Formula 1 - Archive Thread

[Iceman]

Hamilton will be amazing, for me, he is just pure talent.

His overtake near the end of this race. okayhe touched him, but it was so good.

he didnt just touch him he cost him valuable points in the drivers championship,
Rubens is now third behind vettel....

Hamilton still has loads to learn....i think we forget technically he's still a rookie compared to the likes of rubens/fisichella.


On another note, Kimi is getting medical treatment for his eyes. He was blinded by the fuel that came of the mclaren....

[pinkmichk]

any news on kimi hope he ok shows wha a good driver he is cos he carried on racing

i wish bernie would just retire or something already just when you think he cant get any more stupid with his comments he comes out with this gem


Just when you thought Bernie Ecclestone couldn't sink any lower, he comes up with a little gem stating that Ayrton Senna's death in 1994 was "good" for F1.


Senna tragically died at the 1994 San Marino Grand Prix, just a day after the sport lost Roland Ratzenberg, both through accidents.


The two deaths, especially triple World Champion Senna's, sparked an out pouring grief amongst Formula One fans.


However, Ecclestone, who has previously praised Adolf Hitler's management style, says it was good for the sport.


"It was unfortunate. But the generated publicity was so much... It was good for Formula 1," he told Brazilian newspaper Folha de São Paulo.


"It is a pity that we had to lose to Ayrton, but it happened. People who did not know anything about the sport knew more about Formula One because of the interest his death generated."

[Iceman]

I like your quote in your sig!

Bernie is a man on a mission to be the most hated guy in all of sport!

[pinkmichk]

he is such a idiot how can he still have a job after all the bull he comes out with
:joker: tis good eh just making sure you dont change your mind

[Iceman]

I wont go back on my word trust me! If it means the Iceman stays then im a happy man!

Kimi is okay he says he just went as a precaution...he laso said that if he had perfect vision in the race he would have tried to overtake more.....I think Lewis and The Iceman are on the comeback!

[pinkmichk]

glad he ok next season is gonna be amazing i think

[Iceman]

Adam Carroll may have slipped under the radar since he captured the A1GP championship for Team Ireland back in May but he hasn't been idle and the low profile has been deliberate.

He has been quietly working away behind the scenes, planning his racing future, but now crunch time is approaching for the 26-year-old Portadown driver.

Within the next few weeks the make-up of the 2010 Formula One grid will become apparent and with four new teams set to join the grand prix ranks, it is probably now or never for Carroll.

If he is to realise his dream of graduating to F1 it must surely happen in the coming weeks. And, I'm told, the signs are encouraging.

After his impressive double victory which secured the A1GP World Cup of Motorsport for Ireland at Brands Hatch almost six months ago, Carroll took the conscious decision to sit out the summer.

He had offers to drive in a number of competitions including the football themed Superleague and the Formula Masters series but rejected them, opting to concentrate instead on his F1 goal.

He has been in talks with a number of teams and with the potential backers who will be needed to ease him into the seat of a grand prix car.

Drivers like Lewis Hamilton, Fernando Alonso and Kimi Raikkonen may earn multi-million dollar fortunes but hopefuls like Carroll must fund their graduation.

The payback, if they are successful, will come later which is the gamble investors and sponsors are being asked to take.

But Carroll has the credentials to be an F1 success.

He has been a winner at every level of motor racing through Formula Ford, Formula Three, GP2 and most recently A1GP.

He has raced against — and beaten — at least half of the current F1 grid including 2008 World champion Hamilton, Nico Rosberg, Heikki Kovalainin, Timo Glock, Sebastien Buemi and Toni Luizzi.

They only thing he has lacked is money and the opportunities it brings.

The summer objective for Carroll and his advisors has been to raise the three-to-four million dollar budget required for the next step.

Shortly we will know if they have been successful.

Carroll won't — or more accurately can't because of confidentiality agreements — reveal which teams he is talking to but rumours continue to link him most closely with the new Manor Grand Prix operation which is expected to take to the grid next year under the Virgin banner.

The situation, however, has been complicated by the announcement of the exit of BMW-Sauber from the end of this season, putting established drivers like Robert Kubica (already snapped up by Renault) and Nick Heidfeld onto the market.

The Sauber team may yet survive under new owners but there are still questions hanging over the future of Toyota and their drivers Glock and Jarno Trulli.

But the encouraging news is that Carroll is still very much in the mix, whether with Manor or one of the other ‘expansion' teams — Campos, USF1 and Lotus — or even an existing team, like Williams who are expected to drop Kuzuki Nakajima (along with Toyota engines) and may lose Rosberg to Brawn.

Read more: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/now-or-never-for-carroll-14531027.html#ixzz0UPv80FPi

[pinkmichk]

how long has he been driving? i kinda do recognise the name be cool if he can get his F1 break

[pinkmichk]

another day another team rumour for kimi
Toyota continue their pursuit of Raikkonen
Tuesday 20th October 2009

Toyota are continuing in their pursuit of Kimi Raikkonen with team president John Howett revealing that they have offered the Finn a contract for next season.


Raikkonen is without a 2010 race-seat after agreeing to part ways with Ferrari a year earlier than expect, earning the 2007 World Champion a hefty pay-off.


Subsequent rumours have linked him to a possible move to McLaren while Toyota have also expressed an interest. In fact, Howett says they've even put an offer on the table.


"We don't play too many games. We put on the table what we can afford and what we think is a serious offer in the current market," he told Reuters.


"I think genuinely we could work well with him, give him a car that's quick.


"We have had very good relationships with Scandinavian drivers in the rallying times that enjoy life and it works very well, so we could cope with it as a team."


As for existing drivers, Jarno Trulli and Timo Glock, neither driver is assured of a deal for next season. Howett did, however, admit that the team has made Trulli an offer, although they not sure if he will accept.


"With both drivers we are still maintaining a degree of discussion," said Howett.


"We have put an offer on the table with Jarno, I think that he himself is not dissatisfied with the financial offer, the bottom line to some extent is certain issues on the contract and I don't think they are negotiable from our side.


"He may well be in the car next year but it's not at all clear."


Another option available to the team is Kamui Kobayashi, who made his debut in Brazil, replacing the injured Glock.


"I thought he defended well, he retook Jenson," said Howett. "He's fearless and did a good job to get past Fisichella.


"He was a bit off the pace overall but it was very impressive. You have to say we have to give him serious consideration but still pace-wise he was a bit slow so we have to see."


i cant see him going to toyota if he stays in F1 why would a driver of his level go to one of the lower teams when he has 1 of the big teams with a good car snapping at his heels

[Iceman]

The opening laps of Sunday’s Brazilian Grand Prix were a busy time for the Interlagos race stewards, with several incidents taking place in close succession. As a result Toyota’s Jarno Trulli, McLaren and their driver Heikki Kovalainen have each been handed penalties.

On the first lap Trulli and Force India’s Adrian Sutil tangled as the Italian attempted a move on the German. After considering video evidence and telemetry data, the stewards decided not to take any further action, labelling the coming together as a racing incident.

But after ‘failing to leave the track as required by the marshals immediately after the incident and aggressively confronting Sutil’, Trulli was found to have breached Article 151 (c) of the 2009 FIA International Sporting Code, which rules against ‘any act prejudicial to the interests of any competition or to the interests of motor sport generally.’ Consequently he was reprimanded and fined US$10,000.

