to gay people as well, at the time someone who was struggling with been gay or didnt want to be gay was not been given any help. When she worked at Samaritans they did not promote 'it is ok to be gay' to someone who hated or didnt want to be gay. That is why she agreed if gay people were struggling then they should have therapy like everybody else.
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31-01-2018, 10:55 AM | #44 | |||
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31-01-2018, 11:04 AM | #45 | ||
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Things have changed since then but i still think she would agree that anybody asking for help should receive it.
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31-01-2018, 11:13 AM | #46 | |||
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I don't want anything to happen, I'm just pointing out why I believe her to be wrong on this because it's something I feel strongly about. No, she specifically endorses conversion therapy for them and that doesn't help them. Yes they should receive help but that's not what conversion therapy does.
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31-01-2018, 11:24 AM | #47 | ||
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Well said Jamie. It is cruel in the end,you are right. It's worrying that anyone elected to Parliament would advocate such views as this. More worrying to me is others supporting it and her view too. As you pointed out thankfully,there is near a fair bit of contradiction in other her long held views,and this issue too. |
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31-01-2018, 11:28 AM | #48 | |||
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Ann was speaking out on behalf of someone else who wanted to have this therapy and wasn't allowed. She wasn't supporting it personally, she was supporting his right, which is really different matter. Perhaps he needs to do it to convince himself it does not work, sometimes it's hard to be in someone elses head. As with many things to do with Ann, some people pick up a sentence and see black and white and ignore the grey area of what she really said.
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31-01-2018, 11:37 AM | #50 | ||
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