With the safety car deployed for the Trulli-Sutil incident, there was drama in the pit-lane soon after, when Kovalainen exited his pit too early, leaving with his fuel hose still attached to the car. Ferrari’s Kimi Raikkonen, who was right behind the emerging McLaren, got a face fuel of fuel, which then ignited.

McLaren were fined $50,000 for the unsafe pit stop release, while their Finnish driver was given a drive-through penalty. As this was handed down after the race had finished, 25 seconds were instead added to his race time, dropping him from ninth to 12th in the final results.

An earlier Lap One incident between Kovalainen and Ferrari’s Giancarlo Fisichella, in which the McLaren driver was sent spinning into the Italian after being tagged by Red Bull’s Sebastian Vettel, was deemed a racing incident.


Havent heard anything yet, but I do see him reaching a decision this week, he wont play the come and get me game, if he wants to race he'll race, money isnt a problem anymore he has millions (Kimi that is)

[pinkmichk]

i'm glad they got penalties marshalls doing the right thing

[Iceman]

Yes, they still need to assign a marshall who'll go to every race, consistency is the only answer there.

[pinkmichk]

i'm suprised they dont have 1 or 2 would be so much better

[Iceman]

its a stupid thing that they dont, wouldnt be surprised if a certain stumpy idiot is to blame for this!

[Iceman]

Another day another rumour:



Toyota Team President John Howett admits that Kimi Raikkonen is unlikely to join the team because the driver is asking for too much money.

Having admitted to approaching the Finn with what they believed to be a "serious offer in the current market", Howett seems resigned to missing out on the former World Champion's service unless he drops his wage demands significantly.

"He gave us back a figure that is much too high," the Briton told Swiss publication Motorsport Aktuell.

"He says he has two options, so we are going to wait," he added.

It is believed that Raikkonen is also in talks with McLaren, the team he spent five years with before joining Ferrari, and that the 30-year-old is requesting 25 million Euros to secure his services.

[pinkmichk]

oh bernie is def to blame every F1 cock up is down to some crap that pours from him like i say he needs to retire already

i saw that earlier but didnt have time to post it cos was headed out door so the 2 options are mclaren and who?

[Iceman]

renault I think, I would hope he goes to Mclaren renault is a big step down in my opinion.

[pinkmichk]

i thought redbull were in the mix? ahhhh just choose mclaren already kimi i cant keep up with all the rumours

[King Gizzard]

http://www.lewishamiltonsucks.com/

What a brilliant site!

[pinkmichk]

http://www.lewishamiltonsucks.com/

What a brilliant site!

:joker: some people have far too much time on their hands bless them

[Iceman]

That site is great!!!!! Bookmarked! :)

Still no word on Kimi, I imagine it will be this week, so he can get away from questioning at Abu Dhabi and then just have his own time after the race...

[pinkmichk]

ahhhhh come on kimi i dont do waiting and i wont be watching the last race cos i'm going flame and thunder at santapod so want a decision before then

[setanta]

I don't know what the thrill is with F1. Driving around in circles for a couple of hours. Only worth watching at the beginning for the crashes.

[Iceman]

I know i really think tomorrow or Friday and then he can be questioned by the media before the arce and Ferrari can pay him what he's owed......easiest 25million ever.

[pinkmichk]

I don't know what the thrill is with F1. Driving around in circles for a couple of hours. Only worth watching at the beginning for the crashes.

each to their own plus crashes dont just happen first few laps

ice i hope that is the case from the reads of that last article if it to be believed then he is staying in F1 its just who he racing with

[Iceman]

Yeah but I'd prefer him to go to Rallying or just retire if tis not with mclaren (something I NEVER thought i'd say)

[pinkmichk]

who'd have thought we could be potenially supporting the same team :joker: but then i was so suprised he even raced this year i havent watched rally in a long time

[Iceman]

I don't know what the thrill is with F1. Driving around in circles for a couple of hours. Only worth watching at the beginning for the crashes.

If you watch sme of the videos i'll post later you'll see why it has a global audience of about 80 million....some really outstanding stuff.

[Iceman]

who'd have thought we could be potenially supporting the same team :joker: but then i was so suprised he even raced this year i havent watched rally in a long time

I know, the hate I had for Lewis is almost gone, I have too much hate for Button now, who in my opinion is probably the most undeserving F1 champion in history (If you could find a driver more undeserving i'd be pretty impressed):joker::joker:

Oh I have a vid on YT somehwere of the new circuit...its only a few laps of it, but i'll post it later on or tonight....worth a look.

[pinkmichk]

If you watch sme of the videos i'll post later you'll see why it has a global audience of about 80 million....some really outstanding stuff.

i agree with this it has me on the edge of my seat and i get rather animated when watching it (i pity my neighbours at times :joker: )

oooh cool looking forward to track vid i'll have to settle for highlights of the last race unless they show it down at santapod

and no i cant find a more undeserving champion thats a impossible task :joker:

[Iceman]

I'll post the highlights of it here on Sunday night... (actually better check the start time for the race)

[Iceman]

yeah 1 o clock start....

[pinkmichk]

i dont think i'll be back til evening so that would be cool thank you :spin:

[Iceman]

Yeah no problem....I will keep posting driver line-ups etc aswell as they're anounced...

[James]

Here's the provisional schedule for next year...


2010 FIA Formula One World Championship

14/3 BRN Bahrain
28/3 AUS Australia
4/4 MAL Malaysia
18/4 CN China
9/5 E Spain
16/5 MC Monaco
30/5 TR Turkey
13/6 CDN Canada**
27/6 E Europe (Valencia)
11/7 GB Great Britain*
25/7 D Germany
1/8 H Hungary
29/8 B Belgium
12/9 I Italy
26/9 SGP Singapore
3/10 J Japan
17/10 ROK Korea*
31/10 UAE Abu Dhabi*
14/11 BR Brazil

*Subject to the homologation of the circuit.

**Subject to the completion of contract negotiations with Formula One Management.

The FIA has approved in principle a proposal to swap the dates of the Abu Dhabi and Brazil grands prix, pending agreement with the promoters of both events.


http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/79651

[Iceman]

Is that including Monaco's date change?

Did you hear about the A1 being cancelled this week?

[setanta]

If you watch sme of the videos i'll post later you'll see why it has a global audience of about 80 million....some really outstanding stuff.

Don't get me wrong; I admire the skill involved, but I don't see the entertainment value in it.

[Iceman]

Don't get me wrong; I admire the skill involved, but I don't see the entertainment value in it.

Yeah i suppose its a sport you either love or hate......

[James]

Is that including Monaco's date change?

Did you hear about the A1 being cancelled this week?

Yeah that is with Monaco back a week. Heard about A1GP, don't know if it will be back at all this season.

[Iceman]

Yeah that is with Monaco back a week. Heard about A1GP, don't know if it will be back at all this season.

It's a shame really it's a good series and only had the potential to grow and gain fans....

[Iceman]

ikvjwBEYk50

First Laps of Abu Dhabi

I have to say this looks like an amazing circuit.

The pit exit is unbeleivable.

[pinkmichk]

wow looks like a awesome track lets hope no pit lane exit incidents cos i bet that'd be a mare to get people out of

[Iceman]

just read on kimi's twitter (yes it's him and yeah I know he of all people has a twitter) said his eyes are fine, they were just really sore...

[pinkmichk]

whats kimi's twitter?

[Iceman]

Sorry haven't been on all day

--> http://twitter.com/KIMI_RAIKKONEN

[pinkmichk]

thank you

[James]

I see that he is being followed on Twitter by Nico Rosberg (assuming that is really him also :p) but is there anything else to say it is genuine?

Noticed this - http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/10/loeb-will-not-make-f1-debut-in-abu-dhabi/ Didn't realise that was being lined-up, but probably the right decision.

[James]

Looks like the British Grand Prix at Donnington is a no-go...


Donington GP bid looks to be over

Donington Park's hopes of staging the British Grand Prix from 2010 look to be over after the operators' latest fund-raising attempts fell through.

Earlier this month, Donington launched a bond issue in an attempt to raise £135m, but that has now been withdrawn.

Silverstone is ready to step back in if guaranteed the British Grand Prix would remain at the circuit long-term.....


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8300268.stm

[Iceman]

Im glad about that they fecked around too much with it, prefer Silverstone anyway.

[pinkmichk]

yeah i prefere silverstone

[Iceman]

HA i just read button might join hamilton at mclaren, if they choose button over kimi, it shows what state the team are in and why they wont win a world title next year.......please god let it be hearsay....

[pinkmichk]

oh god please no i'd take even the likes of sutil or nakajima over button

[pinkmichk]

button rumours squashed already

Mercedes motorsport director Norbert Haug has poured cold water over suggestions that McLaren could make a move for newly-crowned World Champion Jenson Button.


British papers reported on Friday that McLaren, backed by sponsor Vodafone, were keen on signing Button so that he could team up with fellow Brit Lewis Hamilton.


However, Haug has dismissed the speculation as nothing but a pipe dream.


"There are no current negotiations with Jenson Button but I do have understanding for the fact that people in England are dreaming of an English team with two World Champions in the cockpits," Haug told German Press Agency dpa.


"However, dreams don't always come true."

[Iceman]

Hamilton grabbed an absolutely magnificent pole, best ive evr seen since schumacher.......

[pinkmichk]

good race today although obviously gutted hamilton had to retire cos he was set for a fantastic race i got home at half 12 from (a rather wet and muddy) santapod so was able to see all the race
before it was like a lets see how many celeb friend eddie has i'm starting to not like him as a commentator he is starting to bug me a lot i really just wanna slap him
only 133 days til bahrain and we still dont know where most drivers are going

[Iceman]

I reckon by the end of next week we shall know a good few!

Vettel was perfect today and Kobayashi impresses once again!

[pinkmichk]

i agree about Kobayashi i think he is gpnna be a driver to watch next season second race and he was challenging button and getting past

[Iceman]

i agree about Kobayashi i think he is gpnna be a driver to watch next season second race and he was challenging button and getting past

Twice that Button has been owned by him!

[Wildcat!]

THat Kobayashi dude is fealress crazy! :D
HE is an Ayrton Senna in the maing.

But woow, how nice is that Abu Dhabi circuit. AMazing.

[pinkmichk]

Twice that Button has been owned by him!

good button may be british but doesnt mean have to like him :joker:

[pinkmichk]

THat Kobayashi dude is fealress crazy! :D
HE is an Ayrton Senna in the maing.

But woow, how nice is that Abu Dhabi circuit. AMazing.

agreed about kobayashi and i love the abu dhabi circuit i think it may just take monacos spot as my fav

[Iceman]

Here's a list of current drivers for next year plus rumoured :

Ferrari
Massa
Alonso

Mclaren
Hamilton
Kimi (Rumoured)

Renault
Kubica
Heikki (Rumoured)

Brawn
Button
??????

Campos Meta Team
Bruno Senna
????????

Force India
Adrian Sutil
????????

Lotus
Adam Carroll (Rumoured)
????????

Manor F1
????
?????

Red Bull
Webber
Vettel

Toro Rosso
?????
?????

Toyota
Glock
Kobayashi (Rumoured)

USF1
????
????

Williams
Barrichello
????


So that leaves the folowing without a drive:

Fisichella
Heidfeld
Grosjean
Trulli
Alguiseri
Buemi
Rosberg
Nakajima
Liuzzi

[pinkmichk]

buemi and nakajima imo have not shown enough improvement to deserve a race seat and heidfeld is kinda like piquet jnr to me just seems very much under the radar the whole time very rare he spoke about cos he does nowt exciting

[Iceman]

Am extremely excited that Senna got a drive, hopefully he'll pull the finger out and not be so cocky....

[Wildcat!]

I couldnt stand Ayrton Senna. I mean, I know he is a legend and everything, but he was over rated imo, and a very dirty driver.
Alain Prost was a lot better.

[Iceman]

cant wait until next season when normality is restored and button ****s back off into obscurity...

[pinkmichk]

next season is gonna be pretty awesome i think i'm hoping for more drivers being in the fight for championship oh and yeah for button to disappear perhaps into that hole we want to develop for bernie
speaking of him today is the first i heard about the no refueling rule next yr and it sounds like a bernie idea am i right?

[Iceman]

next season is gonna be pretty awesome i think i'm hoping for more drivers being in the fight for championship oh and yeah for button to disappear perhaps into that hole we want to develop for bernie
speaking of him today is the first i heard about the no refueling rule next yr and it sounds like a bernie idea am i right?

It is a Bernie Idea, I think it's gonna be good, they'll all be as equal as possible, they will still have to pit for tyres though....

Have to give Bernie props for this circuit though it's just amazing!

[pinkmichk]

yeah this circuit is prob the only decent thing that has come from him
i just read on twitter that bridgestone wont be supplying tyres after 2010

[pinkmichk]

the first of the driver seat updates we have been waiting on (sadly not a kimi update yet)
Williams confirm Barrichello and Hulkenburg as 2010 driver line up

[pinkmichk]

toyota news
It is being reported that Toyota have set November 8th as the day they will announce the future of the team. Previously it had been believed that the team would wait until their board meeting in mid November before any announcements would be made, however for whatever reason this has now been brought forward.

The future of the team has been in question for many weeks, with the team under performing throughout the tail end of the season. Toyota wouldn’t be the first casualty either of the big car manufacturer pull outs from Formula 1, with Honda and BMW already out of the game due to the world financial crisis.

Current drivers are also unconfirmed for 2010 seats, with Timo Glock and Jarno Trulli seemingly about to fly the nest, with the Toyota team looking for fresh blood such as the promising Kamui Kobayashi. Team boss John Howett has been positive however, keen to sign new drivers – even looking at the expensive Kimi Raikkonen.

If Toyota were to leave the sport this would free up a space on the grid for another team, which would work out quite nicely for the ex BMW Sauber team, who currently have new owners, but no grid places in 2010.

Update 03/11/09 19:15

It is being reported by Japanese newspaper Mainichi Daily News that the Toyota board have decided to pull out of Formula 1. More soon.

[James]

It is a Bernie Idea, I think it's gonna be good, they'll all be as equal as possible, they will still have to pit for tyres though....

Have to give Bernie props for this circuit though it's just amazing!

Hopefully no refueling stops will mean better racing on track rather than teams trying to gain places during the stops.

[Iceman]

Oh no Toyota leaving, they finally upped there game this year, what a shame, looks like there will only be 24 cars now, not as many as hoped for (unless new teams can be brought in)

[pinkmichk]

i also read somewhere but cant find link cos was on twitter on my phone that apparently renault are also considering pulling out

[Iceman]

loads of people now saying Kimi is just about to sign for Mclaren any day now.....

also one source said he'd make more money out of F1 than in it!

fingers crossed he stays....;)

[pinkmichk]

i cant believe we still waiting on news

[Iceman]

Silverstone got the go ahead............................................. .........FINALLY

[Iceman]

Kimi Raikkonen’s management team visited McLaren’s Technology Centre on Wednesday as guests of Martin Whitmarsh, itv.com/f1 has learned.

Steve and David Robertson were seen in conversation with the McLaren team principal while walking around parts of the squad’s Woking base.

Former world champion Raikkonen has been heavily linked with a return to McLaren since reaching an agreement with Ferrari to end his contract with the team a year early so that it could make room for Fernando Alonso.

But although the Robertsons’ McLaren visit suggests McLaren is indeed making a serious bid to re-sign the Finn after his three-year stint at Ferrari, itv.com/f1 understands that other candidates remain in the running for the seat alongside Lewis Hamilton in 2010.

Raikkonen has made it clear since his Ferrari departure was confirmed that he is only interested in remaining in Formula 1 next year with a team that will give him the chance to challenge for a second world championship.

Amid speculation that disagreements over money had slowed the progress of his initial talks with McLaren, Raikkonen told reporters at the season finale in Abu Dhabi said he wouldn’t be compromising on any deal just to stay on the grid.

"I have options and I still want to be here [in F1], but everything needs to be perfect," Raikkonen said in Abu Dhabi.

"I have no reason to make any contract that I don't feel 100 per cent happy with.”

The 30-year-old has previously hinted that he could take a sabbatical from F1 or switch to the World Rally Championship if he does not secure a drive he is happy with before next season.

Raikkonen has appeared the most likely driver to become Hamilton’s 2010 team-mate for weeks, although Whitmarsh has previously not ruled out the prospect of Heikki Kovalainen retaining his drive despite his disappointing results this year.

The possibility of new world champion Jenson Button joining Hamilton in an all-British line-up has also been mooted with the star yet to agree a new contract at Brawn.




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[pinkmichk]

excellent news bout silverstone
ahhhh come on kimi we pretty much know your going to mclaren just come out and confirm already

[Iceman]

definately there so he is, why else would his management and PR team be there?????

[pinkmichk]

there no other reason they would be there not that i can think of

[Iceman]

jenson button is at the mclaren factory, I will stop watching F1 if button goes to mclaren....

this better be a ****ing joke!

[pinkmichk]

GRAH nooooooooooooooooo please no button to mclaren that will ruin it for me chants we want kimi we want kimi we want kimi

[Iceman]

the sport will lose any credibility........

breakaway series anyone?

[pinkmichk]

i wasnt so sure bout a breakaway but yup if button goes mclaren i would follow one we dont want a all english team button is crap he got lucky this yr kimi is a far better driver

[pinkmichk]

German car giant Mercedes has bought the Brawn Formula 1 team in a move that is likely to see Jenson Button join McLaren as Lewis Hamilton's team-mate.

Mercedes will buy a controlling interest in Brawn, believed to be 75% but is expected to continue as McLaren's engine supplier.

Brawn, who won both world titles in their debut season in 2009, will be rebranded as the Mercedes GP team.

Nico Rosberg will be their lead driver, with Nick Heidfeld his likely partner.

Neither driver has yet been confirmed

its not looking good at the minute for not having button at mclaren its just looking more likely after this news

[Iceman]

can see why button was at mclaren now last week, i think the sport is dying.....

[pinkmichk]

gutted kimi is not racing in f1 next year which also means button to mclaren is basically a done deal :(

[pinkmichk]

button is now hamiltons team mate :(

Jenson Button has signed to drive alongside Lewis Hamilton in an all-English line-up at McLaren next season, BBC Sport has learned.

The world champion's move will be announced later on Wednesday.

The confirmation follows news that former world champion Kimi Raikkonen will not race in F1 next year.

The move leaves McLaren with one of the most exciting driver line-ups in F1 and Button facing arguably the toughest challenge of his career.

Button's former team Brawn, who have been taken over by Mercedes, made Button an offer, but the 29-year-old did not consider it acceptable.

His switch means McLaren will be fielding the last two world champions in the same team, Hamilton having won the drivers' title in 2008.

Button's preference for McLaren is not solely to do with money, according to sources. He also believes it is the best option for his career.

After a poor start to the 2009 season, McLaren came back strongly in the second half of the year, while Brawn, after dominating the first third of the season, slipped back in competitiveness as the year went on.

Button's manager Richard Goddard was unavailable for comment.

Brawn emerged from the ashes of the former Honda team, after the Japanese company pulled out of F1 last winter.

Button took a pay cut last winter to help secure the team's future and they went on to win the world championship together in Brawn's debut season.

Now renamed Mercedes Grand Prix, the team have already signed the German Nico Rosberg as one of their drivers.

[Gemmer-x]

eep not sure if moving to mclaren is a great move for Button.. i understand why though; potentially better car/ more moneys but hmm i'm not sure if i like the 'all english line up at Mclaren'

[pinkmichk]

hello gemmer none of us from what i can gather are happy about button going to mclaren we all wanted kimi there with lewis

[Iceman]

Gemma the best thing button could have done was retired......that way all the people who seem to think he was a good driver would remember him that way and not the driver who went for 9 years and didnt win a race.... :)

[pinkmichk]

Gemma the best thing button could have done was retired......that way all the people who seem to think he was a good driver would remember him that way and not the driver who went for 9 years and didnt win a race.... :)

i agree with this he just got lucky last season and wasnt exactly consistant throughout the season

[James]

Formula 1 young driver test is on at the moment.

Pics - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8390583.stm

Paul di Resta did well, looks like. I have watched him in German DTM.



Di Resta impresses in Jerez test

Scotland's Paul di Resta posted the second-quickest time at the end of the first day of Formula 1's young driver test at Jerez in Spain.

The West Lothian driver, 23, vying for a place as Force India's test and reserve driver for the 2010 season, finished behind Spain's Andy Soucek.

Di Resta was eight places ahead of his team rival, American JR Hildebrand.

Englishman Gary Paffett was third in a McLaren, Mike Conway sixth for Mercedes and Oliver Turvey 11th for McLaren.

Di Resta - the cousin of IndyCar Series champion Dario Franchitti - started three days of testing with the Force India team on Tuesday.

"It's a great opportunity and something I have waited a very long time to get a hold of," Di Resta told BBC Scotland earlier this week. "Who knows what the future holds, but my aim is to get into Formula 1."


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8389637.stm

[Iceman]

final day of testing today then?

[Iceman]

Jenson Button now an official Mclaren driver :nono: should have retired

[Mark]

New ferrari car picture. Top half of the image is the new car, bottom half is the old car. Seems the cars are a little longer now :)

http://i49.tinypic.com/etw6y8.jpg

[Mark]

Williams car:
http://cdn.images.autosport.com/editorial/1264694745.jpg

[Iceman]

Im not a fan of Ferrari anymore :(:(

Have to support the greatest!! ;)

I do like the new ferrari though, didn't think it would be that much longer to be honest...

[Mark]

http://carlaunch.mclaren.com/

[Iceman]

http://carlaunch.mclaren.com/

You Have made my day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:dance::dance::dance::dance:

[pinkmichk]

the MP4-25 is a stunning car really love it so much better than last years car lets just hope it is fast on track

[James]

New Mac looks good, I watched that broadcast today.

During the questions a journalist asked Jenson B how he felt about getting paid less than Lewis - it was a bit of an awkward moment lol.

[pinkmichk]

i tried watching but the site kept freezing on me so i hardly saw any but thankfully follow people like jake humprey who were there and tweeting bout it and pics too

[Iceman]

New renault is the exact same as the old Jordan car.......hmm does anyone lese think Eddie has a few secret shares in there....

[James]

Renault F1 car looks a lot better now they have dropped / been dropped by Ing Bank.

[Mark]

Renault F1 car looks a lot better now they have dropped / been dropped by Ing Bank.

The sides still look a little bulky :hugesmile:

http://www.gurneyflap.com/Resources/R11.jpg

[James]

Not F1 but best looking racing car in the world IMO. Peugeot 908 HDI sports prototype... http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/pic/3064/Peugeot-908-HDi-FAP_3.html

[Iceman]

Not F1 but best looking racing car in the world IMO. Peugeot 908 HDI sports prototype... http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/pic/3064/Peugeot-908-HDi-FAP_3.html

Taxi for James........think he's drunk:joker::joker::joker:

[James]

Lewis Hamilton ended his first day's preparation for the 2010 Formula 1 season with his McLaren lagging behind Felipe Massa's Ferrari.

The Brazilian topped the times for the second day running at the major test at Valencia's Ricardo Tormo circuit.

Hamilton was third fastest behind the Sauber of Japanese Kamui Kobayashi and 0.534 seconds adrift of Massa.

A McLaren spokesman told BBC Sport that Hamilton had said he was happy with the car and testing was going well.

The 25-year-old, world champion in 2008, is due to speak to the media later on Tuesday.

Headline lap times from testing are not necessarily an accurate indication of the pace of the cars, as fuel loads, tyres and track condition can have a dramatic effect on performance.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8493706.stm

and new points system...


Formula 1 will have a new points system for the 2010 after an agreement between the governing body (FIA) and the teams.

The new system will see places rewarded in a 25-18-15-12-10-8-6-4-2-1 sequence.

F1 bosses believe a seven-point gap between first and second place, rather than the current two-point separation, will promote a 'race-to-win' attitude.

New tyre rules mean drivers must start races on the same tyres they set their grid time in, while 'double diffusers' will be banned from 2011.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8493082.stm

[Iceman]

Points system is so much better now......tyres will be the crucial thing racing now......im thinking 3 tyre changes per race.....

[James]

Downside of the qualifying tyres thing is I can see it leading to not very interesting qualifying with drivers wanting to preserve tyres for the race.

[Iceman]

Downside of the qualifying tyres thing is I can see it leading to not very interesting qualifying with drivers wanting to preserve tyres for the race.

Yeah.....I'd propose maybe 3 points for pole, 2 points for second and 1 point for third in qualifying would make them fight for it......

also maybe 3 points for fastest lap in race.....

[Iceman]

Just looking at a picture of all the cars again....im really liking all of them with the exception of the renault.....

also adam carroll might sign next week for campos meta.....Ireland be represented again :):):):)

[Iceman]

Fernando Alonso (ESP) Ferrari F10. Formula One Testing, Day Three, Valencia, Spain, Wednesday 3 February 2010. Fans flock into the grandstands to see Fernando Alonso (ESP) test the Ferrari for the first time. Formula One Testing, Day Three, Valencia, Spain, Wednesday 3 February 2010. Michael Schumacher (GER) Mercedes GP MGP W01. Formula One Testing, Day Three, Valencia, Spain, Wednesday 3 February 2010. Jaime Alguersuari (ESP) Scuderia Toro Rosso STR5. Formula One Testing, Day Three, Valencia, Spain, Wednesday 3 February 2010. Jenson Button (GBR) McLaren MP4/25. Formula One Testing, Day Three, Valencia, Spain, Wednesday 3 February 2010.

If the crowd of thousands that descended on the Valencia track on Wednesday made the trip to the Spanish circuit to watch local hero Fernando Alonso in action in a Ferrari for the first time, then they’ll leave well satisfied.

Not only did Alonso cover 127 laps over the course of the day, but he also topped the timesheets. Clocking a best time of 1m 11.470s, he finished over six tenths of a second ahead of the BMW Sauber of fellow Spaniard Pedro de la Rosa, as this week’s three-day test drew to a close.

Alonso focused on finding the best set-up in the F10 and assessing its handling with various fuel loads. De la Rosa, meanwhile, focused on tyre and set-up work in the C29 and completed 80 laps.

"We are quite satisfied with the first test,” explained BMW Sauber’s technical director, Willy Rampf. “As well as being reliable, it was important to see that the car responded to changes in the way we expected. The drivers' comments on the car basically were in line with that, which also helps the team to work in the right direction."

Mercedes GP took up the third-fastest slot, as Michael Schumacher completed his first full day behind the wheel of the MGP W01. Schumacher spent the morning working on set-up and balance, before switching to long runs in the afternoon. Although a hydraulic problem on the car brought the German’s day to a close one hour early, he covered a total of 82 laps.

"I'm very happy to have been back in a Formula One car this week,” he said. “We had a short run on Monday and then almost a full day today which has been good. The experience has been very positive and the car is running smoothly with just a small hydraulic leak which stopped us slightly early. The main focus is on reliability and doing as many laps as we can so we're not too worried about looking at the lap times right now.

“It's a new challenge and a new experience for me this year but knowing (team principal) Ross (Brawn) so well and working with him again has made it very easy and I feel at home in the team already. I'm feeling fresh and motivated and very positive about the season ahead. I can't wait to be back in the car to continue the programme in Jerez next week."

Just over a tenth slower than Schumacher was Jaime Alguersuari in the Toro Rosso. Alguersuari, who was enjoying his first taste of the STR5 after taking over the cockpit from team mate Sebastien Buemi, completed 97 laps.

“It felt good to complete my first-ever Formula one test session, as last season I was never able to do any testing,” said the Spaniard. “I was able to concentrate on understanding the car, without having to think about it in terms of a race weekend. Personally, I felt much stronger in the car, as I have been training hard in the three months since I last drove in Abu Dhabi. Today was a positive experience and I’m looking forward now to next week in Jerez. It’s too early to say much about the car’s performance, but it felt competitive.”

Also in their 2010 cockpit for the first time was Jenson Button in McLaren’s new MP4-25. Button covered 82 laps as he made his way to fifth in the times. Although his best was a full 1.5 seconds down on Alonso’s quickest time, the British team were well satisfied with how the day progressed, as Button ran a series of longer runs to find the right balance and set-up.

Sixth fastest was Formula One racing’s first-ever Russian driver, Vitaly Petrov, who made his debut for Renault and completed 75 laps in the French team’s R30.

“I really enjoyed my first day in the car and everything went well,” said the 25 year-old. “The car is very impressive compared with a GP2 car and I enjoyed experiencing the power and braking performance. After about 30 laps I was starting to feel comfortable and understanding the limits of the car. It was also my first chance to work with my engineers and so far everything is going really well so I'm happy with the day."

Wednesday’s final runner was fellow newcomer Nico Hulkenberg, who finished in seventh for Williams. Hulkenberg enjoyed a busy session, covering 126 laps.

“We worked on putting as much mileage as we could on the FW32 and achieved over 500 kilometres at the end of the day, bringing us to a test total of 1,213.5 kms,” said Williams’ technical director, Sam Michael. “We spent the three days working on set-up and long runs; the main systems on the car are proving reliable and are cooling sufficiently. There are the inevitable minor teething problems to resolve between now and Jerez, but it's been good to get out on track and start work with our new engine partner, Cosworth.”

The teams will be back in action from 10 February as next week’s four-day session gets underway at the Spanish circuit of Jerez.

Unofficial Wednesday test times from Valencia:
1. Fernando Alonso, Ferrari, 1:11.470, 127 Laps
2. Pedro de la Rosa, BMW Sauber, 1:12.094, 80 Laps
3. Michael Schumacher, Mercedes GP, 1:12.438, 82 Laps
4. Jaime Alguersuari, Toro Rosso, 1:12.576, 97 Laps
5. Jenson Button, McLaren, 1:12.951, 82 Laps
6. Vitaly Petrov, Renault, 1:13.097, 75 Laps
7. Nico Hulkenberg, Williams, 1:13.669, 126 Laps

[pinkmichk]

is anyone a nascar fan? i discovered it last night and stayed up watching online nelson piquet jnr was driving one of the cars cos obviously his chances of driving in F1 again are pretty much nil not sure i understand all the nascar rules/race terms so if anyone could enlighten me? he drove marginally better in the nascar than F1
and i thought F1 crashes were bad some of the wreaks last night made massa crash look like a stroll in the park

[Iceman]

I used to when Setanta showed it......don't think they have the rights to it anymore.....i do like it though.....(Not as much as F1)

[pinkmichk]

i watched by the wonder of justin tv online but i think sky sports were gonna be doing a hour highlight today?
i really cant wait for the season to start (well seasons cos am gonna be trackside for rounds 2 and 3 touring car)

[Iceman]

Im just pumped for F1.....well Schumacher....

1 moth exactly!!!!!

[James]

I have watched NASCAR a little, but I prefer Indy car racing over there which is more like F1.

[Iceman]

Heard Adam Carooll is getting a drive for Campos Meta!!!

Also Ralf Schumacher signed for one of the stand in teams.....

[pinkmichk]

james dont say that i can only just about keep up with what i follow now :joker:
1 month excellent means first race falls on a weekend when i dont have daughter at home so can watch in peace :joker:

[Iceman]

hehe!!!

just checked it's Stefan GP that are signing Ralf.....

[James]

Carroll is good, yeah. He was in British F3 at the same time as Piquet Jr, incidentally, and was competitive with him in that championship, but didn't have the money of Piquet.

Paul di Resta has got a test/reserve drive at Force India. He's a Scottish guy who has been racing in German touring cars recently. Good driver, cousin of Dario Franchitti. McLaren wanted him to have a race-seat last season (at Force India).

[Iceman]

Yeah Carroll is the reigning A1 champion.....maybe the last ever A1 champion by the looks of things...

[Iceman]

LONDON – Formula One boss Bernie Ecclestone has told the Sunday Express newspaper that F1 regulations allow teams to miss up to three races without penalty and that, as a result, the Campos and USF1 teams are unlikely to make the grid for the season opener in Bahrain.

Eccleston told the newspaper that the two teams need time to find more secure funding.

Ecclestone was quoted as saying: "I think we won't see (the Spanish team) Campos and I don't think we will see the Americans."

He said that his terms allow any team to miss up to three races. This could lead to a patchwork starting grid, with some of F1's 13 teams coming and going, depending on whether they can afford to race.

If fewer than eight teams turn up for a race, the F1 Group may also have to pay hefty fines for breaching its contract with the governing body that grants it the commercial rights to the sport.

A team based in Serbia is ready to take the position of any that drop out and is planning to buy the assets of Toyota's moribund team. Ecclestone said.

"They have got the money from the Serbian government, I'vespoken to the prime minister."

Honda, BMW and Toyota have pulled out of the sport.

[Iceman]

Unofficial Wednesday times from Jerez:
1. Nico Rosberg, Mercedes GP, 1:20.927, 57 Laps
2. Sebastien Buemi, Toro Rosso, 1:21.031, 84 Laps
3. Nico Hulkenberg, Williams, 1:22.243, 118 Laps
4. Fernando Alonso, Ferrari, 1:22.895, 88 Laps
5. Kamui Kobayashi, BMW Sauber, 1:23.287, 55 Laps
6. Jenson Button, McLaren, 1:24.947, 68 Laps
7. Vitantonio Liuzzi, Force India, 1:24.968, 71 Laps
8. Vitaly Petrov, Renault, 1:25.440, 27 Laps
9. Mark Webber, Red Bull, 1:26.502, 50 Laps
10. Timo Glock, Virgin, 1:38.734, 5 Laps

[Iceman]

"I am very happy with how the day went today even if we could not finish our schedule completely due to several red flags. Still I managed to drive a lot of laps which is very precious to me. A new car, a new team, new conditions, so our first goal has to be to make the car reliable. Days like that one today help massively in that respect - especially as the weather forecast for the next days aren't quite so rosy. I feel very comfortable driving the car, it was good fun today."

from MSchumacher.com

[Iceman]

19 Days :bigsmile:

[Iceman]

"That was a conciliatory end of the testing days in Jerez, it was nice finally being able to drive in the dry for some more laps in a row. We are in our schedule but at the same time we are well aware there is still a lot of work ahead of us. Barcelona next week will be an important test in this respect for all of us and will give us more information about the performance of our car."

Michael Schumacher

[Iceman]

Teams & Drivers

Mclaren
Lewis Hamilton
Jenson Button

Mercedes
Michael Schumacher
Nico Rosberg

Red Bull
Sebastian Vettel
Mark Webber

Ferrari
Fernando Alonso
Felipe Massa

Williams
Rubens Barichello
Nico Hülkenberg

Renault
Robert Kubica
Vitaly Petrov

Force India
Adrian Sutil
Vitantanio Liuzzi

Torro Rosso
Sébastien Buemi
Jaime Alguersuari

Lotus
Jarno Trulli
Heikki Kovalainen

Hispania
Brunno Senna
Karun Chandhok

Virgin Racing
Timo Glock
Lucas Di Grassi

Sauber
Pedro De La Rosa
Kamui Kobayashi

Practice 1 @ 6.55 tomorrow morning.
Practice 2 @ 10.55 tomorrow morning.

[Wildcat!]

The reffueling thing I dont think is gonna benefit Michael Schumacher that much. As a matter of fact, I think it will be to the disadvantage of most Aggressive drivers like him. Schumacher likes to go real fast for as long as possible and brake hard at the last possible moment, thats why he is so good in drivers circuits like Monaco. And since the cars are gonna be a lot heavier, I think he will wear out his tires quicker than the less aggressive drivers. Just my theory of course, but we'll see if I am right.

[Iceman]

Campos Change Name to Hispania...USF1 drop out until 2011, Jacques villeneuve to race for new team Stefan Racing.

[pinkmichk]

very excited for new season

[Iceman]

all drivers now announced....stefan will not run :(

[Claymores]

Only time i've been to F1 was Spa - the stink of the tyres was amazing.........thought I'd hate it live as only see cars once a lap but it made me a fan

[Iceman]

Only time i've been to F1 was Spa - the stink of the tyres was amazing.........thought I'd hate it live as only see cars once a lap but it made me a fan

Would love to go to see a grand prix...my aim is the British or Italian grand prix in 2012.....schumachers last season....

[Claymores]

Would love to go to see a grand prix...my aim is the British or Italian grand prix in 2012.....schumachers last season....

British not so much.........it'd be full of english..............Italian GP sounds a dream come true

[Iceman]

British not so much.........it'd be full of english..............Italian GP sounds a dream come true

The dream GP used to be Monaco....now its abu dhabi...i'll get there some day!

[Claymores]

The dream GP used to be Monaco....now its abu dhabi...i'll get there some day!

Dream is still Monaco watching it from my Yacht!!!!!!!!!!! Roll on Euro Lottery!!!!!

[Iceman]

Dream is still Monaco watching it from my Yacht!!!!!!!!!!! Roll on Euro Lottery!!!!!

My thoughts exactly......although if we're to believe rumours there could ba a street race in Manhattan......that would be the ultimate dream.....

[Claymores]

You should go to any random GP - I was doubtful about it but went as my pals were keen and Spa was great weekend. Doubt they'll ever do Manhatten tho.

[Iceman]

You should go to any random GP - I was doubtful about it but went as my pals were keen and Spa was great weekend. Doubt they'll ever do Manhatten tho.

Yeah the cost to shut the city down for 5 days would be crazy!!! I think i will next year.....i defintaely have to see Schumacher drive before he retires......its a dream of mine...

[Claymores]

Yeah the cost to shut the city down for 5 days would be crazy!!! I think i will next year.....i defintaely have to see Schumacher drive before he retires......its a dream of mine...

It's a pity - a pal now works in Manhattan and we were all gonna sleep on the floor of his apartment!!!!! Cheap NYC anda GP!

[Claymores]

Think Barcelona Schooey! - great City and good race and not tooooooo expensive!

[Iceman]

It's a pity - a pal now works in Manhattan and we were all gonna sleep on the floor of his apartment!!!!! Cheap NYC anda GP!

That would have been sweet, I know people in turkey so i could go there...

[Claymores]

That would have been sweet, I know people in turkey so i could go there...

U can sleep on the floor of my yacht in Monaco if it doesn't have enough bedrooms as only won 25m Euros on the lottery! :hugesmile:

[pinkmichk]

i love watching motor racing track side would love to see the british 1 also the night races look fab and of course monaco would be epic they had the renault f1 car on track at the silverstone renault world series last year and we were in right place at right time cos were right by the car as it started up

[Iceman]

Will be doing a sweepstake for the F1 season soon enough.....keep an eye out for it....

[Iceman]

Right i think i have an addiction to these sweepstake things.....

First off a sweepstake is a random draw, completely random so you CANT choose who you want.

Ive decided to take only 12 applicants to make it fair so that someone doesnt get stuck with the likes of Sebastian Buemi or worse Jenson Button.....

Will do a Draw tomorrow!

(Last sweepstake I promise)


Standings After Race 1

Mark & Fernando Alonso - 30 Points
Ben & Felipe Massa - 22 Points
Andy & Sebastian Vettel - 20 Points
MissKitty & Lewis Hamilton - 16 Points
Nathan & Nico Rosberg - 12 Points
Eoin & Michael Schumacher - 10 Points
James & Jenson Button - 8 Points
Gemmer-X & Mark Webber - 6 Points
PinkmichK & Rubens Barrichello - 4 Points
Remy & Robert Kubica - 2 Points
TheBeast & Nico Hulkenburg - 0 Points
Jayson & Jarno Trulli - 0 Points
Andyman & Vital Petrov - 0 Points
Claymores & Kamui Kobayashi - 0 Points

Standings After Race 2

Mark & Fernando Alonso - 46 Points
Ben & Felipe Massa - 38 Points
Andy & Sebastian Vettel - 28 Points
James & Jenson Button - 28 Points
MissKitty & Lewis Hamilton - 26 Points
Nathan & Nico Rosberg - 24 Points
Gemmer-X & Mark Webber - 24 Points
Remy & Robert Kubica - 20 Points
Eoin & Michael Schumacher - 14 Points
PinkmichK & Rubens Barrichello - 12 Points
TheBeast & Nico Hulkenburg - 0 Points
Jayson & Jarno Trulli - 0 Points
Andyman & Vital Petrov - 0 Points
Claymores & Kamui Kobayashi - 0 Points

Standings After Race 3

Gemmer-X & Mark Webber - 56 Points
Andy & Sebastian Vettel - 50 Points
Mark & Fernando Alonso - 48 Points
Ben & Felipe Massa - 48 Points
Nathan & Nico Rosberg - 40 Points
MissKitty & Lewis Hamilton - 38 Points
James & Jenson Button - 36 Points
Remy & Robert Kubica - 34 Points
PinkmichK & Rubens Barrichello - 16 Points
Eoin & Michael Schumacher - 14 Points
TheBeast & Nico Hulkenburg - 6 Points
Jayson & Jarno Trulli - 0 Points
Andyman & Vital Petrov - 0 Points
Claymores & Kamui Kobayashi - 0 Points

Standings After Race 4

Gemmer-X & Mark Webber - 66 Points
Andy & Sebastian Vettel - 66 Points
Mark & Fernando Alonso - 64 Points
MissKitty & Lewis Hamilton - 64 Points
Nathan & Nico Rosberg - 56 Points
James & Jenson Button - 56 Points
Ben & Felipe Massa - 52 Points
Remy & Robert Kubica - 46 Points
PinkmichK & Rubens Barrichello - 16 Points
Eoin & Michael Schumacher - 16 Points
Andyman & Vital Petrov - 8 Points
TheBeast & Nico Hulkenburg - 6 Points
Jayson & Jarno Trulli - 0 Points
Claymores & Kamui Kobayashi - 0 Points

[pinkmichk]

i'm so in on this will pm you now

[Iceman]

Preview Quotes from Mercedes & Sauber. More to follow.

[Jayson]

Does this count as an app?

[Iceman]

Does this count as an app?

NO :joker::joker::joker:

[Beastie]

I will apply.

[Jayson]

:O

does this?

[Iceman]

:O

does this?

ill take your app.....everyone else needs to apply though!

[MissKittyFantastico]

Count me in please Eoin

[Iceman]

Can ya send me a PM Kitty???

Glad your back BTW! :)

[MissKittyFantastico]

Oh ffs, effort! :P

Thanks xx

[Iceman]

:P thanks!

[James]

I will have a go.

Don't get the point of having to send you a U2U though. :p

[Iceman]

I will have a go.

Don't get the point of having to send you a U2U though. :p

good point......i think it was becuase of the wwe one....i wanted to have a list of wrestlers people might want to have....right really good point....

[Mark]

In :)

[King Gizzard]

Egg!

[Iceman]

Egg!

egg yes or egg no?

[Iceman]

Right im going to stop this after my next applicant so everyone can have 2 drivers.....ill do a draw from 2 different driver pots so everyone gets a good driver and er a bad driver.............which pot to put button in????????

[MissKittyFantastico]

He'll have to go in the good driver pot I guess....although we both know he's ****e, but he's last years champion so.....

If I get him I'm gonna be so pissed lol

[King Gizzard]

http://www.wpclipart.com/sign_language/thumbs_up.png

[Iceman]

He'll have to go in the good driver pot I guess....although we both know he's ****e, but he's last years champion so.....

If I get him I'm gonna be so pissed lol

LOL I know.....

[James]

Doing it that way means you could have more possible slots in the game as there are 196 combinations of drivers from the 2 pots.

[Iceman]

Doing it that way means you could have more possible slots in the game as there are 196 combinations of drivers from the 2 pots.

what?? im confused I was going to do it like this....

pot 1.
Jenson
Lewis
Massa
Alonso
Schumi
Rosberg
Rubens
Vettel
Webber
Kubica.
Petrov
Hulkenburg

pot 2.
Kovalienen
Senna
Kobayashi
Chandhock
Buemi
Alguesari
Glock
Trulli
De la Rosa
Liuzzi
Sutil
di Grassi





what do you think????

[James]

What I mean is you could have one person with Jenson and Sutil and another with Jenson and di Grassi.

[Iceman]

Once the driver is drawn theyre out of the pot.....thats the way i was gonna do it....

[Iceman]

3 days until practice!!!!! cant ****ing wait

[pinkmichk]

i've just found out i will be at my dad and stepmums sunday hoping i can watch there cos dad is a fan too if not guess it'll be highlights show

[pinkmichk]

in theory cos he current champ button should be in good but reality lets be honest should be in bad :joker: i will also not be happy to get button

[Iceman]

HahaI know mich! will do the draw tonight...need to try and get webcam working....and find it...

[Iceman]

think its an 11.30 start or maybe 12....

[Captain.Remy]

Why would you need a webcam for ?

[Wildcat!]

Damn! I wanted to be on this!! :(

[Novo]

:(

[Iceman]

wildcat and novo are in........gonna just be one driver each...if i can get another few people...spread the word....

[pinkmichk]

oooh this means even less chance of personally getting button :joker:

[Iceman]

I want another 2 members if nt this will do and ill organise what drivers we'll be putting in the draw....

[Claymores]

Claymores is in shoeeee?

[Iceman]

yes bomb

[Claymores]

What is the list of the FM drivers Shoeeeee?

[Iceman]

17 hours until Practice 1!

[Iceman]

BUMP

This will close at 9 pm tonight and draw will be some time beteween 10 and 11 pm tonight.

[Claymores]

BUMP

This will close at 9 pm tonight and draw will be some time beteween 10 and 11 pm tonight.

If you get Schumacher there'll be a stewards' enquiry :joker:

Thanks for doing it

[Iceman]

If you get Schumacher there'll be a stewards' enquiry :joker:

Thanks for doing it

hmmm quiet you! haha

It will be random...i swear on my life.....

thers about 15 people taking part so will have to come up with a way of not putting a few drivers in...will figure it out later....

[Wildcat!]

Alright! I am in this then! Glad to hear it. I know nothing about this game, the rules or what have you, but its about F1 on Tibb, so cool! :D

Explain to me how the choosing and scoring works, and the general flow of the game, so that I know! :)

[Iceman]

Yikes didnt put the rules up, thanks for reminding me....

[Iceman]

Rules & Scoring

Firstly, NO trading of drivers is allowed.

Qualifying

If your driver Qualifies in First, Second or Third you will get points.

First = 6
Second = 4
Third = 2

Race Day

The top 10 drivers will get points.

First = 20
Second = 18
Third = 16
Fourth = 14
Fifth = 12
Sixth = 10
Seventh = 8
Eight = 6
Ninth = 4
Tenth = 2

If your driver has the fastest lap you will also get points.

Fastest lap = 8

Lastly if your driver manages to get Pole, Race Win & Fastest lap you will get a 10 point Bonus.

Hat-Trick = 10

any questions on this system or if i've left enything out let me know. :)

[Claymores]

hmmm quiet you! haha

It will be random...i swear on my life.....

thers about 15 people taking part so will have to come up with a way of not putting a few drivers in...will figure it out later....

If I get Button I'm gonna cry:hugesmile:

[Iceman]

If I get Button I'm gonna cry:hugesmile:

I think whoever gets button is gonna cry to be honest!

[Iceman]

New Rule

If a driver gets injured (like Massa did last year in Hungary) or is fired (like nelson Piquet Jnr did last year) I will allow that person to choose another driver who hasn't been picked.

[Claymores]

Does the winning FM get a trophy???????????? I could Paypal you a fiver if helps Shoeeeee

[Iceman]

Haha they may get an award will have to ask Mark or James.....not sure if they'll allow me to....

[pinkmichk]

my lappy is at risk of being launched if i get button

[Claymores]

U are getting button in your own draw pal - get tisses ready!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Smile!

[Iceman]

Well if i get him i get him....:(

[Claymores]

Well if i get him i get him....:(

If I get Shoeee will you spit on me?

[Claymores]

What time should we come here to see the draw?

[Iceman]

I'd say just after half ten ill do it....im busy and wont be back on until then.....should be done by 11......

[Claymores]

I'd say just after half ten ill do it....im busy and wont be back on until then.....should be done by 11......



UR a star - don't give me Button!

[Beastie]

Woo! When is the World Cup draw gona be done?

[Iceman]

Woo! When is the World Cup draw gona be done?

Loads of time for that yet, don't worry i haven't forgotten.......i just wanted to start it to drum up a bit of interest in it.......theres 5 places left in it so i'll wait for a month or so try and fill them.....

[Iceman]

Just watching LOST again draw will be done shortly :)

[Iceman]

I promis i'll do this after 11.....sorry about the delay! :)

[Claymores]

I promis i'll do this after 11.....sorry about the delay! :) rotten bugger!

[pinkmichk]

i've gotta go bed shortly damn school runs meaning early waking but hoping it been done before i go

[Iceman]

sorry soething came up and i had to sort it out.....will do it now in 5 mins....i swear!

[pinkmichk]

yay :)

[Iceman]

im doing it now 2 secs...needed to find a pen...why can ya never have a pen when ya want one....

[King Gizzard]

if i get lewis hamilton i will not be happy at all

[Wildcat!]

Schumi, youre trully an african at heart! Its in five minutes, means In ten years! Or monday morning! :D

[Iceman]

Draw Now

[Iceman]

Our first pairing is....

[Wildcat!]

if i get lewis hamilton i will not be happy at all

I want one of the younger up and comers sure enough! Always root for the underdong! :)

[Iceman]

Claymores & Kamui Kobayashi

[Iceman]

Our second pairing is...

[Iceman]

Andyman & Vitaly Petrov

[Iceman]

Our third pairing is...

[Iceman]

PinkMichK & Rubens Barichello

[Iceman]

Our fourth pairing is...

[Iceman]

Andy & Sebastian Vettel

[pinkmichk]

PinkMichK & Rubens Barichello

not too bad not too bad at all

[Iceman]

Our Fifth pairing is...

[Iceman]

MiskittyFantastico & Lewis Hamilton

[Iceman]

Our Sixth pairing is...

[30stone]

Miss kitty is lucky.

Hope i get button :)

[Iceman]

Schumacher & Schumacher

Right i dont think you lot will believe me but that was completely random.....i'll do it again if you like?

[pinkmichk]

Hope i get button :)

you must be only 1 happy if you get him :joker:

[pinkmichk]

Schumacher & Schumacher

Right i dont think you lot will believe me but that was completely random.....i'll do it again if you like?

i believe ya dont bother me if you have him

[Iceman]

I swear on my life that was random....i actually laughed when i picked it out....

[Iceman]

moving along.....

[Iceman]

our seventh pairing is...

[King Gizzard]

i want vettel

[Iceman]

Wildcat & Heikki Kovaleinen

[Iceman]

our Eighth pairing is...

[30stone]

I believe you.

Hes an old man :) he wont win
LOL

[Iceman]

James & Jenson Button

[Iceman]

Our ninth pairing is...

[Iceman]

Jayson & Jarno Trulli

[Iceman]

Our Tenth pairing is...

[Iceman]

Captain Remy & Robert Kubica

[Iceman]

our eleventh pairing is...

[Iceman]

Ben & Felipe Massa